Matthew Le God Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Yeah, how dare he. He was such a disaster. Cortese was the only person in years, in the upper echelons of the club, to actually have any ambition and he managed to spend wisely. They would identify the right target, put in a sensible bid, negotiate hard and acquire them. Playing devil's advocate... we did better after he left than whilst he was here. Tadic, Pelle, Mane, van Dijk, Koeman etc all signed after Cortese left the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Yeah, how dare he. He was such a disaster. Cortese was the only person in years, in the upper echelons of the club, to actually have any ambition and he managed to spend wisely. They would identify the right target, put in a sensible bid, negotiate hard and acquire them. This current joker has sent us back about 5 years after asset stripping us and perceives the value of the club has gone up by 40 million. No person in their right mind would buy us at that price His job was made a lot easier by us being in the lower leagues especially league 1 where we were a big fish with a fair amount of money. No chance of saints buying two of the leagues top scorers in one season (Lambert and Barnard) while we in the PL even if we had the money we don't have the kudos as a club at this level to do that. In the end the best thing Nic nak did was buy league ones top scorer for a league record fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 His job was made a lot easier by us being in the lower leagues especially league 1 where we were a big fish with a fair amount of money. No chance of saints buying two of the leagues top scorers in one season (Lambert and Barnard) while we in the PL even if we had the money we don't have the kudos as a club at this level to do that. In the end the best thing Nic nak did was buy league ones top scorer for a league record fee. And José fonte from the league above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzmeister Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Would that still be the case that like Leipzig in Germany we get to a point of challenging the elite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Yeah, how dare he. He was such a disaster. Cortese was the only person in years, in the upper echelons of the club, to actually have any ambition and he managed to spend wisely. They would identify the right target, put in a sensible bid, negotiate hard and acquire them. This current joker has sent us back about 5 years after asset stripping us and perceives the value of the club has gone up by 40 million. No person in their right mind would buy us at that price NC had oodles of cash to play with in a lower league, and spent pretty much whatever he wanted to. The latter part is what cost him his job. He was able to bring in players too good for our level, hence we achieved what we did. Essentially, we were the PSG of league 1. Re asset stripping, just look at the accounts, please. We spend what we have, there's nothing being stripped out. I get that he's not sinking money into the club, but let's not go the other way and accuse him of stripping money out. Like you, I hope that we get an owner willing to throw money at us without expecting it back, but people willing to do that are few and far between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 So what would people like as our next owner A) Shady Russian, mates with Putin, lots of money. B) Arab sheik with lots and lots of money C) Soft drink company with money D) local lad with love for the club but not that much money E) dodgy foreigner owner with much less money than promised F) American owners buying the club through loans put on the club G) Hedge fund group flogging of the stadium to raise funds H) Fan owned consortium not a pot to **** in I) Good old fashioned British businessman with nice a side line in cheap sports wear or rubber cocks A-C (they are all shady) or the Brentford type with analysis behind player buys and a strong academy with a good manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 I want Richard Chorley as chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 It's going to be complicated by the 80/20 ownership, state of the current squad and current wage to revenue ratio. If Goa wants 250m for 80% that means a full takeover would cost c300m. Think we will struggle to find a buyer at that price Redbull Saints..... That's wrong. Gao will want his £200m back plus Kat's (20%) £50m = £250m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 RB Southampton This would be the best we could ever have hoped for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 It's probably fake news. The world's financial markets are in turmoil right now with the uncertainty over Covid 19 and the newly unleashed oil war between the Saudi's and the USA shale gas producers but both issues will be resolved within a year so any sensible investor will sit tight until the storm passes. Panic selling will ensure only that any seller of assets will lose out heavily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 I fear a long drawn out stalemate in which nothing will be done and no policy clarified. It could go on for a few years, other sales eg Newcastle have taken time and our attraction to buyers will fall. I am not normally pessimistic but I am on this one, not that many folk have £250million spare cash--and that would only be for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 It's probably fake news. The world's financial markets are in turmoil right now with the uncertainty over Covid 19 and the newly unleashed oil war between the Saudi's and the USA shale gas producers but both issues will be resolved within a year so any sensible investor will sit tight until the storm passes. Panic selling will ensure only that any seller of assets will lose out heavily. Things were hardly great in 2009 either but for some this could be seen as an opportunity. Perhaps Gao will want cash quick and be willing to sell to a relatively low bidder. All hypothetical but the financial situation is not necessarily doom and gloom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 (edited) It’s a worry if anyone wants to know why have a read up on Charlton and the lunatic in charge now https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/matt-southall-issues-statement-after-tahnoon-nimer-pulls-his-backing-of-charlton-athletic/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited 10 March, 2020 by Give it to Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 It's probably fake news. The world's financial markets are in turmoil right now with the uncertainty over Covid 19 and the newly unleashed oil war between the Saudi's and the USA shale gas producers but both issues will be resolved within a year so any sensible investor will sit tight until the storm passes. Panic selling will ensure only that any seller of assets will lose out heavily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 I want Richard Chorley as chairman. Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 It's probably fake news. The world's financial markets are in turmoil right now with the uncertainty over Covid 19 and the newly unleashed oil war between the Saudi's and the USA shale gas producers but both issues will be resolved within a year so any sensible investor will sit tight until the storm passes. Panic selling will ensure only that any seller of assets will lose out heavily. None of that would necessarily make the story false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 It's probably fake news. The world's financial markets are in turmoil right now with the uncertainty over Covid 19 and the newly unleashed oil war between the Saudi's and the USA shale gas producers but both issues will be resolved within a year so any sensible investor will sit tight until the storm passes. Panic selling will ensure only that any seller of assets will lose out heavily. Things were hardly great in 2009 either but for some this could be seen as an opportunity. Perhaps Gao will want cash quick and be willing to sell to a relatively low bidder. All hypothetical but the financial situation is not necessarily doom and gloom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 So what would people like as our next owner A) Shady Russian, mates with Putin, lots of money. B) Arab sheik with lots and lots of money C) Soft drink company with money D) local lad with love for the club but not that much money E) dodgy foreigner owner with much less money than promised F) American owners buying the club through loans put on the club G) Hedge fund group flogging of the stadium to raise funds H) Fan owned consortium not a pot to **** in I) Good old fashioned British businessman with nice a side line in cheap sports wear or rubber cocks Filthy rich Arab on an ego trip please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 This is going to take a loooooong time. We'll still be for sale this time nest year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 (edited) This is going to take a loooooong time. We'll still be for sale this time nest year. Agree. Going to take a while for the penny to drop and Goa to realise that nobody will pay his asking price. What the news does suggest is that Goa is unlikely to do anything but the bare minimum in the transfer market (i.e. no fullbacks in winter windows) and will drastically limit his exposure to the club while waiting for that elusive buyer. Edited 10 March, 2020 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Agree. Going to take a while for the penny to drop and Goa to realise that nobody will pay his asking price. What the news does suggest is that Goa is unlikely to do anything but the bare minimum in the transfer market (i.e. no fullbacks in winter windows) and will drastically limit his exposure to the club while waiting for that elusive buyer. I think you'll find the full back issue was resolved when Ralph saw Vokins play in a game against Huddersfield in the FA Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Agree. Going to take a while for the penny to drop and Goa to realise that nobody will pay his asking price. What the news does suggest is that Goa is unlikely to do anything but the bare minimum in the transfer market (i.e. no fullbacks in winter windows) and will drastically limit his exposure to the club while waiting for that elusive buyer. If he takes too long accepting a bid we could well be a Championship team or worse still back in League One before finding a buyer. By then the club will be worth even less than what he thinks it is worth right now. Then it will be even harder to sell if he refuses to budge on his price. This could drag on for ages and end very badly unless there really are some seriously interested buyers already waiting in the wings right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynicalsaint Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Sunderland. That's us that is. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 If he takes too long accepting a bid we could well be a Championship team or worse still back in League One before finding a buyer. By then the club will be worth even less than what he thinks it is worth right now. Then it will be even harder to sell if he refuses to budge on his price. This could drag on for ages and end very badly unless there really are some seriously interested buyers already waiting in the wings right now. I dont disagree with you .... but would Gao really turn down a sensible offer ? I know the figure of £250 million for 80% has been quoted as his asking price but hopefully that is the starting point for negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 So what would people like as our next owner A) Shady Russian, mates with Putin, lots of money. B) Arab sheik with lots and lots of money C) Soft drink company with money D) local lad with love for the club but not that much money E) dodgy foreigner owner with much less money than promised F) American owners buying the club through loans put on the club G) Hedge fund group flogging of the stadium to raise funds H) Fan owned consortium not a pot to **** in I) Good old fashioned British businessman with nice a side line in cheap sports wear or rubber cocks When you put it like that...! I don't mind someone buying the club as an investment, and would prefer that to someone who just wants to spend like Man City have done, as I just don't agree with that approach. It would be nice to have someone who at least allows us to spend some of the money we make by virtue of being a Premier League club (as well as the players we have sold). I like the idea of us being 'self sustainable' but it feels like we have been taking the cheap route for some time. Yes, I know we have paid too much for players and are paying silly money to others, but most clubs can say that, and most clubs haven't sold players like we have. If a new owner was a roll of the dice I'd say we're probably on a 2 or 3 at the moment - it certainly could be worse with a lunatic in charge like Hull or Charlton have, but equally there isn't much to feel lucky about with Mr Gao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 So what would people like as our next owner A) Shady Russian, mates with Putin, lots of money. B) Arab sheik with lots and lots of money C) Soft drink company with money D) local lad with love for the club but not that much money E) dodgy foreigner owner with much less money than promised F) American owners buying the club through loans put on the club G) Hedge fund group flogging of the stadium to raise funds H) Fan owned consortium not a pot to **** in I) Good old fashioned British businessman with nice a side line in cheap sports wear or rubber cocks F). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Just get Heisenbeg batman and Mr X in. They know everything about running a club, buying top players for peanuts, selling deadwood at a premium. They would also be able to help ralph with tactics and also the marketing team to make us less of an embarrassment. Heisy must have $300M stashed away by now with all those bets he wins each week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 F). Is the real interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSaintCentre/status/1237448072449400833 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Jack Ma wow that would be huge!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 I have a contact in China let me get back to you on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Jack Ma wow that would be huge!!! Hes worth £41 billion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 I have a contact in China let me get back to you on that. Yes please mate. PM me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Is there a radio competition to start a more ridiculous takeover rumour than Red Bull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 (edited) Is there a radio competition to start a more ridiculous takeover rumour than Red Bull? Yep. My money’s on Dalian Wanda. He won’t want to be beaten to the punch a second time. Edited 10 March, 2020 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 I want Richard Chorley as chairman. Mate you need to be funnier than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Jack Ma buying the club seems fanciful at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Jack ma bïtch up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Our boys playing Spurs tonight. Come onnnnn lads win it for the shirt \o/ \o/ \o/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 ‘Rumour’, but thus is a forum so should discuss and not ridicule. I’d take a punt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSaintCentre/status/1237448072449400833 It’s good to know Cabbage Face is still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 F). Has worked well for Swansea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Jack Ma wow that would be huge!!! Ordered that last night, with fried rice from Mr Wonderful in Winchester. Was pretty good. (Is that racist btw? I never keep up). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Our boys playing Spurs tonight. Come onnnnn lads win it for the shirt \o/ \o/ \o/ Go team Red Bull! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Mate you need to be funnier than thatMade me smile which is the important thing. Sent from my SM-G988B using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooh it's a corner Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Ordered that last night, with fried rice from Mr Wonderful in Winchester. Was pretty good. (Is that racist btw? I never keep up). Yes it is. Do try to keep up. But thank you for recognising that it might be. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSaintCentre/status/1237448072449400833 "Worker from the club" was the reply when the person was asked for their source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Yes it is. Do try to keep up. But thank you for recognising that it might be. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 March, 2020 Share Posted 10 March, 2020 Playing devil's advocate... we did better after he left than whilst he was here. Tadic, Pelle, Mane, van Dijk, Koeman etc all signed after Cortese left the club.Scouted and identified by the team Cortese put in place. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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