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  On 24/07/2020 at 13:09, Saint_clark said:

Sounds to me like Forster, Sims and possibly Elyounoussi will be given chances to impress next season and the rest are being pushed to other clubs.

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Elyounoussi definitely won’t, he’s already signed for Celtic for another season. 

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S-Clarke

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  On 24/07/2020 at 13:09, Saint_clark said:

Sounds to me like Forster, Sims and possibly Elyounoussi will be given chances to impress next season and the rest are being pushed to other clubs.

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Sims? I've not been following him in the MLS tbh, has he done well?

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  On 24/07/2020 at 13:57, S-Clarke said:

Sims? I've not been following him in the MLS tbh, has he done well?

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Not really set the MLS alight. 9 games, 1 goal. Hasn’t featured in the MLS is back tournament because his loan contract ended on June 30th.

SNSUN

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  On 24/07/2020 at 13:09, Saint_clark said:

Sounds to me like Forster, Sims and possibly Elyounoussi will be given chances to impress next season and the rest are being pushed to other clubs.

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My initial thoughts for loanees that did well were Reed and Forster. (Jones at Gillingham did well at DM but that’s probably closer to his level.) Lemina did OK from what I gather at Galatasaray but I can’t see him in our colours again. Sims could be a cheapo 4th choice if Boufal leaves but I’d worry about strength in depth if that were the case.

 

I’m glad it’s this summer that we aren’t fannying around looking for a manager as the turnaround is so tight, and early signings will make it even better. For once we are in a good position going into a summer break. (What there is of it!) Hopefully it also will help us take our good form into the new season and, as we were nice and fit coming back from the COVID shutdown, the same should apply in September.

VectisSaint

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  On 24/07/2020 at 13:09, Saint_clark said:

Sounds to me like Forster, Sims and possibly Elyounoussi will be given chances to impress next season and the rest are being pushed to other clubs.

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Really, I took that to mean people like Harrison Reed who have impressed while on loan. Obviously Forster has impressed, but can't really say the same about the others you listed or any of the other for that matter.

S-Clarke

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  On 24/07/2020 at 15:50, OttawaSaint said:

Not really set the MLS alight. 9 games, 1 goal. Hasn’t featured in the MLS is back tournament because his loan contract ended on June 30th.

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Fair enough, pretty much confirms he's never going to make it here then.

Got shot in the summer! Not sure why people keep calling for him.

Badger

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  On 24/07/2020 at 13:06, Harry_SFC said:

The main points from the press conference..

- RH unmoved on Salisu talk although he expects signings and wants to get these done early.

 

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Haven't we been here before ?

Badger

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  On 24/07/2020 at 16:40, S-Clarke said:

Given that we seemingly almost have two new players through the door, then it's a positive start.

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Been following Saints too long to get excited over possible signings. We almost had Toby signed up to stay at one point...

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  On 24/07/2020 at 12:32, Saint Mikey said:

The whole make-up of football income was completely different then. All gate receipts (which was the majority of income for all clubs then) was shared 50% - home and away. That's why we could compete with the likes of Utd/Liverpool/Everton/Arsenal in the 80s. It's why clubs like Derby, Forest, Villa won the league and clubs like us and Watford, Ipswich came second. If you could do some decent scouting and management - you could have a good crack at the league.

That changed in the late 80s and when the bigger clubs really started to absolutely dominate. Then came the PL income, Champions League and some clubs generating huge amounts from an overseas fan base - which put them on an untouchable level.

You just cannot compare the two - so many things have changed.

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Nice to have at least stimulated an interesting debate even if I was wrong in my asserrions. I have learnt some interesting facts from the posts - so thanks fellow saints fans. The 'coma' crack was quite witty too

CanadaSaint

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Is Lemina's bridge to Ralph definitely burnt? On his day he can be a thoroughbred, and perhaps just the kind of player we need - especially as it wouldn't involve a transfer fee, but he needs to do it every week, and his piss poor attitude is a big stumbling block.

I'd fancy Ralph's chances at rehabilitating him, but I'm not sure he's worth the risk when Ralph has done such a great job building spirit and cohesiveness in the squad. Pity, really.

Shroppie

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  On 25/07/2020 at 05:12, CanadaSaint said:

Is Lemina's bridge to Ralph definitely burnt? On his day he can be a thoroughbred, and perhaps just the kind of player we need - especially as it wouldn't involve a transfer fee, but he needs to do it every week, and his piss poor attitude is a big stumbling block.

I'd fancy Ralph's chances at rehabilitating him, but I'm not sure he's worth the risk when Ralph has done such a great job building spirit and cohesiveness in the squad. Pity, really.

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I've heard severe doubts from a senior level at the club as to whether anyone can sort out his attitude.

My own view is simple: Lemina is not a team player. All he wants is his own glory and more money. But football is a team game so he'll never fit at Saints.

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  On 25/07/2020 at 05:12, CanadaSaint said:

Is Lemina's bridge to Ralph definitely burnt? On his day he can be a thoroughbred, and perhaps just the kind of player we need - especially as it wouldn't involve a transfer fee, but he needs to do it every week, and his piss poor attitude is a big stumbling block.

I'd fancy Ralph's chances at rehabilitating him, but I'm not sure he's worth the risk when Ralph has done such a great job building spirit and cohesiveness in the squad. Pity, really.

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It'd be great if Ralph could integrate him and get him playing. He's the best midfielder on our books, and that we can't use him is very frustrating. 

My feeling is that his chance has been and gone, sadly. 

djharvey

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  On 25/07/2020 at 02:45, skintsaint said:

Hopefully we can outspend the likes to Sheff Utd this summer but not expecting too. Players look relaxed in training, still predicting an open game.

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Couldn't give a toss about outspending other clubs, it's all about the quality and attitude of the players/staff we recruit!

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CB Fry

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  On 25/07/2020 at 02:45, skintsaint said:

Hopefully we can outspend the likes to Sheff Utd this summer but not expecting too. Players look relaxed in training, still predicting an open game.

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Please please please please can we win the transfer spending cup this summer. I wish we were West Ham.

iansums

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  On 25/07/2020 at 02:45, skintsaint said:

Hopefully we can outspend the likes to Sheff Utd this summer but not expecting too. Players look relaxed in training, still predicting an open game.

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Your username is quite apt really 😉

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John Boy Saint

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  On 25/07/2020 at 07:28, egg said:

It'd be great if Ralph could integrate him and get him playing. He's the best midfielder on our books, and that we can't use him is very frustrating. 

My feeling is that his chance has been and gone, sadly. 

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Egg me old mate I would suggest that you blow the flame out on that particular candle, the bloke is a wastrel, and he sure as hell ain't our best midfielder as he ain't been in it for over a season. Given the outlay we made on buying him, versus what he has given back he is nowhere near consideration as a "best midfielder ".

Pamplemousse

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0-0 bore draw.

 

Nice to have an end to the season we can enjoy. Fully expect us to push on next season, not sure we're quite at Leicester/Wolves "best of the rest" levels but it would be nicer if we can get close to them.

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hasper57saint

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I’m going for a 6-0 win for Saints and Danny to get four and that’s because Sheffield United hate Vardy 

almost as much as we do. I won’t forget how he put  an Dyke out of playing for months.i

Matthew Le God

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  On 25/07/2020 at 15:43, hasper57saint said:

I’m going for a 6-0 win for Saints and Danny to get four and that’s because Sheffield United hate Vardy 

almost as much as we do. I won’t forget how he put  an Dyke out of playing for months.i

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Is that Virgil van Dijk's gay cousin? 🤔😉

I doubt Sheffield United's fans dislike for Vardy (if it exists) would be to the extent where their players are happy to concede goals to help Vardy not win a golden boot.

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SaintBobby

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I think I'd be okay with a 3-4 defeat if Ings got a hattrick.

Yes, yes, I know - every place is worth £2m or something. But in the absence of silverware, I'm more interested in a Saints player getting some golden footwear, to be honest.

 

iansums

iansums

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  On 26/07/2020 at 10:17, SaintBobby said:

I think I'd be okay with a 3-4 defeat if Ings got a hattrick.

Yes, yes, I know - every place is worth £2m or something. But in the absence of silverware, I'm more interested in a Saints player getting some golden footwear, to be honest.

 

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Another oddball post about being happy to see Saints lose if............ I just want to see us win like each and every other game, if Ings were to win the Golden Boot then that would be a bonus.

SaintBobby

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  On 26/07/2020 at 10:46, iansums said:

Another oddball post about being happy to see Saints lose if............ I just want to see us win like each and every other game, if Ings were to win the Golden Boot then that would be a bonus.

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Of course, I want us to win. Like every game. 8-0 would be great, with Ings getting all the goals.

But given a choice between (a) winning 1-0 and (b) losing but Ings getting the golden boot, I'd probably choose the latter tbh.

I'm not overly exercised about whether we finish 11th or 12th.

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