jawillwill Posted 7 May, 2020 Share Posted 7 May, 2020 I've just stumbled across this footage of an old match between Sheffield United and Bury, which led me on a trail of related footage: But I haven't found anything that dates back anywhere near as far in relation to Saints. Anyone know if anything exists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 7 May, 2020 Share Posted 7 May, 2020 When did we decide to stop wearing hats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintquin Posted 7 May, 2020 Share Posted 7 May, 2020 That can't be right. That video was dated 90 years before football was invented! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 7 May, 2020 Share Posted 7 May, 2020 I've just stumbled across this footage of an old match between Sheffield United and Bury, which led me on a trail of related footage: But I haven't found anything that dates back anywhere near as far in relation to Saints. Anyone know if anything exists? It's not TV footage though. Newsreels record parts of Big matches long before TV, trouble is Saints weren't involved in any big matches. Newsreels wouldn't vae covered the Southern League or Third Division South. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 May, 2020 Share Posted 7 May, 2020 [h=2]Oldest TV footage of Saints[/h] I've just stumbled across this footage of an old match between Sheffield United and Bury, which led me on a trail of related footage: But I haven't found anything that dates back anywhere near as far in relation to Saints. Anyone know if anything exists? 1902 is a long time before TV existed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 May, 2020 Share Posted 7 May, 2020 It's not TV footage though. Newsreels record parts of Big matches long before TV, trouble is Saints weren't involved in any big matches. Newsreels wouldn't vae covered the Southern League or Third Division South. Yes they were... - FA Cup finals in 1900 & 1902 - FA Cup semi finals in 1898, 1900, 1902, 1908, 1925, 1927 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 7 May, 2020 Share Posted 7 May, 2020 Would the matches between the winners of the Football League and the winners of the Southern League have been filmed? We were in a few of those back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 7 May, 2020 Share Posted 7 May, 2020 Yes they were... - FA Cup finals in 1900 & 1902 - FA Cup semi finals in 1898, 1900, 1902, 1908, 1925, 1927 Semi-finals would probably not have been classed as "big matches" in those days in terms of newsreels (The Final and maybe some high profile internationals), but I suppose 1925 and 27 might have had some live action filming. As far as I know there is no footage of the 1900 or 1902 finals, both years are still extremely early in the history of "moving pictures", which really only started in 1899. Newsreels were not invented until 1911 by Charles Pathe. The footage of Sheff Utd v Bury in 1902 is quite remarkable, and only seemingly exists because of some pioneering work by Mitchell and Kenyon who were based in Blackburn. I was aware of the fact that we were in those games, some people say I may have actually attended some of them, but they would be wide of the mark by a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 May, 2020 Share Posted 7 May, 2020 FA Cup Semi final 1927 [video=youtube;xAo-aA6T5n4] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 7 May, 2020 Share Posted 7 May, 2020 FA Cup Semi final 1927 [video=youtube;xAo-aA6T5n4] Is it just me eyes or did they play without a ball in those days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 7 May, 2020 Share Posted 7 May, 2020 There is footage of Saints win over Liverpool in the FA Cup 1925 around, the BFI were advertising it back in the 80s I remember. I have colour footage of Saints playing Leeds at Elland Rd 1948 which I bought from a private collector. I think it must be the first of Saints in colour. I lent it to the Sea City Museum during the exhibition and they showed it on a loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philelec Posted 10 May, 2020 Share Posted 10 May, 2020 I have just read that 44 years ago today Saints beat MU to win the cup, any videos of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 10 May, 2020 Share Posted 10 May, 2020 I have just read that 44 years ago today Saints beat MU to win the cup, any videos of this? Are you sure? 10th May 1976 was a Monday. Don't remember it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 10 May, 2020 Share Posted 10 May, 2020 Are you sure? 10th May 1976 was a Monday. Don't remember it. It was only 9 days after May 1st, I’m not sure any Saints fan that was around back then will have any memory of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 May, 2020 Share Posted 10 May, 2020 It was only 9 days after May 1st, I’m not sure any Saints fan that was around back then will have any memory of it But we still had Channon's testimonial on a Monday straight after the cup win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 10 May, 2020 Share Posted 10 May, 2020 But we still had Channon's testimonial on a Monday straight after the cup win. That I struggle to remember. Bunked off school at 10.45am and got down to the County Ground for a Hampshire 1 day game. Straight in the bar and didn't leave until after 4pm when someone said the queue at The Dell had started. They opened the gates just after we got there and we had the bar in the corner under the West Stand to keep us amused. The game? Feck knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 10 May, 2020 Share Posted 10 May, 2020 That I struggle to remember. Bunked off school at 10.45am and got down to the County Ground for a Hampshire 1 day game. Straight in the bar and didn't leave until after 4pm when someone said the queue at The Dell had started. They opened the gates just after we got there and we had the bar in the corner under the West Stand to keep us amused. The game? Feck knows. Amazed I got into The Dell for that match. Lived in Reading at the time. Travelled down with a mate and his Dad, leaving about 3.45 after school. Not sure what time we got down there with the traffic but hellish queues outside. Got in, quite a crush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 10 May, 2020 Share Posted 10 May, 2020 didn't leave until after 4pm when someone said the queue at The Dell had started We joined a long queue for ‘under the West’ at around lunchtime. The gates were locked long before kick-off with thousands locked outside, loads still got in by being inventive. Then many more once they opened the gates like they always did, 10-15 mins before the final whistle but nobody left, just thousands more piled in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted 10 May, 2020 Share Posted 10 May, 2020 1934 training with British Pathe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted 10 May, 2020 Share Posted 10 May, 2020 1934 match against Brentford https://www.britishpathe.com/video/saints-v-bees/query/southampton+football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenilworthy Posted 10 May, 2020 Share Posted 10 May, 2020 1934 match against Brentford https://www.britishpathe.com/video/saints-v-bees/query/southampton+football That is some of the best quality footage I have seen from that era Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 11 May, 2020 Share Posted 11 May, 2020 We joined a long queue for ‘under the West’ at around lunchtime. The gates were locked long before kick-off with thousands locked outside, loads still got in by being inventive. Then many more once they opened the gates like they always did, 10-15 mins before the final whistle but nobody left, just thousands more piled in. Yep, I was one of those. Queued for ages and gates were locked about 10 yards from us, so we walked around the outside of the ground, and saw a few fans scaling the walls so followed suit. Was just behind the touchline. Apparently more than twice the normal maximum crowd got in. I put a few quid in the charity bucket, but think it was the ambulance service as I could not see one for the game itself. Brilliant game and the players enjoyed it as well - great banter with the fans during throw-ins, corners etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 11 May, 2020 Share Posted 11 May, 2020 Yep, I was one of those. Queued for ages and gates were locked about 10 yards from us, so we walked around the outside of the ground, and saw a few fans scaling the walls so followed suit. Was just behind the touchline. Apparently more than twice the normal maximum crowd got in. I put a few quid in the charity bucket, but think it was the ambulance service as I could not see one for the game itself. Brilliant game and the players enjoyed it as well - great banter with the fans during throw-ins, corners etc. My old man was a docker and some of his dockie mates were stewards (there was a special 'dockers gate' at the Dell). They said they were overwhelmed with the numbers outside, some were already getting in by 'other' means with the gates open that's why the official attendance was recorded as under 30,000 clicks on the turnstiles. Everyone was in buoyant mood and happy to let kids (and others) go through 2 at a time (although not particularly unusual) but it was getting obvious the ground was over-full before the cut-off figure was reached. And then of course, many more got in as the game went on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 11 May, 2020 Share Posted 11 May, 2020 My old man was a docker and some of his dockie mates were stewards (there was a special 'dockers gate' at the Dell). They said they were overwhelmed with the numbers outside, some were already getting in by 'other' means with the gates open that's why the official attendance was recorded as under 30,000 clicks on the turnstiles. Everyone was in buoyant mood and happy to let kids (and others) go through 2 at a time (although not particularly unusual) but it was getting obvious the ground was over-full before the cut-off figure was reached. And then of course, many more got in as the game went on. Was this the Ease Stand/Milton Road corner ? I recall that being referred to as the 'Dockers enclosure' a few times. There used to be a good crowd in standing just in front of the bar in that area, language was more 'colourful' than anywhere else in the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 May, 2020 Share Posted 11 May, 2020 Was this the Ease Stand/Milton Road corner ? I recall that being referred to as the 'Dockers enclosure' a few times. There used to be a good crowd in standing just in front of the bar in that area, language was more 'colourful' than anywhere else in the ground. Wasn't that the West Stand -Milton Corner by the player's tunnel ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 11 May, 2020 Share Posted 11 May, 2020 (edited) Wasn't that the West Stand -Milton Corner by the player's tunnel ? Might have been as well at one point but I'm specifically referring to East/Milton corner. I've stood on both at different times. West c Branfoot years/early 90's when it was vocal, esp lots of singing, jumping up and down etc. My recollection of the East predates that by some years, late 70's when those standing there were a bit, and some a lot older, many donkey jackets rather than designer wear. Blokes there would probably have seen the later lower West Stand antics as mere nippers fooling about. Big difference seemed to me that West Stand used to sing about 'kicking heads in' (as the songs went in those days), Lower East didn't sing about it but always looked ready for a punch up if anyone stepped out of line or away fans tried to make their way to the small bar from the Archers Road End (no real segregation at the time). Edited 11 May, 2020 by Badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 11 May, 2020 Share Posted 11 May, 2020 Wasn't that the West Stand -Milton Corner by the player's tunnel ? No it was under the East. A couple of weeks after their infamous Panorama appearance, Harry the Dog and his Millwall goons were seen scurrying out of there, to the safety of the Archers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 11 May, 2020 Share Posted 11 May, 2020 No it was under the East. A couple of weeks after their infamous Panorama appearance, Harry the Dog and his Millwall goons were seen scurrying out of there, to the safety of the Archers. Big difference seemed to me that West Stand used to sing about 'kicking heads in' (as the songs went in those days), Lower East didn't sing about it but always looked ready for a punch up if anyone stepped out of line or away fans tried to make their way to the small bar from the Archers Road End (no real segregation at the time). I think Lets B Avenue reinforces my recollection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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