Roo1976 Posted 6 November, 2020 Share Posted 6 November, 2020 Obafemi nowhere to be seen at present...........he needs to do more than run about a bit and stick his chest out.........Adams is getting there slowly deserves his chance hes young hungry and keen to be in the right place. Must be frustrating for Long ,but having said that Longs never been a prolific striker and therefore finds it harder ,especially as how were playing, to find any sort of rhythm for himself to get any game play just the odd 3-5 mins at the end of matches. Cracking result tonight though....coys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 November, 2020 Share Posted 6 November, 2020 4 minutes ago, Roo1976 said: Obafemi nowhere to be seen at present...........he needs to do more than run about a bit and stick his chest out.........Adams is getting there slowly deserves his chance hes young hungry and keen to be in the right place. Must be frustrating for Long ,but having said that Longs never been a prolific striker and therefore finds it harder ,especially as how were playing, to find any sort of rhythm for himself to get any game play just the odd 3-5 mins at the end of matches. Cracking result tonight though....coys. Harsh on Obafemi, he's had some cracking finishes and assists but is inconsistent, to be expected from a 19 year old. I think he's definitely got a future with us, Ings might be off next summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 6 November, 2020 Share Posted 6 November, 2020 8 minutes ago, Roo1976 said: Adams is getting there slowly Slowly? He's been magnificent for the last few games. If this is him 'getting there slowly' then I shudder to think what an immense player he will be when he gets 'there'. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 6 November, 2020 Share Posted 6 November, 2020 Obafemi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 November, 2020 Share Posted 6 November, 2020 47 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Hold my hands up and say I was wrong. He's developed into an outstanding premier league forward. Scuffed that finish tonight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 November, 2020 Share Posted 6 November, 2020 24 minutes ago, The Cat said: Obafemi Oba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 7 November, 2020 Share Posted 7 November, 2020 Think we should get Obafemi out on loan given how far down the pecking order he is now. Would only be a good thing for his development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 7 November, 2020 Share Posted 7 November, 2020 I owe an apology for doubting Adams. For me, Walcott is worth a regular place in the team which presents the question of which regular starter to leave out. I no longer think Adams should will be sacrificed for Walcott but they are both well ahead of Obafemi, who has slipped out of the manager's plans. Although Walcott and Adams are partnering well in the absence of Ings, what happens in the longer term? Redmond is looking like the weaker player up front at the moment, but plays on the left, whereas Walcott is essentially a right-sided player. Armstrong's contribution against Newcastle, as well as his extremely well worked goal make it difficult to drop him. I can't offer a solution. I believe we have a star player in Walcott, one who will perform even better as becomes accustomed to the manager's style of play but I have no idea how he will be accommodated when everyone is fit. All I would say, given the subject of this thread is that Obafemi is essentially out of the picture now that another academy player, N'lundulu is now ahead of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 18 November, 2020 Author Share Posted 18 November, 2020 On 07/11/2020 at 00:24, bpsaint said: Think we should get Obafemi out on loan given how far down the pecking order he is now. Would only be a good thing for his development. Dont think he has a future here judging by RH's recent comments! That's got to hurt the player https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/18878794.hasenhuttl-explains-obafemis-recent-saints-absence/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 18 November, 2020 Share Posted 18 November, 2020 On 07/11/2020 at 00:24, bpsaint said: Think we should get Obafemi out on loan given how far down the pecking order he is now. Would only be a good thing for his development. Can't see that happening under the Crocker regime, unless we consider he won't ever make it. Loans are supposedly (in general) a thing of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 November, 2020 Share Posted 18 November, 2020 10 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: Can't see that happening under the Crocker regime, unless we consider he won't ever make it. Loans are supposedly (in general) a thing of the past. Really? I thought we had already started sending out some players on loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 18 November, 2020 Share Posted 18 November, 2020 32 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Really? I thought we had already started sending out some players on loan? In his Athletic interview, Crocker said that the loans aren't the way to go, he prefers to see players develop here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 November, 2020 Share Posted 18 November, 2020 6 minutes ago, egg said: In his Athletic interview, Crocker said that the loans aren't the way to go, he prefers to see players develop here. Cheers just read it. Sounds like there may be some exceptions. I'm hoping that Sims is one such exception. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 Obafemi will end up sold to a club like Norwich I expect in the future. RH doesn't seem to impressed with him at the moment and others stepping up in his place. Use the money on someone else who fits the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 6 hours ago, skintsaint said: Obafemi will end up sold to a club like Norwich I expect in the future. RH doesn't seem to impressed with him at the moment and others stepping up in his place. Use the money on someone else who fits the system. I agree with that. Ability wise, I'm not sure there's much between them. Attitude wise, they're night and day. We've been told before about Obafemi not doing what he needs to stay fit and injury free. That's unforgivable. Compare that with Adams, who's so keen to stay fit and injury free that sees someone periodically away from the club to mot his body, iron out niggles before he feels them, and keep him in top condition. That's what those who want it do. Obafemi has the smell of someone who won't achieve his potential, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 Presumably the players sent out on loan are the ones we don't want. Getting them game time will make it easier to sell them if they play well. There's no reason to keep people here that are going to be moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 On 18/11/2020 at 21:11, Mr X said: Dont think he has a future here judging by RH's recent comments! That's got to hurt the player https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/18878794.hasenhuttl-explains-obafemis-recent-saints-absence/ Alternatively it could be the "kick up the back side" he needs - shape up or ship out! RH probably tried telling him this in private to no avail, so final chance saloon in the public - also lets fans know he gave him more than a chance. Massive FU by Obi if he blows this chance - has the ability, but not the work rate/attitude - just the same for the Irish team. Hope he learns and comes good but plenty have gone the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnia Cherie Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 With his recent improvement I would choose Adams. He's looked good with Walcott in the last couple of games and playing better and scoring can only boost his confidence. Obafemi is more of a sub. He has come off the bench and scored some lovely goals but I'm not sure about the whole 90minutes. However, as with Danny Ings at the moment, an injury can happen at any time so perhaps the club may keep him, just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 Adams is the out and out winner. N'lundulu vs Obafemi vs Long becomes the question now to see who gets to be our option off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 23 minutes ago, TWar said: N'lundulu vs Obafemi vs Long becomes the question now to see who gets to be our option off the bench. Only while Ings is out injured. Seems Walcott is preferred to all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 On 19/11/2020 at 01:30, skintsaint said: Obafemi will end up sold to a club like Norwich I expect in the future. RH doesn't seem to impressed with him at the moment and others stepping up in his place. Use the money on someone else who fits the system. As i said way up the thread, i think he will drift down to non league, unless there is some massive change in attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 20 November, 2020 Author Share Posted 20 November, 2020 3 hours ago, Toussaint said: As i said way up the thread, i think he will drift down to non league, unless there is some massive change in attitude. He will do a good job for the fishy folk keeping them down 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 Wasn't there something a while ago that he was in with that workshy bugger Lemina and his brother - Lemina had an "injury" and yet was out on the town in Bournemouth with young Micheal in tow........ work hard on full pay...........or you could also doss about with zero effort on full pay. That is where player contracts are very poor, all of us working folk know that if you cock about swinging the lead you will be found out and ultimately handed your P45, these guys can do pretty much whatever they like without sanction, unless they do something really bloody stupid to possibly have their contract terminated. Its a real shame because by the time these guys are 19/20 if they are in the first team they have done all the hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 November, 2020 Share Posted 22 November, 2020 Ironically a good example of why loans work so shortly after Crocker says we won't be using them, send him out to some dog shit league two side and let him know what life could be like if he doesn't sort himself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 22 November, 2020 Share Posted 22 November, 2020 I'm pretty sure Obafemi is eligible now after his ban. Didn't play for the u23's yesterday. I suspect he'll be nowhere near the squad, but that we'll instead see L'undulu. My monies on a loan in January. If he's really pissed them off, somewhere overseas like Belgium division 3 or similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 Adams probably just about edging this one. 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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