whelk Posted 28 August, 2020 Share Posted 28 August, 2020 17 hours ago, Wes Tender said: So the Lib Dumbs have appointed Sir Ed Davey as their leader beating pan-sexual Layla Moran 2-1 in the vote. Well, there wasn't much choice from among their 11 MPs was there, and I suppose that he was the least bad option available, as hardly anybody will have heard of any of them, apart from the boy Farron, who didn't set the world on fire the last time he led the party. The last leader they had with more than an ounce of charisma, was Nick Clegg. What became of him? 😉 Just a random comment or am I missing the link to racism, history etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 28 August, 2020 Author Share Posted 28 August, 2020 3 hours ago, whelk said: Just a random comment or am I missing the link to racism, history etc? Wes needs to get his 'Lib Dumbs' quip on as many threads as possible, in the hope that eventually he will find somebody that thinks it is amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 28 August, 2020 Share Posted 28 August, 2020 5 hours ago, whelk said: Just a random comment or am I missing the link to racism, history etc? It was difficult to know where to post it. On reflection, the news didn't warrant a new thread, as hardly anybody would be enthralled enough to care much about the party's new leader. I did consider a thread called "Sir Ed Davey and the death of the Lib Dem Party", but they are in their terminal throes of life anyway. Even a third of their own membership couldn't muster enough enthusiasm to vote in the election of their own leader. The only tenuous historical connection would be consideration of their decline from one of the two great political parties of the 19th and early 20th century into virtual political irrelevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 21 September, 2020 Share Posted 21 September, 2020 Fair play to Les Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 22 September, 2020 Share Posted 22 September, 2020 Good on QPR. Pretty much agree with everything they said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 September, 2020 Share Posted 24 September, 2020 Uncle Bens Rice is being rebranded. That's racism fixed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 24 September, 2020 Share Posted 24 September, 2020 3 hours ago, Turkish said: Uncle Bens Rice is being rebranded. That's racism fixed! Another problem solved which even the most rabid BLM protester never even mentioned in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 September, 2020 Share Posted 24 September, 2020 3 hours ago, Turkish said: Uncle Bens Rice is being rebranded. That's racism fixed! Phew. That was the one I was hoping for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 24 September, 2020 Share Posted 24 September, 2020 The Colston hall has now been renamed. Three years they've been considering a new name - long before BLM - the greatest creative minds in Bristol managed to come up with the imaginative Bristol Beacon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 25 September, 2020 Share Posted 25 September, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Turkish said: Uncle Bens Rice is being rebranded. That's racism fixed! Are they making him white? That would be a bold move Edited 25 September, 2020 by whelk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 September, 2020 Share Posted 25 September, 2020 1 hour ago, whelk said: Are they making him white? That would be a bold move Talking of which should white wine be rebranded? It's never really white is it, more a yellowy colour. It might make wine more inclusive if we abolished the racist naming convention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 25 September, 2020 Share Posted 25 September, 2020 On 24/09/2020 at 19:42, Weston Super Saint said: The Colston hall has now been renamed. Three years they've been considering a new name - long before BLM - the greatest creative minds in Bristol managed to come up with the imaginative Bristol Beacon. Isn't it just easier going forward to never name anything after someone just in case morals and values change in the distant future and they have to go through all the trouble of renaming it again? Bristol Beacon sounds like just the sort of bland, forgettable name that suits that criteria perfectly. You can have that for millennia and no one will complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 October, 2020 Share Posted 24 October, 2020 Are we all enjoying black history month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 24 October, 2020 Share Posted 24 October, 2020 1 hour ago, Turkish said: Are we all enjoying black history month? To be fair, would have expected black history month to be the perfect time for BLM marches up and down the country, but nothing... Odd really, it's almost as if it was a fad that died out really quickly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lord Duckhunter Posted 24 October, 2020 Share Posted 24 October, 2020 3 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said: To be fair, would have expected black history month to be the perfect time for BLM marches up and down the country, but nothing... Odd really, it's almost as if it was a fad that died out really quickly. Don’t worry, they’ll be back marching next spring/summer. Black lives matter, but only when when the sun is shining. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 October, 2020 Share Posted 25 October, 2020 20 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said: To be fair, would have expected black history month to be the perfect time for BLM marches up and down the country, but nothing... Odd really, it's almost as if it was a fad that died out really quickly. They’ve got a to protest about at the moment. Police brutality in Nigeria for one. I understand the Nigerian police are absolutely shamed at their own actions after seeing 20 students protesting at Southampton guildhall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 (edited) Now fairy tale of New York is homophobic Edited 19 November, 2020 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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egg Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 8 hours ago, Turkish said: Now fairy tale of New York is homophobic "Your an old slut on junk" directly labelling the woman as an old, promiscuous druggy. That lyric stays in, without comment from anyone. "your a cheap lousy faggot" has to go. In the context of the song, the fella is straight. Crazy world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, egg said: "Your an old slut on junk" directly labelling the woman as an old, promiscuous druggy. That lyric stays in, without comment from anyone. "your a cheap lousy faggot" has to go. In the context of the song, the fella is straight. Crazy world. No they are getting rid of the word slut too- blanking it out apparently. I'm not that bothered really because I don't listen to radio 1 anyway but isn't it amusing that it's the youngsters who supposedly want this censored. Sad state of the world when young people are more censorious than their parents. Edited 20 November, 2020 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 (edited) This isn't really news. This from 2018: https://www.stereogum.com/2025451/the-pogues-shane-macgowan-fairytale-of-new-york-censor/news/ "MacGowan has issued a statement to Virgin Media’s The Tonight Show addressing the lyrics. “The word was used by the character because it fitted with the way she would speak and with her character. She is not supposed to be a nice person, or even a wholesome person,” he said. “She is a woman of a certain generation at a certain time in history and she is down on her luck and desperate.” “Her dialogue is as accurate as I could make it but she is not intended to offend! She is just supposed to be an authentic character and not all characters in songs and stories are angels or even decent and respectable, sometimes characters in songs and stories have to be evil or nasty in order to tell the story effectively,” the statement continued. “If people don’t understand that I was trying to accurately portray the character as authentically as possible then I am absolutely fine with them bleeping the word but I don’t want to get into an argument.” McDermott returned to Twitter to respond to MacGowan, clarifying that no one on his team tried to get the song banned from RTÉ. “I get the dysfunctional characters and mayhem and trading of insults,” he said. “My point was we beep out relatively harmless swear words all the time on radio to appease literally everyone… So, the idea of beeping one word on daytime radio didn’t seem so radical — given this particular word packs a lot of punch for many people and is used as a powerful slur outside this song.”" Sensible explanation from MacGowan and a reasonable observation from some other geezer that, certainly during non-watershed hours, songs are censored all the time. No one is trying to stop people enjoying the original but you wouldn't have a song with loads of "niggers" or "muthafukas" left uncensored and broadcast during the daytime as entertainment - even in the context of an authentic narrative - and I don't think this is qualitatively different. Edited 20 November, 2020 by benjii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: No they are getting rid of the word slut too- blanking it out apparently. Sad times. I read something about a word in the second verse going, but couldn't see what that could be. Perhaps it was pointing to slut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 17 minutes ago, egg said: Sad times. I read something about a word in the second verse going, but couldn't see what that could be. Perhaps it was pointing to slut. Yep it's slut and faggot which they are changing to "haggard." Everyone thinks the BBC is a joke anyway so it doesn't change much. Probably hastens their demise when they do things like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 22 minutes ago, benjii said: This isn't really news. This from 2018: https://www.stereogum.com/2025451/the-pogues-shane-macgowan-fairytale-of-new-york-censor/news/ "MacGowan has issued a statement to Virgin Media’s The Tonight Show addressing the lyrics. “The word was used by the character because it fitted with the way she would speak and with her character. She is not supposed to be a nice person, or even a wholesome person,” he said. “She is a woman of a certain generation at a certain time in history and she is down on her luck and desperate.” “Her dialogue is as accurate as I could make it but she is not intended to offend! She is just supposed to be an authentic character and not all characters in songs and stories are angels or even decent and respectable, sometimes characters in songs and stories have to be evil or nasty in order to tell the story effectively,” the statement continued. “If people don’t understand that I was trying to accurately portray the character as authentically as possible then I am absolutely fine with them bleeping the word but I don’t want to get into an argument.” McDermott returned to Twitter to respond to MacGowan, clarifying that no one on his team tried to get the song banned from RTÉ. “I get the dysfunctional characters and mayhem and trading of insults,” he said. “My point was we beep out relatively harmless swear words all the time on radio to appease literally everyone… So, the idea of beeping one word on daytime radio didn’t seem so radical — given this particular word packs a lot of punch for many people and is used as a powerful slur outside this song.”" Sensible explanation from MacGowan and a reasonable observation from some other geezer that, certainly during non-watershed hours, songs are censored all the time. No one is trying to stop people enjoying the original but you wouldn't have a song with loads of "niggers" or "muthafukas" left uncensored and broadcast during the daytime as entertainment - even in the context of an authentic narrative - and I don't think this is qualitatively different. I get that but the inconsistency of focusing on "cheap lousy faggot" , whilst leaving alone "old slut on junk" directed at a woman made no sense. Slut is no less demeaning than faggot imo. It's probably only a matter of time before the ageist brigade pipe up as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 This might have been news a few years ago but with the likes of Spotify you can listen to that song within seconds uncensored if you choose to. It's hardly denying someone the opportunity to listen to the original. Modern BBC gotta modern BBC though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 26 minutes ago, egg said: I get that but the inconsistency of focusing on "cheap lousy faggot" , whilst leaving alone "old slut on junk" directed at a woman made no sense. Slut is no less demeaning than faggot imo. It's probably only a matter of time before the ageist brigade pipe up as well. When will they ban White Christmas? Surely that can be considered racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 2 hours ago, Turkish said: When will they ban White Christmas? Surely that can be considered racist. I can’t believe we have introduced Black Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 7 minutes ago, whelk said: I can’t believe we have introduced Black Friday. Black Fridays matter as well you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 3 hours ago, hypochondriac said: radio 1 anyway but isn't it amusing that it's the youngsters who supposedly want this censored yet radio 1 play music which blurts out music with 'bitch' n 'hoes' etc later in the evenings which is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 You lads must have been fuming when the BBC banned Frankie Goes To Hollywood’s ‘Relax’ in 1984. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 30 minutes ago, whelk said: I can’t believe we have introduced Black Friday. Quite, if anything is racist it's using the word black to label something being sold cheaply, using the colour to devalue the product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 1 minute ago, wadesmith said: You lads must have been fuming when the BBC banned Frankie Goes To Hollywood’s ‘Relax’ in 1984. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 Just now, Turkish said: Why? Well you seem unhappy about the latest ban..so why wouldn’t you have been unhappy 36 years ago? Assuming you were around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 8 minutes ago, wadesmith said: Well you seem unhappy about the latest ban..so why wouldn’t you have been unhappy 36 years ago? Assuming you were around. Nah, 'Relax' was a shit song. Banning it did everyone a favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Nah, 'Relax' was a shit song. Banning it did everyone a favour. At least there only censoring Fairytale, rather than banning the whole song. I guess people were a bit more delicate back in 1984! Edited 20 November, 2020 by wadesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, wadesmith said: Well you seem unhappy about the latest ban..so why wouldn’t you have been unhappy 36 years ago? Assuming you were around. Not sure what point you're trying to make, i wasn't angry when they banned Ebeneezer Goode if you're suggesting that any ban should be something to get angry about. Edited 20 November, 2020 by Turkish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 20 November, 2020 Author Share Posted 20 November, 2020 15 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Nah, 'Relax' was a shit song. Banning it did everyone a favour. It was just Mike Read getting precious because he objected to having homo-erotic leather gear paraded on TOTP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 FG2H were the ultimate winners anyway as I seem to recall their shit song was number one for weeks! No such thing as bad publicity 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 On 18/06/2020 at 12:42, aintforever said: It's great how the Football clubs, players and officials have all shown their support for Black Lives Matter. It's not just about being anti-racist, it's actually showing it that makes a difference. How are we getting on, can we declare racism extinct now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 19 February, 2021 Share Posted 19 February, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 19 February, 2021 Share Posted 19 February, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Cat said: That makes perfect sense. I'd imagine that we'll still get some white blokes telling us he's wrong though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 February, 2021 Share Posted 19 February, 2021 19 minutes ago, The Cat said: He spot on. Brentford team won’t be doing it now either. The charade is coming to an end thankfully 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 February, 2021 Share Posted 19 February, 2021 On 08/01/2021 at 13:05, Weston Super Saint said: How are we getting on, can we declare racism extinct now? Poor old aintclever so happy to applaud this one yet loads coming out now say how pointless it is. Guess it didn’t make the difference he told us it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 19 February, 2021 Share Posted 19 February, 2021 29 minutes ago, Turkish said: Poor old aintclever so happy to applaud this one yet loads coming out now say how pointless it is. Guess it didn’t make the difference he told us it was. It clearly bothered loads of angry white men and there was time in its infancy that sent a message. Now absolutely run it’s course and had done months ago IMO. No one had the balls to say time up though for fear of being pilloried. The fact that it may stop doesn’t mean it never should have started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 19 February, 2021 Share Posted 19 February, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Turkish said: Poor old aintclever so happy to applaud this one yet loads coming out now say how pointless it is. Guess it didn’t make the difference he told us it was. Fucking hell, you're like my own little stalker! PM me your address and I will send you a signed photo and a pair of my used pants if you want? Edited 19 February, 2021 by aintforever 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 19 February, 2021 Share Posted 19 February, 2021 1 hour ago, whelk said: It clearly bothered loads of angry white men and there was time in its infancy that sent a message. Now absolutely run it’s course and had done months ago IMO. No one had the balls to say time up though for fear of being pilloried. The fact that it may stop doesn’t mean it never should have started. Sadly, I think that was always the motivation for a section of society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 February, 2021 Share Posted 19 February, 2021 3 hours ago, aintforever said: Fucking hell, you're like my own little stalker! PM me your address and I will send you a signed photo and a pair of my used pants if you want? Not really a stalker hun, more of a case of chat shit get banged bruv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 19 February, 2021 Share Posted 19 February, 2021 22 minutes ago, Turkish said: Not really a stalker hun, more of a case of chat shit get banged bruv. Is that a no to the pants then? Would give you something to sniff while you follow me round the message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 February, 2021 Share Posted 19 February, 2021 33 minutes ago, aintforever said: Is that a no to the pants then? Would give you something to sniff while you follow me round the message board. You offered them before, i declined then too, the amount of shit you come out with going anywhere near your pants is a dangerous game hun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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