East Kent Saint Posted 14 September, 2020 Share Posted 14 September, 2020 Ipad hanging / error . Win10 straight in tonight although short hang in the day . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 15 September, 2020 Share Posted 15 September, 2020 CloudFront attempted to establish a connection with the origin, but either the attempt failed or the origin closed the connection. We can't connect to the server for this app or website at this time. There might be too much traffic or a configuration error. Try again later, or contact the app or website owner. If you provide content to customers through CloudFront, you can find steps to troubleshoot and help prevent this error by reviewing the CloudFront documentation. Todays effort via Firefox . Wait a while then seems to connect OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 September, 2020 Share Posted 15 September, 2020 (edited) After a few days of being quite good it's gone back to how it was, probably get on 50% of the time and get the error message the rest of the time. THis has been ongoing for 49 days now so i make that 67p i've wasted on this place. Edited 15 September, 2020 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 15 September, 2020 Share Posted 15 September, 2020 Slow today (when I can get on). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 15 September, 2020 Share Posted 15 September, 2020 Taken me all day to get on this thread to complain it’s slowed right down again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 15 September, 2020 Share Posted 15 September, 2020 Can’t we go back to the old message board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 16 September, 2020 Share Posted 16 September, 2020 Ok today so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 16 September, 2020 Share Posted 16 September, 2020 I can never load "The Saints" thread listing, always get a CloudFront error. The only way I can view threads is to click (from the homepage) the link to whatever the most recent post is and jump from thread to thread from there. Given that this is the user experience I am amazed people are bothering to post here at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 16 September, 2020 Share Posted 16 September, 2020 Was mostly a waste of time trying to get on here during game time for me. But then it was a waste of time paying any attention to the game. So, meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 17 September, 2020 Share Posted 17 September, 2020 15 hours ago, Saint_Jonny said: I can never load "The Saints" thread listing, always get a CloudFront error. The only way I can view threads is to click (from the homepage) the link to whatever the most recent post is and jump from thread to thread from there. Given that this is the user experience I am amazed people are bothering to post here at all. That’s how I get in but how do you jump from thread to thread? i can only read whatever the last post was made like you. Thats not good is it on trying to get on our message board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 19 September, 2020 Share Posted 19 September, 2020 Thought Steve may have cracked it but been really bad again the last few days. Don't know which is more annoying, not being able to get on at all, or getting on but finding no new posts to read since last time you managed to as nobody else has been able to get on either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 19 September, 2020 Share Posted 19 September, 2020 Cannot get in at all using the mobile, oddly, on the laptop it is really fast if I sign out but slow if I sign in which makes posting a bit of a lottery. I'm hanging on in there in the hope that the problems get fixed but slowly giving up hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 19 September, 2020 Share Posted 19 September, 2020 Very poor again recently Give up many a time which is a shame as this has been a decent site over the years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 20 September, 2020 Share Posted 20 September, 2020 I know every involved with the tech side of the site works hard and possibly volentary too but it really has become bad just says bad gateway half time and had been like this for some months now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 21 September, 2020 Share Posted 21 September, 2020 It is definitely getting progressively worse. It's fortunate for SaintsWeb that there is practically no competition, as putting this much effort into accessing a website would ordinarily lead to people giving up and going elsewhere. That said, the SaintsFC Reddit sub has been a pretty good alternative of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 22 September, 2020 Share Posted 22 September, 2020 Working well today ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 22 September, 2020 Share Posted 22 September, 2020 The fucking Lounge is actually working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 23 September, 2020 Share Posted 23 September, 2020 Hope I don't jinx it but whatever change was made yesterday seems to have fixed it - no issues at all right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 23 September, 2020 Share Posted 23 September, 2020 Same here, smooth as silk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 23 September, 2020 Share Posted 23 September, 2020 5 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said: Hope I don't jinx it but whatever change was made yesterday seems to have fixed it - no issues at all right now! Whisper it quietly, but I've done nothing to the setup for the last few weeks - it's just a weird fluctuation that I can't really explain. There's nothing that seems to actually cause the bad spells, it's not a spike in traffic or anything like that, there's no specific user action that I can see that's taking place, etc. Summary: dunno. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 23 September, 2020 Share Posted 23 September, 2020 From my part access has been back to normal for past couple of days Fingers crossed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 23 September, 2020 Share Posted 23 September, 2020 3 hours ago, stevegrant said: Whisper it quietly, but I've done nothing to the setup for the last few weeks - it's just a weird fluctuation that I can't really explain. There's nothing that seems to actually cause the bad spells, it's not a spike in traffic or anything like that, there's no specific user action that I can see that's taking place, etc. Summary: dunno. Carry on doing nothing please - it's going brilliantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 23 September, 2020 Share Posted 23 September, 2020 Absolutely flying yesterday and today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 24 September, 2020 Share Posted 24 September, 2020 finally finished indexing has it? Good performance or not, transient problems are a worry because they are likely to return. I haven't been able to get onto any of the match threads during a game due to the timeouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 24 September, 2020 Share Posted 24 September, 2020 1 hour ago, Plastic said: finally finished indexing has it? I think that took about 10 days, which is fairly ridiculous 1 hour ago, Plastic said: Good performance or not, transient problems are a worry because they are likely to return. I haven't been able to get onto any of the match threads during a game due to the timeouts. Yeah, I'm under no illusions here - it's entirely possible that the problems we've had will return just as quickly as they've vanished. I'm around 95% certain that the core problem is the database schema and how everything fits together, because the database uses the InnoDB engine but doesn't utilise some of the things InnoDB is especially good at (e.g. foreign keys linking tables together, etc), which makes the database quite inefficient. I suspect there are more writes/updates to the database on every post than should be necessary because of that inefficiency, which then causes a logjam and it spirals out of control. When I put the issue(s) to the Invision developers, they suggested ramping up the memory being allocated to the database, which frankly is a bullshit suggestion. A relatively simple forum structure shouldn't need multiple GBs of RAM being thrown at it in order to simply function at the most basic level. Basically they've engineered it badly and the "best" way to fix it from their perspective is to make the database so powerful that the inefficiencies aren't exposed, because otherwise they might have to admit they've fucked up somewhere along the line. There's been a new version (4.5) available as of around 4 weeks or so ago, but they're also onto incremental version 4.5.3 already, so there's clearly still a load of issues which I'm going to wait for them to resolve before we upgrade here - frankly, I've no idea how long the upgrade process might take. Knowing how long it took to convert from the old software, and how long that re-indexing process takes, it could be a matter of days... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 24 September, 2020 Share Posted 24 September, 2020 Steve, No idea what you are saying but logging on today has been simples!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 24 September, 2020 Share Posted 24 September, 2020 In Heaven today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 26 September, 2020 Share Posted 26 September, 2020 All seems good now but maybe a number of posters have given up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 26 September, 2020 Share Posted 26 September, 2020 On 24/09/2020 at 16:04, rooney said: In Heaven today I didn't know you could post from there What's the weather like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 27 September, 2020 Share Posted 27 September, 2020 Been good for days now. Is it just me though who can't find a search function anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 27 September, 2020 Share Posted 27 September, 2020 37 minutes ago, Manuel said: Been good for days now. Is it just me though who can't find a search function anywhere? I turned it off as I suspect that might have been having a negative impact on the database (bearing in mind that we have more than 2.6 million posts on here from as far back as 2008) - will have a play around with it over the next couple of weeks to see how much it actually gets used. It might be that it gets limited to subscribed users or something along those lines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 27 September, 2020 Share Posted 27 September, 2020 (edited) Ah, no worries. 👍 Edited 27 September, 2020 by Manuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manzo Posted 2 October, 2020 Share Posted 2 October, 2020 On 24/09/2020 at 12:47, stevegrant said: I'm around 95% certain that the core problem is the database schema and how everything fits together, because the database uses the InnoDB engine but doesn't utilise some of the things InnoDB is especially good at (e.g. foreign keys linking tables together, etc), which makes the database quite inefficient. Dev 1: "What are relational databases good at then?" Dev 2: "Er, relational data?" Dev 3: "Shall we set up the relations in the database then?" Dev 1: "Nah, f*ck it, can't be arsed." And by dev, I mean cowboy... 😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 2 October, 2020 Share Posted 2 October, 2020 Getting on has been so easy lately I forgot there were even issues not so long ago. Reckon you’ve cracked it Steve or are you still looking for the root cause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 3 October, 2020 Share Posted 3 October, 2020 15 hours ago, bpsaint said: Reckon you’ve cracked it Steve or are you still looking for the root cause? I'm not actively looking, I've not really got time at the moment anyway, but while it seems stable it seems silly to potentially poke the bear I do wonder whether that post re-indexing process might have helped, but it doesn't appear to be an exact science, frustratingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 3 October, 2020 Share Posted 3 October, 2020 31 minutes ago, stevegrant said: I'm not actively looking, I've not really got time at the moment anyway, but while it seems stable it seems silly to potentially poke the bear I do wonder whether that post re-indexing process might have helped, but it doesn't appear to be an exact science, frustratingly. Is it tempting fate to suggest it's time to lock this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 3 October, 2020 Share Posted 3 October, 2020 6 hours ago, Wurzel said: Is it tempting fate to suggest it's time to lock this thread? Not before I thank Steve for his hard work and perseverance while under fire from some very impatient numpties. P.S. a bit embarrassing this, but I won't be handing over my fiver until the site accepts PayPal. Its just the way I prefer to do some things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's There Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Yes,cheers Steve,for this forum and for your contribution on the TotalSainnts podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 October, 2020 Share Posted 6 October, 2020 Going so well and then I'm getting errors in the lounge again sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 6 October, 2020 Share Posted 6 October, 2020 4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Going so well and then I'm getting errors in the lounge again sadly. It’s probably for the best, given the latest topic in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 6 October, 2020 Share Posted 6 October, 2020 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Going so well and then I'm getting errors in the lounge again sadly. Me too. I feel for Steve and his colleagues. They must be tearing their hair out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted 7 October, 2020 Share Posted 7 October, 2020 Playing up today. Slow at times and had my first 502 for some weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 7 October, 2020 Share Posted 7 October, 2020 1 hour ago, M271 said: Playing up today. Slow at times and had my first 502 for some weeks. Ditto ☹️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 7 October, 2020 Share Posted 7 October, 2020 Yip its had a mare the last hour or so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 7 October, 2020 Share Posted 7 October, 2020 Yep. It’s not been too great today. Home page not too bad, lounge almost inaccessible but a search for unread posts is the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 7 October, 2020 Share Posted 7 October, 2020 yep, glitchy today again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 7 October, 2020 Share Posted 7 October, 2020 The return of the bad gateway. Hopefully temporary but a shame for this to return after a few virus free weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted 7 October, 2020 Share Posted 7 October, 2020 On 03/10/2020 at 13:44, Wurzel said: Is it tempting fate to suggest it's time to lock this thread? Yes it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 You may have noticed there's been a few changes - I've run the upgrade to the latest version. Frustratingly, it seems as though it's knocked out a few settings, particularly with the colour scheme, so I'll be gradually working on bits and pieces when I spot them. If there are any major bugs, please let me know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 a bit slow getting on today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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