Shroppie Posted 23 November, 2020 Share Posted 23 November, 2020 Saints set to be allowed 4000 spectators under new guidelines, as long as Southampton remains in lowest tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Posted 23 November, 2020 Share Posted 23 November, 2020 2 hours ago, Shroppie said: Saints set to be allowed 4000 spectators under new guidelines, as long as Southampton remains in lowest tier. I just need Manchester to get out of tier 3 so I'm allowed to travel!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 26 November, 2020 Share Posted 26 November, 2020 On 23/11/2020 at 15:59, Shroppie said: Saints set to be allowed 4000 spectators under new guidelines, as long as Southampton remains in lowest tier. Maybe they could play home games on the Isle of Wight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted 26 November, 2020 Share Posted 26 November, 2020 Would be interesting to see if this is true, anyone able to raise it with the fans voice panel lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 26 November, 2020 Share Posted 26 November, 2020 How many corporate season tickets did we sell? Must be a tiny amount. I can see that being true though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 26 November, 2020 Share Posted 26 November, 2020 If it's the Saints Bar season tickets they are sat in the corporate area so separated from normal fans anyway plus not many of them so makes sense. More profitable tickets for the club so can see why they wouldn't want to refund those compared to someone with a £399 Itchen South season ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 Covid has not gone away so many over 65's will still not want to take the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 I was phoned this morning checking if I wanted to be in the ballot. If you are successful, you don't go into subsequent ballots in order to give others a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteleySaint30 Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 5 minutes ago, ecuk268 said: I was phoned this morning checking if I wanted to be in the ballot. If you are successful, you don't go into subsequent ballots in order to give others a chance. Strange they called you. I havent recieved a call......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 45 minutes ago, whiteleySaint30 said: Strange they called you. I havent recieved a call......... I was called yesterday, must be costing saints a fortune in phone calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divergent Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 Just got this email from the club - no phone call for me but then I’m in the cheap seats aka the Family Centre. With Southampton in tier 2 of the government’s local restriction tier system, the club will be able to allow a maximum of 2,000 supporters into the stadium for our match against Sheffield United on Sunday 13th December. You previously confirmed that you would like to be considered for selection to attend matches in October and November. To retain the same details and group you may have previously selected for the match against Sheffield United, and further fixtures in December and January, no further action is required. If you wish to amend this, please complete the form using the button below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 1 minute ago, Divergent said: Just got this email from the club - no phone call for me but then I’m in the cheap seats aka the Family Centre. With Southampton in tier 2 of the government’s local restriction tier system, the club will be able to allow a maximum of 2,000 supporters into the stadium for our match against Sheffield United on Sunday 13th December. You previously confirmed that you would like to be considered for selection to attend matches in October and November. To retain the same details and group you may have previously selected for the match against Sheffield United, and further fixtures in December and January, no further action is required. If you wish to amend this, please complete the form using the button below. I had exactly the same email from the club. So just got to sit back and hope myself, my Dad and our friend (we are all season ticket holders) are part of the selection process. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 28 November, 2020 Share Posted 28 November, 2020 On 27/11/2020 at 18:03, davefizzy14 said: I had exactly the same email from the club. So just got to sit back and hope myself, my Dad and our friend (we are all season ticket holders) are part of the selection process. Fingers crossed. Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 On 27/11/2020 at 18:03, davefizzy14 said: I had exactly the same email from the club. So just got to sit back and hope myself, my Dad and our friend (we are all season ticket holders) are part of the selection process. Fingers crossed. I’ve had that too. I’d like to go to Sheffield United but unfortunately I am having a cataract operation the day after and I am supposed to self isolate for the three days before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 9 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: I’ve had that too. I’d like to go to Sheffield United but unfortunately I am having a cataract operation the day after and I am supposed to self isolate for the three days before Well wishing you a speedy recovery mate, and hopefully you can attend the Man City game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenilworthy Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 11 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: I’ve had that too. I’d like to go to Sheffield United but unfortunately I am having a cataract operation the day after and I am supposed to self isolate for the three days before I had a cataract operation at the end of October and had to self isolate for 14 days before. The operation wouldn't be high on my list of fun things to do, but wasn't as bad as I feared. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 I'm opting out until the New Year. Want to see family at Christmas so don't want unnecessary risks. Don't want to use the train, so it's a long drive, no pub, little chance of friends going and I think it'll be very strange in the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 4 hours ago, davefizzy14 said: Well wishing you a speedy recovery mate, and hopefully you can attend the Man City game Thanks. Hopefully I’ll be able to see it better afterwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 2 December, 2020 Share Posted 2 December, 2020 Haven’t heard anything from the club regarding attending a game so no idea if I am going in the hat or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteleySaint30 Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 Update now on website from the club. I'm #ucking fuming to be honest. Take my £600 and then change the goalposts. #ankers...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 11 minutes ago, whiteleySaint30 said: Update now on website from the club. I'm #ucking fuming to be honest. Take my £600 and then change the goalposts. #ankers...... Woah that’s a bit fkin much isn’t it? So some fans are better than other fans are they? That’s what they are saying. How can it be fair that some can go to “each home match or alternate matches” whilst the rest of the season ticket holders are in a ballot not for one of 2000 tickets but one of 1300 ? I know it’s unique times, I know they would never be able to please everyone but bloody hell, come on. I don’t understand why supporting the team away from home should even come into this. There are many reasons why fans can or will only watch the home matches ie. Cost, travel, work, personal circumstances either medical or financial.... It certainly does feel like the goalposts have been moved 🤨 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve green Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 I don't like it, but I understand it. The club have struggled with some of the organisational stuff and with hindsight maybe wish they'd not proceeded with ST sales, but then at the time they would've been critisised for that. I think our world has changed rather than the goalposts moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 Think I’m one of the 176. Guess it’s a case of wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 (edited) Hmm. Broadly I'm fine with a weighted ballot. But having approx. 12% of the 2,000 'capacity' fixed for the first game (likely a higher percentage if you consider the 2,000 is lowered by hospitality) seems a lot. Think I've had my season ticket for a decade now (essentially as soon as I could afford it after getting my first 'proper' job). And whilst I don't expect to be in some mega-special category for that, it feels a pretty hefty disparity in favour of the super fans. Ultimately there'll always be people 'losing out' with such a low attendance cap. But my main point is that if they're intending to rotate through ST holders as often as possible, having a high percentage of fixed allocations doesn't help that goal. Edited 3 December, 2020 by ant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 Interesting to note that although the figure of 2000 spectators is bandied around (by government, media, club), in fact if you break the figures down, 202 (or ~10%) are not allocated to supporters. Presumably they are to cover the players, staff, press, stewards, WAGs etc. 1798 "spectators" in total. Presumably if Southampton ever got moved to Tier 1, this number (202) would not change much (maybe a few more stewards) and it might allow almost 2000 more real supporters to attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 2 minutes ago, ant said: Ultimately there'll always be people 'losing out' with such a low attendance cap. But my main point is that if they're intending to rotate through ST holders as often as possible, have a high percentage of fixed allocations doesn't help that goal. It certainly doesn’t, in effect instead of seeing say 1 in 5 matches you are looking at 1 in 8 until the figures increase. I really think away support should not be relevant to how the club caters for their home support. They are creating an elitist supporter group. If they want to do something like that they should say members who have attended every home match will be granted a percentage, at least that would be more relevant for home support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 I think they've done it fairly. No system will please everyone but the percentage going to high-attending fans is low. Hopefully the 2000 will increase in the New Year. And I've done my bit to increase your chances as I think I'm eligible for the second tier, but I'm opting out for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 One thing they haven’t clarified is whether they’re only counting PL games in the 66% count, or all aways including cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctorkmt Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 I didn't see anything about children either? If one of my boys gets picked, they're obviously not going without me. They're 9 and 11. So their ticket will go back in the hat and be redrawn I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 1 hour ago, Shroppie said: I think they've done it fairly. No system will please everyone but the percentage going to high-attending fans is low. Hopefully the 2000 will increase in the New Year. And I've done my bit to increase your chances as I think I'm eligible for the second tier, but I'm opting out for now. I think it's fair, relatively small number of tickets set aside for those fans who have gone above and beyond following the Saints, I don't qualify but personally know a few who are in both categories, the lengths some of them go to is unbelievable. Not many of them live in Southampton so every game involves a journey. It's only 238 , tiny number, of those the 62 every game is fair. - 62 fans that have held their Season Ticket for over six years and attended every match home and away last season- 176 fans that have held their Season Ticket for over four years, attending at least 95% of home games and 66% of away games last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 WTF have away games got to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 7 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: WTF have away games got to do with it? They're uber fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 21 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: WTF have away games got to do with it? Can you think of a better way to distinguish between ST holders, who are assumed to attend all home games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 4 minutes ago, Shroppie said: Can you think of a better way to distinguish between ST holders, who are assumed to attend all home games? The fairest method is to treat every ST holder the same. If you choose to be in the ballot then if you don’t get picked for a game you have a better chance in the next one. Carry on until you’ve worked through the list and everybody has had a chance to go to a game. having an elite group that get to go to every game is just taking the piss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 I was in favour of ring fencing some for those fans when it was out of 8k seats But given it is only 2k capacity it doesn't feel right now given there are 10k odd season ticket holders in the ballot now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenilworthy Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 Maybe it will make people on here feel better that both myself and my two sons are in the "elite fan "category but we are disqualified because we have Tier 3 postcodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 1 hour ago, Doctorkmt said: I didn't see anything about children either? If one of my boys gets picked, they're obviously not going without me. They're 9 and 11. So their ticket will go back in the hat and be redrawn I guess? Not sure if there's a mechanism for dealing with individual games like that. I can't make the Sheffield game on the Sunday as it's our first game back in local football so told them, as I still want to be in the draw for subsequent games in the next tranche. "If you are selected for a game and you are unable to attend, you will not receive a refund for that fixture as the Season Ticket terms and conditions will be in place. Your name will be in the ballot for every home Premier League fixture." Missing the point that the tickets are not transferable and if I'm unable to go that will be one less in the stadium. Chances are I won't be successful but I suppose they are faced with a big administrative burden at the moment to be able to deal with individual cases. I'm just a bit 'meh' about it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 Seems fair to me even though I miss out on the second category by a couple of away games. Surprised we only have 62 in the first section, that's just over one bingo bus. I'd say it's only right that those who travel up and down the country every weekend get priority. They put their support above other things in their life to follow the team. It's a big commitment to do every game and they should be rewarded for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteleySaint30 Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 29 minutes ago, The Cat said: Seems fair to me even though I miss out on the second category by a couple of away games. Surprised we only have 62 in the first section, that's just over one bingo bus. I'd say it's only right that those who travel up and down the country every weekend get priority. They put their support above other things in their life to follow the team. It's a big commitment to do every game and they should be rewarded for it. Think your missing the point, if that was their intention, they should have advised everyone at point of sale. Pretty simple really - obviously didn't do that as it would have put a lot of people of parting with their money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 32 minutes ago, The Cat said: Seems fair to me even though I miss out on the second category by a couple of away games. Surprised we only have 62 in the first section, that's just over one bingo bus. I'd say it's only right that those who travel up and down the country every weekend get priority. They put their support above other things in their life to follow the team. It's a big commitment to do every game and they should be rewarded for it. I disagree entirely with this. Away attendance is irrelevant. Th club sold Season Tickets on a certain basis and that basis has changed. Their duty of consideration is to those who gave them money for this season. So having a season ticket for over thirty years is worth less than some youngster who wasn't even born at that time? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 Just now, Whitey Grandad said: I disagree entirely with this. Away attendance is irrelevant. Th club sold Season Tickets on a certain basis and that basis has changed. Their duty of consideration is to those who gave them money for this season. So having a season ticket for over thirty years is worth less than some youngster who wasn't even born at that time? There would have been a time when I'd have easily been in the second category, nearly the first, but things change, lives move on and new people become the week in and week out support. The people in the top 2 categories have given their money over this season and probably spent a good few grand following the team last season too. You have to draw the line somewhere. There might be some people who scoff at your 30 years because they've had one for 50. It's impossible to please everyone and I don't envy the people who have had to make this decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 8 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: I disagree entirely with this. Away attendance is irrelevant. Th club sold Season Tickets on a certain basis and that basis has changed. Their duty of consideration is to those who gave them money for this season. So having a season ticket for over thirty years is worth less than some youngster who wasn't even born at that time? I wouldn't get too worked up about this, ultimately going back in the ground is going to be pretty shit anyway, Premier league have agreed tonight that masks must be worn even though you're out in the fresh air, chanting discouraged, no doubt Saints will have trained up their stewards to act like Nazi covid Marshalls tracking your every move, the safety officer will be loving having the chance to have some much control. On top of that we'll probably lose anyway once fans are back as we mate the players nervous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 1 minute ago, JRM said: I wouldn't get too worked up about this, ultimately going back in the ground is going to be pretty shit anyway, Premier league have agreed tonight that masks must be worn even though you're out in the fresh air, chanting discouraged, no doubt Saints will have trained up their stewards to act like Nazi covid Marshalls tracking your every move, the safety officer will be loving having the chance to have some much control. On top of that we'll probably lose anyway once fans are back as we mate the players nervous That's just ridiculous. I've no issue wearing one in the concourse but there's no reason to wear them outside when everyone is miles apart from each other. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 18 minutes ago, JRM said: I wouldn't get too worked up about this, ultimately going back in the ground is going to be pretty shit anyway, Premier league have agreed tonight that masks must be worn even though you're out in the fresh air, chanting discouraged, no doubt Saints will have trained up their stewards to act like Nazi covid Marshalls tracking your every move, the safety officer will be loving having the chance to have some much control. On top of that we'll probably lose anyway once fans are back as we mate the players nervous I agree. It won't be anything like a normal matchday experience. My concern is that the whole business of accreditation and refunds has the potential to get very messy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 Fuck me, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with what they’re doing. Some people will moan about any criteria they use. I’d have thought most neutrals would think rewarding the people who go more often is perfectly reasonable. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 4 December, 2020 Share Posted 4 December, 2020 Have the club said (can't see it on the website?) when the ballot will take place and when we will know if we have been successful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 December, 2020 Share Posted 4 December, 2020 15 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Fuck me, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with what they’re doing. Some people will moan about any criteria they use. I’d have thought most neutrals would think rewarding the people who go more often is perfectly reasonable. Then you'd have thought wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 4 December, 2020 Share Posted 4 December, 2020 33 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: Then you'd have thought wrong. Out of intrest how would you have allocated the 2000 tickets avaiable ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 4 December, 2020 Share Posted 4 December, 2020 1 hour ago, IFHP said: Have the club said (can't see it on the website?) when the ballot will take place and when we will know if we have been successful? We should know by Tuesday , possibly earlier. What happens next? Those supporters that are successful in the ballot will have their seats allocated and will receive an email with information about their tickets by Tuesday 8th December. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteleySaint30 Posted 4 December, 2020 Share Posted 4 December, 2020 1 hour ago, IFHP said: Out of intrest how would you have allocated the 2000 tickets avaiable ? To season ticket holders, pretty simple I would have thought...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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