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woodsaint1

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  On 19/04/2021 at 19:58, nta786 said:

This lot are losing 7-1 away to Leicester’s U23.

The rot is setting in top to bottom.

These results wouldn’t be such a problem if they were providing us players for the first team but none of them are good enough or have been frozen out.

Part of me would love to bulk up the squad and let the likes of Diallo, Salisu, Tella, Valery (though on loan) play more and get some minutes in that league- maybe even taste what winning feels like before promoting to the first team but with our thin squad we can’t do that.

For reference; this Leicester U23 are also near the bottom ffs

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Why would we play Diallo and Salisu in the under 23s when they played regularly for decent sides in Ligue 1 and La Liga? Tella has proven hes good enough to be in the first team squad and Valery....well hes just s***. 

Need a complete overhaul of the academy coaching set up. Matt Crocker has his work cut out

davefizzy14

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Hopefully Matt Crocker is working on changes to the set up at B Team and under 18 Level as the results have not been good for sometime now.

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SuperSAINT

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B Team results this year:

- West Ham 3-1 Saints

- Saints 1-1 Tottenham

- Saints 1-0 Derby

- Saints 1-2 Man Utd

- Saints 2-2 Arsenal

- Blackburn 5-1 Saints

- Man City 7-1 Saints

- Saints 1-2 Liverpool

- Brighton 3-0 Saints

- Chelsea 3-1 Saints

- Leicester 7-1 Saints

obelisk

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Thank goodness for the women. The rest of the club seems to be easy meat right across all levels. These heavy defeats indicates there are widespread problems. Is anyone doing anything about it?

davefizzy14

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It saying on the match report at the bottom that Paul Hardyman is the under 18s coach. I know someone on here had said he had departed. Louis Carey is the under 16s coach.

SuperSAINT

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  On 27/04/2021 at 15:53, davefizzy14 said:

It saying on the match report at the bottom that Paul Hardyman is the under 18s coach. I know someone on here had said he had departed. Louis Carey is the under 16s coach.

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I was told Hardyman left in January.

SuperSAINT

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  On 27/04/2021 at 15:57, davefizzy14 said:

Ok, just it says on the bottom of the match report on Google that he was the coach for todays game.

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Yeah I saw that too.  I suppose they are just assuming because the news hasn’t been reported anywhere. 

The Cat

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Spoke to my son's friend who plays for U15's and U16's this morning. He said their age groups are strong, the 16's are pretty decent but have spent a lot of time playing in the U18's this season which has meant some kids are being pushed around different years below to cover them. Despite that results have been alright below the U18's. 

He said to watch out for midfielder Kami Doyle, he's 15 but has been playing some games for the U18's and scored in a 3-2 defeat against West Ham yesterday. Apparently he's incredible and already has some sort of pro contract.

 

SuperSAINT

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  On 02/05/2021 at 12:41, The Cat said:

Spoke to my son's friend who plays for U15's and U16's this morning. He said their age groups are strong, the 16's are pretty decent but have spent a lot of time playing in the U18's this season which has meant some kids are being pushed around different years below to cover them. Despite that results have been alright below the U18's. 

He said to watch out for midfielder Kami Doyle, he's 15 but has been playing some games for the U18's and scored in a 3-2 defeat against West Ham yesterday. Apparently he's incredible and already has some sort of pro contract.

 

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Cheers for posting.  Good to know.

The Cat

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  On 02/05/2021 at 12:44, SuperSAINT said:

Cheers for posting.  Good to know.

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No problem. Pity I couldn't ask him more. He came to watch my son play but he dislocated his finger in the second half and I had to take him to the walk in center!

SuperSAINT

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  On 02/05/2021 at 17:03, JRM said:

Not again FFS. Are we relegated yet? 

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Must be now.
-750 goal difference. 
 

10 men wouldn’t have helped, but the side was strong today and they got absolutely battered.

You’d expect better from a side with Ferry / Jankewitz / Tella / Olaigbe / N’Lundulu / Obafemi all playing.

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saint1977

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Strong enough line up even with the obligatory red card to not have been demolished like that again. Clearly the belated fight and grit from the first team on Friday night didn’t inspire them at all. Another bunch of lightweight tarts. Training needs to be more of a blend of technical, physical and organisation to toughen the pathetic little flowers up right across all of the club’s teams. 

JRM

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Definitely finishing rock bottom, should relegate them to the Tyro league to be able to compete. 

 

 

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  On 02/05/2021 at 18:59, Over land and sea said:

Saints record for 2021 if you combine the league games of the first team, B team and U18s is something like

P40  W4   D5   L31    F40   A 121    Pts 17

Woeful.

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Blimey that's horrific but not surprising, they should stick that on the wall at Staplewood to shame the players and staff. 

Daft Kerplunk

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  On 02/05/2021 at 12:41, The Cat said:

Spoke to my son's friend who plays for U15's and U16's this morning. He said their age groups are strong, the 16's are pretty decent but have spent a lot of time playing in the U18's this season which has meant some kids are being pushed around different years below to cover them. Despite that results have been alright below the U18's. 

He said to watch out for midfielder Kami Doyle, he's 15 but has been playing some games for the U18's and scored in a 3-2 defeat against West Ham yesterday. Apparently he's incredible and already has some sort of pro contract.

 

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Will Kami sign for Saints though? He can’t have a pro contract yet. Word is that other better clubs are looking at signing him/talking to his people already 

SuperSAINT

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  On 02/05/2021 at 19:57, Daft Kerplunk said:

Will Kami sign for Saints though? He can’t have a pro contract yet. Word is that other better clubs are looking at signing him/talking to his people already 

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This is going to happen now.  The big guns are going to hoover the best talent up (even more so than they already do) due to the brexit stuff.

Matthew Le God

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  On 02/05/2021 at 20:15, SuperSAINT said:

This is going to happen now.  The big guns are going to hoover the best talent up (even more so than they already do) due to the brexit stuff.

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We do similar to Football League clubs. Quite a few in our system have been signed from EFL clubs.

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SuperSAINT

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  On 02/05/2021 at 20:21, Matthew Le God said:

We do similar to Football League clubs. Quite a few in our system have been signed from EFL clubs.

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Thanks, MLG.  I know that.  The new Brexit rules will mean the big boys will look at more domestic based players to stockpile.

I think the market for 14-15 year olds will be incredibly competitive now.

daldridge7

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Watching it on Everton’s YouTube and their commentators said our team is easily the worst they’ve seen all season. I understand that a lot of B team regulars will be filling the bench tomorrow but they have been awful. The teams we have been putting out at u18 and B team recently have been embarrassing and must also just kill any confidence they have/had. 

S-Clarke

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Based on the fans forum yesterday, there is genuine recognition from Martin, Crocker, Ralph etc in terms of the awful results. Matt Crocker was quite scathing in some comments. ''Recruitment hasn't been good enough''  ''Some players simply won't make it''.

Some fair reasons provided in terms of players being pumped into the U18's before they were ready, all came down to lack of depth again (at all levels). But yeah, Matt Crocker didn't seem too impressed with the state of the academy when he came in.

SuperSAINT

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  On 07/05/2021 at 19:59, S-Clarke said:

Based on the fans forum yesterday, there is genuine recognition from Martin, Crocker, Ralph etc in terms of the awful results. Matt Crocker was quite scathing in some comments. ''Recruitment hasn't been good enough''  ''Some players simply won't make it''.

Some fair reasons provided in terms of players being pumped into the U18's before they were ready, all came down to lack of depth again (at all levels). But yeah, Matt Crocker didn't seem too impressed with the state of the academy when he came in.

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I wonder what he thinks of the coaching...

S-Clarke

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  On 07/05/2021 at 20:06, SuperSAINT said:

I wonder what he thinks of the coaching...

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There were a couple of things he mentioned which stood out...

'Attitudes and desire all wrong''

''Players not been made to work hard enough, they are just given the opportunity''.

''Players not good enough - being put in out of necessity''

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SuperSAINT

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  On 07/05/2021 at 20:09, S-Clarke said:

There were a couple of things he mentioned which stood out...

'Attitudes and desire all wrong''

''Players not been made to work hard enough, they are just given the opportunity''.

''Players not good enough - being put in out of necessity''

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The beauty is, where he's worked at the FA.  He will know if the coaches are good enough.

Baird of the land

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  On 07/05/2021 at 20:09, S-Clarke said:

There were a couple of things he mentioned which stood out...

'Attitudes and desire all wrong''

''Players not been made to work hard enough, they are just given the opportunity''.

''Players not good enough - being put in out of necessity''

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That's extremely damning.

As someone who's very passionate about Saints giving youngsters opportunities i really hope they can get things back on the right tracks quickly.

Dusic

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U18s back from 3-1 down to win 6-4.

Kami Doyle scoring twice to get Saints back in the game.

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