are we all p1ssing in the same bucket now?

[Window Cleaner]

Im not ****ing in the bucket at all, but im not a lowe luvvie, i dont know what i am!

 

A true supporter of SFC who rises above the melee and the playground fighting

in the act of supporting his club.A supporter who accepts the fact that just now we're stuck with Lowe,that he's trying to cut costs and get us back on a level keel. That there is no viable alternative. A person who would welcome a takeover but realises that the current bunch of tyre kickers have no money.

[Raven on the wing]

Itchen Full member wrote :-

 

"I hold no particular affection for Lowe but think he is simply doing what has to be done unless somebody with millions of pounds to throw away comes along. You could change the man at the top but they'd still have to live within a budget."

 

I would point out that any half wit of a businessman is capable of cutting costs - the secret is to have a half decent football team as well ! That is where Rupert continues to be a total failure as a chairman/football visionary. Replacing Rupert with any other businessman with half a brain would immediately remove much of the angst the fan base is currently experiencing. Unfortunately no doubt the first thing he did when he came back was to ensure he would get ANOTHER sizeable pay off if asked to leave !!

[70's Mike]

Read the thread title and thought we were talking about going to Fratton again.

[Colinjb]

A true supporter of SFC who rises above the melee and the playground fighting

in the act of supporting his club.A supporter who accepts the fact that just now we're stuck with Lowe,that he's trying to cut costs and get us back on a level keel. That there is no viable alternative. A person who would welcome a takeover but realises that the current bunch of tyre kickers have no money.

 

A true supporter has a right to express that they feel the current board is incompetant.

[um pahars]

That there is no viable alternative.

 

What a defeatist attitude.

 

Is there really no viable alternative to Jan as manager??

 

Is there really no viable alternative to Lowe as CEO??

 

Are we stuck with them forever?? What happens when they die?? Do we cease to exist??

 

Both may need a withdrawal of some their previous support to get things moving and a change of heart by some people, but to suggest there are no viable alternatives is wide of the mark.

 

There are plenty of workable solutions if some of the shreholders finally realise they have made some serious errors of judgement in appointing Jan and backing Lowe's (and Kim Van De Waal's!!!!!) failing strategy.

[dubai_phil]

What a defeatist attitude.

 

Is there really no viable alternative to Jan as manager??

 

Is there really no viable alternative to Lowe as CEO??

 

Are we stuck with them forever?? What happens when they die?? Do we cease to exist??

 

Both may need a withdrawal of some their previous support to get things moving and a change of heart by some people, but to suggest there are no viable alternatives is wide of the mark.

 

There are plenty of workable solutions if some of the shreholders finally realise they have made some serious errors of judgement in appointing Jan and backing Lowe's (and Kim Van De Waal's!!!!!) failing strategy.

 

Agree with all above. I think as fans we need to break the problem down into bite sized chunks.

 

The three I see are

JP isn't making it happen on the pitch

the youngsters will be good but need help

Rupert has the problem of a failed manager

 

Problems are best solved one at a time and over a few weeks or months.

 

As we know the simple solution is find a zillionaire and get Wenger in as manager with some players that aren't Kaka.

 

But in reality we HAVE to ensure CCC survival so I think it can be done as follows

 

1) Lowe needs an excuse. He has set a Strategy and an Vision. JP is not producing the results that the Vision requires so he needs an excuse to dismiss JP. That could be simple - we "hear" from Green Tree Frog that JP et al are on a low basic high bonus salary structure. Lowe & JP can agree a severance on mutual agreement. JP can say it is because his lowe (sic) salary and the fall of the pound means he has to return to Holland for personal reasons, or something similar.

 

2) We may need to sell one player to afford the quality of experienced loan players we will need to stay up (as well as possibily appeasing the bank). That COULD happen if we are able to move somebody like Euell/Skacel and then Lowe can justify it within his experiment as "replacing valuable experience that we thought we would have with Svennson"

 

3) The Lowe issue can be resolved once a replacement manager is secured - somebody who KNOWS what they need to do with the kids and is prepared to work for a lowe base salary and big bonus for keeping us up

 

Now I am NOT siding with Lowe, but I point out that when you paint somebody into a corner, you tend to bring out a "Fight or Flight" reflex. We already KNOW Lowe won't walk (yet) so as Fans we need to understand that he is the personality to fight back out of that corner, so we need to understand he will have to solve the JP problem with PR spin.

 

Losing the 3 amigos is critical to our survival, but what has become MUCH more urgent in the fans eyes is get rid of JP NOW, and we can get rid of Lowe in a few weeks time because AT LEAST with a REAL manager we may just win another game at home this seaons and MAY stay up.

 

Lose Lowe and keep JP - ha we're still doomed. Lose them both would be nice but very unlikely BEFORE the Norwich game

 

Oh and what kind soul sent my Open letter to JP to the Echo today:)

[dubai_phil]

Agree with all above. I think as fans we need to break the problem down into bite sized chunks.

 

The three I see are

JP isn't making it happen on the pitch

the youngsters will be good but need help

Rupert has the problem of a failed manager

 

Problems are best solved one at a time and over a few weeks or months.

 

As we know the simple solution is find a zillionaire and get Wenger in as manager with some players that aren't Kaka.

 

But in reality we HAVE to ensure CCC survival so I think it can be done as follows

 

1) Lowe needs an excuse. He has set a Strategy and an Vision. JP is not producing the results that the Vision requires so he needs an excuse to dismiss JP. That could be simple - we "hear" from Green Tree Frog that JP et al are on a low basic high bonus salary structure. Lowe & JP can agree a severance on mutual agreement. JP can say it is because his lowe (sic) salary and the fall of the pound means he has to return to Holland for personal reasons, or something similar.

 

2) We may need to sell one player to afford the quality of experienced loan players we will need to stay up (as well as possibily appeasing the bank). That COULD happen if we are able to move somebody like Euell/Skacel and then Lowe can justify it within his experiment as "replacing valuable experience that we thought we would have with Svennson"

 

3) The Lowe issue can be resolved once a replacement manager is secured - somebody who KNOWS what they need to do with the kids and is prepared to work for a lowe base salary and big bonus for keeping us up

 

Now I am NOT siding with Lowe, but I point out that when you paint somebody into a corner, you tend to bring out a "Fight or Flight" reflex. We already KNOW Lowe won't walk (yet) so as Fans we need to understand that he is the personality to fight back out of that corner, so we need to understand he will have to solve the JP problem with PR spin.

 

Losing the 3 amigos is critical to our survival, but what has become MUCH more urgent in the fans eyes is get rid of JP NOW, and we can get rid of Lowe in a few weeks time because AT LEAST with a REAL manager we may just win another game at home this seaons and MAY stay up.

 

Lose Lowe and keep JP - ha we're still doomed. Lose them both would be nice but very unlikely BEFORE the Norwich game

 

Oh and what kind soul sent my Open letter to JP to the Echo today:)

 

 

lol told you so!