Farmer Saint Posted 10 July, 2023 Share Posted 10 July, 2023 Bloody hell - this has all gone a bit sideways! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 10 July, 2023 Share Posted 10 July, 2023 29 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Only a matter of time before GB News go for broke and just name him. As long as all they say is "xxxx is under investigation by the BBC" I can't really see how they can be sued or stopped. By the time there is an Ofcom investigation or whatever, it will be known that what they said was true. Every single person reading the news knows who it is. The dam will break very quickly. There was a Supreme Court judgement last year that ruled that publishing accusations against an individual before they had been charged was a breach of privacy and could result in legal action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 10 July, 2023 Share Posted 10 July, 2023 1 hour ago, ecuk268 said: There was a Supreme Court judgement last year that ruled that publishing accusations against an individual before they had been charged was a breach of privacy and could result in legal action. Fair enough, until the 6pm news I was expecting a GB News maverick to blab it, or a John Leslie "accidental" reveal, I think that nearly happened yesterday. Anyway, newspapers printing dubious stories and declining to print a "right of reply" denial even though they had it is pretty bloody bad as well. No doubt all those that were full of self righteous indignation about the BBC will be absolutely furious with the Sun now. Won't they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 10 July, 2023 Share Posted 10 July, 2023 Well I wasn't far wrong...nearly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 July, 2023 Share Posted 11 July, 2023 (edited) So reading between the lines with the latest rumours, it seems that the person in question spent a load of money on an only fans model whose parents are saying was 17 (but you have to be 18 to sign up on the site.) Even if he did pay all that money, I think it's going to be pretty difficult to prove illegality, particularly with the alleged victim saying that nothing illegal happened. His career is obviously over but I can't see him being prosecuted unless they have proof she was underage and he was requesting pictures. I feel very sorry for his wife and five children. Edited 11 July, 2023 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 11 July, 2023 Share Posted 11 July, 2023 2 hours ago, hypochondriac said: So reading between the lines with the latest rumours, it seems that the person in question spent a load of money on an only fans model whose parents are saying was 17 (but you have to be 18 to sign up on the site.) Even if he did pay all that money, I think it's going to be pretty difficult to prove illegality, particularly with the alleged victim saying that nothing illegal happened. His career is obviously over but I can't see him being prosecuted unless they have proof she was underage and he was requesting pictures. I feel very sorry for his wife and five children. If that is the case then why should their career be over? Don’t need to be a paragon of virtue. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone and in effect looking at porn via Only Fans is no where near a career ending offence IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 July, 2023 Share Posted 11 July, 2023 Just now, whelk said: If that is the case then why should their career be over? Don’t need to be a paragon of virtue. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone and in effect looking at porn via Only Fans is no where near a career ending offence IMO I can't see a scenario where his public persona has been damaged to such an extent that he can continue in his current role. The public will have a view. Lets see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 11 July, 2023 Share Posted 11 July, 2023 2 hours ago, hypochondriac said: So reading between the lines with the latest rumours, it seems that the person in question spent a load of money on an only fans model whose parents are saying was 17 (but you have to be 18 to sign up on the site.) Even if he did pay all that money, I think it's going to be pretty difficult to prove illegality, particularly with the alleged victim saying that nothing illegal happened. His career is obviously over but I can't see him being prosecuted unless they have proof she was underage and he was requesting pictures. I feel very sorry for his wife and five children. If the person's parents are saying that the person was 17 and the person is saying nothing illegal happened, then there is no chance of proving illegality. Immorality on the other hand - especially from a representative of the BBC - will certainly damage the presenters career, especailly if they've lied about it to try and cover it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 July, 2023 Share Posted 11 July, 2023 10 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: If the person's parents are saying that the person was 17 and the person is saying nothing illegal happened, then there is no chance of proving illegality. Immorality on the other hand - especially from a representative of the BBC - will certainly damage the presenters career, especailly if they've lied about it to try and cover it up That's my point. He will lose his position of authority and trust in the eyes of the public so I can't see how he can continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 11 July, 2023 Share Posted 11 July, 2023 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: That's my point. He will lose his position of authority and trust in the eyes of the public so I can't see how he can continue. Unless we never find out who it is (officially). Then they can carry on as normal - like they have since the beginning of May 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 July, 2023 Share Posted 11 July, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Unless we never find out who it is (officially). Then they can carry on as normal - like they have since the beginning of May Well it will become more farcical the longer they avoid naming him whilst he doesn't show up on telly. Particularly if it's someone who is on TV regularly. Edited 11 July, 2023 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 11 July, 2023 Share Posted 11 July, 2023 More allegations from a separate girl starting to surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 11 July, 2023 Share Posted 11 July, 2023 2 hours ago, Toadhall Saint said: More allegations from a separate girl starting to surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 11 July, 2023 Share Posted 11 July, 2023 2 hours ago, Toadhall Saint said: More allegations from a separate girl starting to surface. Rumours I’m reading are it’s not a girl at all……. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 11 July, 2023 Share Posted 11 July, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Rumours I’m reading are it’s not a girl at all……. Girls aren't every married man's preferred cup of tea. Edited 11 July, 2023 by egg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 11 July, 2023 Share Posted 11 July, 2023 34 minutes ago, egg said: Girls aren't every married man's preferred cup of tea. Lord D says aye to that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 11 July, 2023 Share Posted 11 July, 2023 A twitter Political news site (that I'd never seen before) have gone all in and named the guy in question, labelling it as an "exclusive" story.... On top of that, now there's a third bloody story, they've managed to get a Covid angle. It can't be long before he outs himself, probably with an "I've been such a fool" interview with the Daily Mail or Mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, CB Fry said: A twitter Political news site (that I'd never seen before) have gone all in and named the guy in question, labelling it as an "exclusive" story.... On top of that, now there's a third bloody story, they've managed to get a Covid angle. It can't be long before he outs himself, probably with an "I've been such a fool" interview with the Daily Mail or Mirror. This morning there is a 4th person who claims they were contacted when they were at school Edited 12 July, 2023 by AlexLaw76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: This morning there is a 4th person who claims they were contacted when they were at school You’ve taken your time. You will lose your post as Noncewatch General if you aren’t careful Batman. I’m very disappointed that you haven’t already posted the picture of HE’s arse cheeks. You’re standards are definitely slipping. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 3 hours ago, sadoldgit said: You’ve taken your time. You will lose your post as Noncewatch General if you aren’t careful Batman. I’m very disappointed that you haven’t already posted the picture of HE’s arse cheeks. You’re standards are definitely slipping. Is this a picture you have seen??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Is this a picture you have seen??? Must be. But I imagine it was sent privately via a 'dating' app.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, CB Fry said: It can't be long before he outs himself, probably with an "I've been such a fool" interview with the Daily Mail or Mirror. Edited 12 July, 2023 by Raging Bull 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 Met Police say nothing criminal has occurred, and no further investigation will take place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 19 October, 2023 Author Share Posted 19 October, 2023 Add to the list anti-Semitic reporting and a failure to call Hamas "terrorists" and the Beeb will soon be going the way of many of the ghastly paedophiles they overpaid, with our money. What a horrible organisation they have become. Defund, now! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 9 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: Add to the list anti-Semitic reporting and a failure to call Hamas "terrorists" and the Beeb will soon be going the way of many of the ghastly paedophiles they overpaid, with our money. What a horrible organisation they have become. Defund, now! How do you think ITV are doing, out of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 19 October, 2023 Author Share Posted 19 October, 2023 2 hours ago, Fan The Flames said: How do you think ITV are doing, out of interest? 2 hours ago, Fan The Flames said: How do you think ITV are doing, out of interest? What they want as I don't pay a license fee to them. Now, Channel 4.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 27 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: What they want as I don't pay a license fee to them. Now, Channel 4.... So, as you pay a licence fee you want to dictate what the BBC can say and how they say it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 3 hours ago, Guided Missile said: Add to the list anti-Semitic reporting and a failure to call Hamas "terrorists" and the Beeb will soon be going the way of many of the ghastly paedophiles they overpaid, with our money. What a horrible organisation they have become. Defund, now! https://metro.co.uk/2023/10/17/bbc-apology-hamas-pro-palestine-demonstrations-israel-gaza-latest-19678589/ Seems they can't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: So, as you pay a licence fee you want to dictate what the BBC can say and how they say it ? Sums up GM well. A bully who acts like a spoiled kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 It is both very strange and funny reading replies of people defending the Licence Fee in the year of our lord, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 2 hours ago, Guided Missile said: What they want as I don't pay a license fee to them. Now, Channel 4.... Thought so, carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 25 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: It is both very strange and funny reading replies of people defending the Licence Fee in the year of our lord, 2023 I have no problem with it. HTH. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 37 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: It is both very strange and funny reading replies of people defending the Licence Fee in the year of our lord, 2023 Love it, such good value for money. If it aint broke and all that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 59 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: It is both very strange and funny reading replies of people defending the Licence Fee in the year of our lord, 2023 It’s people stuck in the last century. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said: It’s people stuck in the last century. Or people who don't have their heads stuck up their own arses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 5 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Or people who don't have their heads stuck up their own arses. imagine if you were forced to pay for a Daily Mail subscription every month...Im sure your view would be very different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: imagine if you were forced to pay for a Daily Mail subscription every month...Im sure your view would be very different It is great value for money, especially if paying it pisses off wankers like you. Edited 19 October, 2023 by aintforever 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 13 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: imagine if you were forced to pay for a Daily Mail subscription every month...Im sure your view would be very different Depends if it works out cheaper than toilet rolls. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: imagine if you were forced to pay for a Daily Mail subscription every month...Im sure your view would be very different The BBC is impartial. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: imagine if you were forced to pay for a Daily Mail subscription every month...Im sure your view would be very different What about having to pay for the King that most don't want. Or having to pay for GB News just because you want a football channel. Or me having to pay for my wives pasta when I fucking hate spaghetti bolognese. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 20 minutes ago, Fan The Flames said: What about having to pay for the King that most don't want. Or having to pay for GB News just because you want a football channel. Or me having to pay for my wives pasta when I fucking hate spaghetti bolognese. He’s a lot cheaper than having a President. Anyway, how do you know that ‘most don’t want’ a king? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Guided Missile said: Add to the list anti-Semitic reporting and a failure to call Hamas "terrorists" and the Beeb will soon be going the way of many of the ghastly paedophiles they overpaid, with our money. What a horrible organisation they have become. Defund, now! Given that complaints about bias reporting in this conflict are running about 50/50 so far I would say that the BBC are doing a pretty good job tip toeing through the various sensibilities of the viewing public. They have made the point several times that as an international broadcasting company they have to be seen as being impartial. Several countries (including some in Europe) do not refer to Hamas as a terrorist organisation. Every day in the news reports I have seen by the BBC they make the point that the UK government view Hamas as a terrorist organisation. Seems reasonable to me. Yes, the paedo stuff was pretty grim. Those of us around at the time will remember that a blind eye was turned to many things that are not acceptable today. Drink driving for one was rife back in the 70’s. You don’t have to go much further than the Benny Hill show to see that a chubby middle aged man chasing you women in their undies was prime time family entertainment. Did you boycott the Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, David Bowie or John Peel? Members of those bands and the latter two were open about having sex with under aged girls at the time. It wasn’t just the BBC turning a blind eye. 2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: imagine if you were forced to pay for a Daily Mail subscription every month...Im sure your view would be very different Only you would attempt to conflate the Daily Mail with the BBC 🙄. As you well know, one is owned by a very rich man who uses it to support his right wing ideology and the Tory government. The other is an independent public broadcasting service of world renown. I can’t believe for one minute that you have never watched or listened to any output from the BBC. Even if you don’t now, as pointed out, we all pay for lots of public services that we don’t use. I don’t see you complaining about that. This country would be a lot poorer without the BBC and if you don’t use any of its content then more fool you (but thanks for your selfless annual contributions so that the rest of us can). Edited 19 October, 2023 by sadoldgit Added text 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: It’s people stuck in the last century. That's you though isn't it? I may be mistaken but you're the one who talks about women as "birds"? Tremendous self aware irony if intended though! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 19 October, 2023 Author Share Posted 19 October, 2023 1 hour ago, Fan The Flames said: The BBC is impartial. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 55 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: He’s a lot cheaper than having a President. Anyway, how do you know that ‘most don’t want’ a king? I was being provocative. Seeing as you took my bite, I'll take yours; how can a president be more expensive than a king with all the hanger ons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 5 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: And we're stuck in the last century 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 4 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: It’s people stuck in the last century. Sums you up Duckie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Guided Missile said: Add to the list anti-Semitic reporting and a failure to call Hamas "terrorists" and the Beeb will soon be going the way of many of the ghastly paedophiles they overpaid, with our money. What a horrible organisation they have become. Defund, now! ‘Jimmy Savile, he’s one of your own’. Jimmy was more of a Conservative than anything else at heart. So you may have supported him twice with a Conservative Party membership and the BBC. You mug, if you did. Jimmy got a knighthood out of it too. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revealed-jimmy-savile-s-close-friendship-with-margaret-thatcher-8432351.html PS - Hamas clearly are a terrorist organisation, and their actions absolutely appalling, but I don’t need the aid of broadcasters to spell it out in primary colours for me. Nor should the situation be used to further an already pathetic culture war imported from Trump and Bannon (yes Daily Mail, I’m looking at you). Edited 19 October, 2023 by Gloucester Saint 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Guided Missile said: What they want as I don't pay a license fee to them. Now, Channel 4.... Which the hard right still wanted to privatise (and failed) as too liberal and not compliant enough with a Steve Bannon-inspired culture war unlike GBeebies, Mail or Murdoch empire. https://www.channel4.com/news/channel-4-privatisation-plans-scrapped-in-government-u-turn Edited 19 October, 2023 by Gloucester Saint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 19 October, 2023 Share Posted 19 October, 2023 It’s on its last legs anyway. It’s not sustainable to charge a compulsory poll tax to watch TV in the second quarter of the 21st century. Eventually they’ll have to make it a subscription service & cut off people who don’t pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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