Charlie Wayman Posted 6 July, 2020 Share Posted 6 July, 2020 Once again he shows us why he so invaluable and indispensible to our club and why Ralph loves him. The way he has been messed about in and out of the team under various managers, most players would just want away but Oriol rarely displays any signs of dissent or unhappiness with his lot, works ever harder so that he is ready when he is called, always has a smile on his face and his sheer professionalism must be an inspiration to all the young players. Of course he makes errors but who doesn't and of course he can at times be a car crash waiting to happen when his enthusiasm gets the better of him but on a day like yesterday when there was nowhere to hide and the chips were down the guy played a blinder and turned in a near word class performance. Perhaps if a few clubs were queuing up for his signature a few more of the naysayers on her might fully appreciate his worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 6 July, 2020 Share Posted 6 July, 2020 He's certainly a reliable member of the team, and was pretty epic last night. But for me - he's one of the players we genuinely need to improve upon if we want to go further than we are. He lacks the mobility and speed to get around the pitch with this high press style, he's a great option to have around the place but I'd like to see us trying to improve on him if we can. It's up to him if he fancies being a member of the squad, but he may move on this summer IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 6 July, 2020 Share Posted 6 July, 2020 1 minute ago, Charlie Wayman said: Once again he shows us why he so invaluable and indispensible to our club and why Ralph loves him. The way he has been messed about in and out of the team under various managers, most players would just want away but Oriol rarely displays any signs of dissent or unhappiness with his lot, works ever harder so that he is ready when he is called, always has a smile on his face and his sheer professionalism must be an inspiration to all the young players. Of course he makes errors but who doesn't and of course he can at times be a car crash waiting to happen when his enthusiasm gets the better of him but on a day like yesterday when there was nowhere to hide and the chips were down the guy played a blinder and turned in a near word class performance. Perhaps if a few clubs were queuing up for his signature a few more of the naysayers on her might fully appreciate his worth. I like him, always have. It must be difficult for him making odd appearances here and there. I don't have any strong opinions regarding Hojbjerg , but the whole midfield seems to function better without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 6 July, 2020 Share Posted 6 July, 2020 14 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: Once again he shows us why he so invaluable and indispensible to our club and why Ralph loves him. The way he has been messed about in and out of the team under various managers, most players would just want away but Oriol rarely displays any signs of dissent or unhappiness with his lot, works ever harder so that he is ready when he is called, always has a smile on his face and his sheer professionalism must be an inspiration to all the young players. Of course he makes errors but who doesn't and of course he can at times be a car crash waiting to happen when his enthusiasm gets the better of him but on a day like yesterday when there was nowhere to hide and the chips were down the guy played a blinder and turned in a near word class performance. Perhaps if a few clubs were queuing up for his signature a few more of the naysayers on her might fully appreciate his worth. Well said. He has been massively underrated in recent times and the folly of thinking Romeu is unsuited to Ralphs system has been highlighted by his performances v Watford and M. City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy40 Posted 6 July, 2020 Share Posted 6 July, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: Ralph loves him Does he, really? Romeu has been criminally underused by our recent managers, who seem to prefer rare flashes of brilliance over at times uninspiring but consistent performances. He's a few years of good performances in him yet, and if a good Spanish side wanted him and would offer regular 1st team starts if I was him I'd be off. Edited 6 July, 2020 by Fatboy40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 6 July, 2020 Share Posted 6 July, 2020 Think Romeu is a far better foil for JWP in midfield bit like Wanyama and Schniederlin where Victor was the blunt instrument and Morgan the surgeon. Romeu is the iron fist in Prowseys velvet glove. Romeu always seems to look to play forward much more than PEH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 7 July, 2020 Share Posted 7 July, 2020 Intlelligent person. Loyal to the club. Comitted in his game. Seriously under-used in favour of others who appear to be no better. Accepts place on bench without complaint. Continuously strives to improve. Great ambassador for the club. Above describes both Yoshida (sadly now gone) and Romeu. Guess every club needs platyer like that who accepts his place in the squad and can slot in effectively when required. Really hope his contract is renewed and he's happy to stay. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 7 July, 2020 Share Posted 7 July, 2020 6 hours ago, Wurzel said: Intlelligent person. Loyal to the club. Comitted in his game. Seriously under-used in favour of others who appear to be no better. Accepts place on bench without complaint. Continuously strives to improve. Great ambassador for the club. Above describes both Yoshida (sadly now gone) and Romeu. Guess every club needs platyer like that who accepts his place in the squad and can slot in effectively when required. Really hope his contract is renewed and he's happy to stay. Agree with you there Wurzel. Romeu is a class act and a popular member of the squad. Hopefully we can tie him down to a new contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 7 July, 2020 Share Posted 7 July, 2020 (edited) You can't argue with the comraderie. Edited 7 July, 2020 by Nolan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 7 July, 2020 Share Posted 7 July, 2020 29 minutes ago, Nolan said: You can't argue with the comraderie. Is that the Italian boy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickendippers Posted 7 July, 2020 Share Posted 7 July, 2020 He is guilty more than most of the no1 sin of passing backwards when there is a straight forward forward pass on. There were a couple of times when we had won the ball high up, a chance of an overload and the ball went backwards only to be hoofed out of play by McCarthy when City pressed. I don't understand why we work so hard to get the ball back only to go back to "Puel Ball", safety first, boring football. (sometimes you have to go back to go forward - but you can tell when players can't be arsed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveloyMush Posted 7 July, 2020 Share Posted 7 July, 2020 1 hour ago, Chickendippers said: He is guilty more than most of the no1 sin of passing backwards when there is a straight forward forward pass on. There were a couple of times when we had won the ball high up, a chance of an overload and the ball went backwards only to be hoofed out of play by McCarthy when City pressed. I don't understand why we work so hard to get the ball back only to go back to "Puel Ball", safety first, boring football. (sometimes you have to go back to go forward - but you can tell when players can't be arsed) Not as guilty as Hojbjerg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 14 March, 2021 Share Posted 14 March, 2021 Badly missed him today. Got a feeling we will miss him for the run-in, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 March, 2021 Share Posted 14 March, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Badly missed him today. Got a feeling we will miss him for the run-in, too. We're very lightweight through the middle without him, aren't we. I can't remember Diallo or JWP making any tackles. Both good on the ball they may be, but they're not very aggressive. A couple of nice guys. Edited 14 March, 2021 by S-Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 April, 2021 Share Posted 28 April, 2021 We’ve badly missed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 28 April, 2021 Share Posted 28 April, 2021 is he off to the J-League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 28 April, 2021 Share Posted 28 April, 2021 Nailed on j-league move for Romeu then ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 28 April, 2021 Share Posted 28 April, 2021 For me, despite the injury he's our player of the season. Sorely missed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 28 April, 2021 Share Posted 28 April, 2021 How many indivudual players have we 'badly missed' this season? Currently its Romeu, previously I can remember KWP, Ings, Armstrong and Vestergaard all being badly missed at some point due to injury. Personally I think we're just making excuses for the team not being good enough. We've been poor more times than enough with all the above players available. It was almost laughable when KWP was injured that some believed our 4222 system couldnt work without him. A whole formation falls apart because a right back is missing? Other teams seem able to adapt to missing certain players, but not us. And we continue to find excuses for them at will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 April, 2021 Share Posted 29 April, 2021 11 hours ago, woodsaint1 said: How many indivudual players have we 'badly missed' this season? Currently its Romeu, previously I can remember KWP, Ings, Armstrong and Vestergaard all being badly missed at some point due to injury. Personally I think we're just making excuses for the team not being good enough. We've been poor more times than enough with all the above players available. It was almost laughable when KWP was injured that some believed our 4222 system couldnt work without him. A whole formation falls apart because a right back is missing? Other teams seem able to adapt to missing certain players, but not us. And we continue to find excuses for them at will But these players are a huge miss for us and our system is reliant on everyone being at the top of their game for it to be a success. Without KWP, we had to play a CB at RB, we had absolutely no width and Bertrand wasn’t offering any the other side because his legs have gone. Without Romeu, the 2 in midfield are far too lightweight and easy to bypass. This is the biggest fault of Ralph. He’s sticking to his system regardless of the fact we are missing key players for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 April, 2021 Share Posted 29 April, 2021 11 hours ago, woodsaint1 said: How many indivudual players have we 'badly missed' this season? Currently its Romeu, previously I can remember KWP, Ings, Armstrong and Vestergaard all being badly missed at some point due to injury. Personally I think we're just making excuses for the team not being good enough. We've been poor more times than enough with all the above players available. It was almost laughable when KWP was injured that some believed our 4222 system couldnt work without him. A whole formation falls apart because a right back is missing? Other teams seem able to adapt to missing certain players, but not us. And we continue to find excuses for them at will The point is that we don't have adequate, or even any, backups for these players. The difference in quality between these players and any backup is huge, or there is no backup (KWP). These players are huge misses, its not an excuse, it is because the squad has been so badly constructed, and we do not have decent backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 29 April, 2021 Share Posted 29 April, 2021 40 minutes ago, SKD said: But these players are a huge miss for us and our system is reliant on everyone being at the top of their game for it to be a success. Without KWP, we had to play a CB at RB, we had absolutely no width and Bertrand wasn’t offering any the other side because his legs have gone. Without Romeu, the 2 in midfield are far too lightweight and easy to bypass. This is the biggest fault of Ralph. He’s sticking to his system regardless of the fact we are missing key players for it. Maybe there isn't a working system with the depth we have at our disposal. There is a reason the last two managers with these lads almost got relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diabolus Ex Machina Posted 29 April, 2021 Share Posted 29 April, 2021 (edited) He's certainly been a miss as he was having a great season but I personally don't think Diallo has done too bad as his replacement. In games where he's partnered JWP in the middle we've won 3, drawn 1 and lost 4 which isn't too bad of a return. Jankewitz is still a bit of an unknown quantity at the moment as well as he screwed up his first major opportunity after a couple of minutes and hasn't been given another chance yet (though i'm hopeful he does get another chance in future). The real weakness is our fullback cover - especially on the left side with KWP. When he's not played we've only managed a single point in 8 games compared to the 35 points in the 24 he has played. We've actually tried 6 other players there this season - Valery, JWP, Ramsay, Stephens, Bednarek and Bertrand with Bednarek being the only 1 given more than a single game at RB (3 games). Valery may not have impressed Ralph much in his time here but he had played 34 league games over the previous 2 seasons and so has some Prem experience so to let him go in January and not get a replacement in has turned out to be one of our biggest mistakes I think. Edited 29 April, 2021 by Diabolus Ex Machina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 April, 2021 Share Posted 29 April, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, TWar said: Maybe there isn't a working system with the depth we have at our disposal. There is a reason the last two managers with these lads almost got relegated. Yes, that’s because Pellegrino and Mark Hughes are awful managers and hardly have a track record to suggest they’re anywhere near the level required. But even those 2 didn’t manage a run of 16 games as bad as this.... The system and players were pretty good for 2020, as you like to point out. Edited 29 April, 2021 by SKD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 April, 2021 Share Posted 29 April, 2021 There goes another thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 29 April, 2021 Share Posted 29 April, 2021 1 hour ago, SKD said: Yes, that’s because Pellegrino and Mark Hughes are awful managers and hardly have a track record to suggest they’re anywhere near the level required. But even those 2 didn’t manage a run of 16 games as bad as this.... The system and players were pretty good for 2020, as you like to point out. I think we were very lucky with fitness throughout 2020 and have since been very unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Force Posted 30 April, 2021 Share Posted 30 April, 2021 Some players can be more easily replaced than other in our squad, and when one of those players we cannot replicate the role of is out, we struggle. Romeu is definitely one of those players, he has been here a while now and I think we need to seriously look at having cover and/or replacement lined up, because it is vital to have an effective defensive midfielder to make other part of our strategy work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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