Le Tissier Bails Out Of Twitter

[brmbrm]

On 07/08/2020 at 20:38, aintforever said:

Who gies a sh!t about his opinion on vaccines?

Because other (thick? gullible? deluded?) people read his posts and think vaccines are all a hoax/control-thing/autism-causer or whatever.  So kids get mumps, measles, rubella, polio, flu, covid (when/if there is a vaccine).  It does cause harm.

[aintforever]

42 minutes ago, brmbrm said:

Because other (thick? gullible? deluded?) people read his posts and think vaccines are all a hoax/control-thing/autism-causer or whatever.  So kids get mumps, measles, rubella, polio, flu, covid (when/if there is a vaccine).  It does cause harm.

Do you actually know anyone who makes medical decisions based on what ex pro footballers say or are you just making it up?

[Lighthouse]

25 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Do you actually know anyone who makes medical decisions based on what ex pro footballers say or are you just making it up?

I know plenty of people who make important decisions based on misinformation, simply to conform to the herd mentality.

[Fan The Flames]

3 hours ago, brmbrm said:

Because other (thick? gullible? deluded?) people read his posts and think vaccines are all a hoax/control-thing/autism-causer or whatever.  So kids get mumps, measles, rubella, polio, flu, covid (when/if there is a vaccine).  It does cause harm.

The women who were prescribed thalidomide in the 50's but didn't take it for fear of what it might do to there unborn babies, were they thick and deluded. I haven't read MLT posts but putting the conspiracy nonsense to one side, isn't one of the core points that there is a risk in taking a rushed vaccine, which maybe is a greater risk than covid poses to some people. I have some sympathy with that point of view, I will gather as much information as possible before I make a decision and I know that there won't be any ex-footballers on my research list.

[Fan The Flames]

2 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

I know plenty of people who make important decisions based on misinformation, simply to conform to the herd mentality.

Who is conforming to the herd on the mask debate, those wearing them or those not or both, I can't work it out. 

[Lighthouse]

8 minutes ago, Fan The Flames said:

Who is conforming to the herd on the mask debate, those wearing them or those not or both, I can't work it out. 

There are two herds, that’s the problem. Everyone should be wearing masks in shops and other public areas but people like Trump and friends have created a division where there shouldn’t be one.

[Toussaint]

On 06/08/2020 at 14:33, SaintsLoyal said:

Looks like crackpot le tissier has finally realised hes humiliated himself and embarrassed our city with his conspiracy theory garbage. Many Saints fans have either stopped following him or muted the misinformation hes been forwarding about covid 19. Its been very painful for us Saints fans, who viewed him as a hero and now frankly hes become a total joke. Le Tissier is so naive and seemingly cant stop his thoughts and keep them to himself.  In the past ive stood up for Matt, when he was getting grief for his Cortese comments. But now i cant defend him in anyway as repeated requests from many fans towards him have been totally ignored. I dont know, if he will get sacked from Sky Sports, im sure they will have looked at what hes been saying and heard the complaints. 

Just wanted to add that its laughable hes playing the victim card with all the dangerous misinformation hes been forwarding to thousands of people.

 

Go away you detestable little fifth columnist 

[Nolan]

4 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

There are two herds, that’s the problem. Everyone should be wearing masks in shops and other public areas but people like Trump and friends have created a division where there shouldn’t be one.

In Wales where mask wearing isn't mandatory, infections are down. In England it is mandatory and infections are up.

 

The Dutch also say wearing a mask has more negative effects then positive.

Edited 8 August, 2020 by Nolan

[egg]

19 minutes ago, Nolan said:

In Wales where mask wearing isn't mandatory, infections are down. In England it is mandatory and infections are up.

 

The Dutch also say wearing a mask has more negative effects then positive.

In my experience, social distancing on shops etc is all but non existent now people are masked up. When masks weren't being worn, people were more cautious. How much difference that all makes, I don't know, but if people become used to being casual in one environment, perhaps they are more casual when not mask wearing. 

[Lighthouse]

Wearing a mask can’t not help spread the disease. If people are becoming complacent, packing beaches, places of worship, pubs and not bothering with social distancing, that’s a separate issue.

[Nolan]

51 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Wearing a mask can’t not help spread the disease. If people are becoming complacent, packing beaches, places of worship, pubs and not bothering with social distancing, that’s a separate issue.

Wearing a mask CAN help spread the disease. When you next wander round a shop, watch how many people are touching a fiddling with their masks. which completely destroys the "dont touch you face" part of the original rules.

and that's if people are wearing masks correctly.

[Lord Duckhunter]

53 minutes ago, Nolan said:

Wearing a mask CAN help spread the disease. When you next wander round a shop, watch how many people are touching a fiddling with their masks. which completely destroys the "dont touch you face" part of the original rules.

and that's if people are wearing masks correctly.

Exactly. My snap dragon was given pages and pages of instructions for wearing of masks in her hospital. From not touching your face, to disposing of it correctly. None of this is followed by the public. You should see the state of some of the face coverings I’ve seen this week, dirty and  in and out of pockets, handbags etc, and reused over and over. I even saw one plank pull it down to have a fag outside the co op, before pulling it back over his face. Completely pointless nannying from the Government. 

Edited 8 August, 2020 by Lord Duckhunter

[Lighthouse]

1 hour ago, Nolan said:

Wearing a mask CAN help spread the disease. When you next wander round a shop, watch how many people are touching a fiddling with their masks. which completely destroys the "dont touch you face" part of the original rules.

and that's if people are wearing masks correctly.

 

31 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Exactly. My snap dragon was given pages and pages of instructions for wearing of masks in her hospital. From not touching your face, to disposing of it correctly. None of this is followed by the public. You should see the state of some of the face coverings I’ve seen this week, dirty and  in and out of pockets, handbags etc, and reused over and over. I even saw one plank pull it down to have a fag outside the co op, before pulling it back over his face. Completely pointless nannying from the Government. 

Both of those arguments centre around not using masks correctly, which is completely different to masks not working. I never knew it was so complicated to put a surgical mask on but apparently a lot of people are struggling with the concept. Put the mask on, cover your nose and month, don’t fiddle with it, clean your hands with alcohol gels whenever you see them in shops.

 

Even if your a complete fruitcake and you take the mask off every five minutes, wipe your hands on the inside, then wipe them on everything you can see in the shop, you’re still trapping more microbes than you would by simply breathing them out across the room, unrestricted.

 

If they’re good enough for surgeons performing open heart surgery, they’ll do for me.

[aintforever]

2 hours ago, Nolan said:

Wearing a mask CAN help spread the disease. When you next wander round a shop, watch how many people are touching a fiddling with their masks. which completely destroys the "dont touch you face" part of the original rules.

and that's if people are wearing masks correctly.

The don’t touch your face advice is so you don’t get the virus in your nose, mouth or eyes, touching the skin on your face would not be a problem. You could fiddle with your mask all day long and not touch your mouth, nose or eyes.

When you wear a face mask (even a poorly fitted shit one) you can’t bite your nails, pick your nose or touch your lips. The fact that Korea and Japan, where mask wearing is the norm, have faired so well makes it the obvious thing to do.

Edited 8 August, 2020 by aintforever

[Lord Duckhunter]

51 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

 

 

If they’re good enough for surgeons performing open heart surgery, they’ll do for me.

This is just a complete pony argument. 

[Simon3737]

This video convinces me that masks work....

 

[Nolan]

8 hours ago, aintforever said:

The don’t touch your face advice is so you don’t get the virus in your nose, mouth or eyes, touching the skin on your face would not be a problem. You could fiddle with your mask all day long and not touch your mouth, nose or eyes.

When you wear a face mask (even a poorly fitted shit one) you can’t bite your nails, pick your nose or touch your lips. The fact that Korea and Japan, where mask wearing is the norm, have faired so well makes it the obvious thing to do.

The fact that Korea and Japan have done so well is more to do with:

1. They went through this with SARS over a decade ago and had everything in place.

2. In the case of South Korea, their residents have less freedoms than us so track and trace has no privacy concerns.

 

[aintforever]

2 hours ago, Nolan said:

The fact that Korea and Japan have done so well is more to do with:

1. They went through this with SARS over a decade ago and had everything in place.

2. In the case of South Korea, their residents have less freedoms than us so track and trace has no privacy concerns.

 

The fact that they went through a similar thing with Sars probably means they know what they are doing with regards to face masks don’t you think?

if fiddling with face masks cases it to spread how come their cases are so low?

[East Kent Saint]

As with all things Cov 19 there is no absolute proof of what is the best solution but NZ has shown that test , track and isolate helps to stop the spread . The few cases they did have after the initial success seemed to be from visitors who came to see relatives but broke the quarantine rules.

Here the lack of sticking to the rules is causing outbreaks , such as weddings and overcrowded pubs etc.

[whelk]

How is this Saints related?

[Nolan]

50 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said:

As with all things Cov 19 there is no absolute proof of what is the best solution but NZ has shown that test , track and isolate helps to stop the spread . The few cases they did have after the initial success seemed to be from visitors who came to see relatives but broke the quarantine rules.

Here the lack of sticking to the rules is causing outbreaks , such as weddings and overcrowded pubs etc.

What also helped with new Zealand is that it isn't a transition country. You only go there on purpose not of you're passing through

 

1 hour ago, aintforever said:

The fact that they went through a similar thing with Sars probably means they know what they are doing with regards to face masks don’t you think?

if fiddling with face masks cases it to spread how come their cases are so low?

I don't know, I'm not a scientist. But I do know that as many scientists say they aren't safe as those that day there are.

And I know from experience that a lot of people needn't bother wearing a mask, seeing as what they do when they wear the mask.

[Lord Duckhunter]

2 hours ago, aintforever said:

 

if fiddling with face masks cases it to spread how come their cases are so low?

If face masks can be fiddled with without causing an issue, why do NHS staff receive training which specifically says touching them is a risk to themselves, patients and the spread of the disease. Why are they told not to reuse them, but to throw them away each and every time they have to touch them. Why are they also given comprehensive instructions of how to dispose of them safely? 

Edited 9 August, 2020 by Lord Duckhunter

[Lighthouse]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

How is this Saints related?

I agree, this seems to have drifted off topic (for which I’m partly culpable). If anyone wants to continue discussing COVID-19 countermeasures:

https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/topic/57941-coronavirus/