Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 West Ham didn’t exactly bust a gut. Keeper awful for the goal. But it’s a long season & the worst 3 go down.
whelk Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 Anyone would think Eddie Howe was manager of the season and have pick of what job he likes if you listen to Sky. He took them from 3rd to a spineless relegation team who had a little surge at the end. Culpable
SaintBobby Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 Villa probably just about deserved to stay up. Assuming they sell Grealish, I guess a lot hinges for them next year on how they reinvest that cash.
Lighthouse Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 Man City with their 5th 5-0 win since the restart (if you include Liverpool) 😮
mikec Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 Scoring 3 to win at Everton but still getting relegated. That will sound familiar to Saints fans of a certain age. 1
View From The Top Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 1 hour ago, whelk said: Anyone would think Eddie Howe was manager of the season and have pick of what job he likes if you listen to Sky. He took them from 3rd to a spineless relegation team who had a little surge at the end. Culpable And spent an absolute fortune too.
beatlesaint Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 1 hour ago, whelk said: Anyone would think Eddie Howe was manager of the season and have pick of what job he likes if you listen to Sky. He took them from 3rd to a spineless relegation team who had a little surge at the end. Culpable And had five seasons to sort out a defence. Over 60 goals conceded each season, it’s not like the warning signs weren’t there and he didn’t address them.
Chocolate Box Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 27 minutes ago, mikec said: Scoring 3 to win at Everton but still getting relegated. That will sound familiar to Saints fans of a certain age. Aint that the truth!
Baird of the land Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 Villa lucky in the end with who they played at the end. Watford, any team that has 4 managers in a season deserves to go down.
Matthew Le God Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 2 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Villa lucky in the end with who they played at the end. That isn't luck, they still had to play the same games as Watford over the season.
S-Clarke Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 5 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: That isn't luck, they still had to play the same games as Watford over the season. I'd say it's luck that Sheffield United goal didn't stand, so yes, they were lucky in the end.
Lighthouse Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I'd say it's luck that Sheffield United goal didn't stand, so yes, they were lucky in the end. If you go down, it’s because you’ve been sh*te for 38 games. No amount of luck will will explain away how bad Watford and Bournemouth have been this season. The fact that a dreadful Villa team beat them by a point is their own fault. Besides, I’d say Bruno Fernandes somehow winning a penalty instead of being sent off against Villa pretty much evens things up. 1
Matthew Le God Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 6 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I'd say it's luck that Sheffield United goal didn't stand, so yes, they were lucky in the end. Luck isn't a thing that exists. It is an excuse people use.
Lighthouse Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 Just now, Matthew Le God said: Luck isn't a thing that exists. It is an excuse people use. Tell that to people in casinos and lottery winners.
bpsaint Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 5 minutes ago, Archers Road Stand said: Oops Brilliant, that’s up there with that tweet from that guy who reckoned Bournemouth were the next level up from Saints and we weren’t even a threat to them.
djharvey Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 27 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Luck isn't a thing that exists. It is an excuse people use.
ErwinK1961 Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 33 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: If you go down, it’s because you’ve been sh*te for 38 games. No amount of luck will will explain away how bad Watford and Bournemouth have been this season. The fact that a dreadful Villa team beat them by a point is their own fault. Besides, I’d say Bruno Fernandes somehow winning a penalty instead of being sent off against Villa pretty much evens things up. And their equaliser at Palace when Grealish was fouled and Kevin Friend blew for a dive...
SaintBobby Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 There’s always going to be a slice of luck one way or another and it can be decisive, of course. The aim has to be that you’re skilful enough that a slice of bad luck doesn’t matter. Bournemouth & Watford weren’t.
Baird of the land Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 40 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Luck isn't a thing that exists. It is an excuse people use. Of course luck exists, that doesn’t mean teams that are relegated haven’t done plenty to put themselves in that situation over the course of the season too.
striker Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 Don't forget their goal in added time that was disallowed against us 2 matches ago. If that stood they would still be in the PL because they would have got a draw likely
Badger Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 1 hour ago, mikec said: Scoring 3 to win at Everton but still getting relegated. That will sound familiar to Saints fans of a certain age. Very. Remember that day well. Norwich went down that season as well.
Whitey Grandad Posted 26 July, 2020 Posted 26 July, 2020 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: Luck isn't a thing that exists. It is an excuse people use. Troo dat. In ancient times people blamed the gods. You never heard the Romans complaining about bad luck. One of those gods went by the name of Fortuna.
skintsaint Posted 27 July, 2020 Posted 27 July, 2020 Reina looked awful for that goal. Reminded me of Shilton in 1990. So slow.
Baird of the land Posted 27 July, 2020 Posted 27 July, 2020 Garth Crooks really put some thought into his team of the season, not
Saint Garrett Posted 27 July, 2020 Posted 27 July, 2020 10 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Garth Crooks really put some thought into his team of the season, not Maguire,...lol
Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 July, 2020 Posted 27 July, 2020 9 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Garth Crooks really put some thought into his team of the season, not Can’t see much wrong with that side. What’s your point? That Ward Prowse or Bednarek should be in it?
beatlesaint Posted 27 July, 2020 Posted 27 July, 2020 3 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Maguire,...lol Yeah ridiculous, hes been like a bloody great cart horse a lot of the time. One of those Sheff Utd centre backs would have been a better bet or just go the whole hog and stick Gomez in there
OldNick Posted 27 July, 2020 Posted 27 July, 2020 19 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Can’t see much wrong with that side. What’s your point? That Ward Prowse or Bednarek should be in it? Who takes notice of Garth Crooks anyway? He is the biggest clown pundit around and is only there for multi cultural reasons IMO
Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 July, 2020 Posted 27 July, 2020 17 minutes ago, OldNick said: Who takes notice of Garth Crooks anyway? He is the biggest clown pundit around and is only there for multi cultural reasons IMO Agreed. But there’s not much wrong with the side he picked. Maybe a couple, but nobody’s going to pick a side everyone agrees with. The poster makes out Crooks is totally out of sync. He’s not on this one.
aintforever Posted 27 July, 2020 Posted 27 July, 2020 35 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Agreed. But there’s not much wrong with the side he picked. Maybe a couple, but nobody’s going to pick a side everyone agrees with. The poster makes out Crooks is totally out of sync. He’s not on this one. Except Maguire has been complete sh!te.
Baird of the land Posted 27 July, 2020 Posted 27 July, 2020 1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Can’t see much wrong with that side. What’s your point? That Ward Prowse or Bednarek should be in it? It's a highly lazy effort. Maguire been pretty average, certainly not in best 2 centre backs imo. 16 clean sheets for Pope at Burnley seems much more impressive to me than Ederson getting 17 at City If I was to argue for any saints inclusion it would be Ings 22 for us is more impressive than Aubameyang's for Arsenal
trousers Posted 27 July, 2020 Posted 27 July, 2020 (edited) duplicate Edited 27 July, 2020 by trousers
trousers Posted 27 July, 2020 Posted 27 July, 2020 Despite the Saints tinted glasses, there is definitely a case for rating Ings higher than Vardy, Aubameyang and Mane in the striker department:Open-play goals Ings 21Aubameyang 20 Vardy 19 Mane 18Minutes per goal (all goals, incl pens) Ings 128Vardy 132Aubameyang 143 Mane 153 Plus it ought to be taken into account how much better Ings needed to be given he wasn't in a top 6 side. (although, of course, Ings's form kicked in at around the same point in the season where we transformed into a top 6 performing side)
CB Fry Posted 27 July, 2020 Posted 27 July, 2020 (edited) It's ridiculous to unilaterally decide that penalties should be disregarded when we know that: a) Danny Ings had said he doesn't like taking them so he chose not to build his own tally by taking on the responsibility and letting JWP do it b) he took one of the worst penalties of the entire season only a couple of weeks ago, proving that they aren't the guaranteed goal some might see them as. Well done Jamie Vardy and what a great season Danny Ings. Edited 27 July, 2020 by CB Fry
trousers Posted 27 July, 2020 Posted 27 July, 2020 1 minute ago, CB Fry said: It's ridiculous to unilaterally decide that penalties should be disregarded I am barking mad though so don't forget to take that into account when judging people
CB Fry Posted 27 July, 2020 Posted 27 July, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, trousers said: I am barking mad though so don't forget to take that into account when judging people You'd decided several weeks ago that twelfth or eleventh qualified as you being proven right about a top half finish so am aware you are somewhat loose with the old numberinos. Edited 27 July, 2020 by CB Fry
trousers Posted 27 July, 2020 Posted 27 July, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, CB Fry said: You'd decided several weeks ago that twelfth or eleventh qualified as you being proven right about a top half finish so am aware you are somewhat lose with the old numberinos. I'm totally bonkers, let's face it (it's 'loose' btw.... ) Edited 27 July, 2020 by trousers
alehouseboys Posted 27 July, 2020 Posted 27 July, 2020 I did have a wry smile at Honest 'arry's interview on the Beeb as he lamented the Cherries' demise but forgot to add it was his beloved 'ammers that more or less sent them down with another effortless display against Villa.
Dark Munster Posted 27 July, 2020 Posted 27 July, 2020 7 hours ago, trousers said: I'm totally bonkers, let's face it (it's 'loose' btw.... ) Usually people get it wrong the other way around: "I think we'll loose this weekend."
SaintBobby Posted 29 July, 2020 Posted 29 July, 2020 Penalties is a weird one. Would be odd to win the golden boot if your team somehow got 15 or so penalties and you scored them all with just a handful of goals from open play. But you can't just discount penalties scored. If Vardy scores 2 out of 2 and Ings 1 out of 2, you would have to give the award to Vardy if they were otherwise tied for goals.
OttawaSaint Posted 29 July, 2020 Posted 29 July, 2020 On 27/07/2020 at 08:14, trousers said: I'm totally bonkers, let's face it Ignoring the punditry of Robbie Savage and our very own forum experts. Crazy I say!
bpsaint Posted 29 July, 2020 Posted 29 July, 2020 Swansea trying to get promoted in what looks like the kit we sent them down in! Looks like Brentford have found their bottle again after the last few games, Fulham v Brentford final would suit me, both decent away trips
GarrettIvo Posted 29 July, 2020 Posted 29 July, 2020 Let's go Brentford! That should be Swansea done for now. Couldn't find three more boring promotion candidates than Swansea, Fulham, and Cardiff.
CB Fry Posted 29 July, 2020 Posted 29 July, 2020 13 minutes ago, GarrettIvo said: Let's go Brentford! That should be Swansea done for now. Couldn't find three more boring promotion candidates than Swansea, Fulham, and Cardiff. Agree. Hopefully they've got the monkey off their back now and can go on and get promoted.
Jimmy_D Posted 29 July, 2020 Posted 29 July, 2020 Oof, bad defensive mistake there. Now it's an interesting game...
whelk Posted 29 July, 2020 Posted 29 July, 2020 What’s Brentford new ground capacity going to be? as long as no Welsh team gets promoted wil, be happy. Mick McCartthy mustn’t understand what he is watching with this nice slick football
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