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SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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7 minutes ago, EBS1980 said:

Wonder if said PL CEO and consortium is the Richard Scudamore and Redball group?

Crooks a helmet but I can't disagree with his 1st point.

IF it is Scudamore, then that technically is the [other] Red Bull group RedBall.

It could be Peter Kenyon, who seems to be forever linked with takeovers that don't happen.

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* Update - Funnily enough I just googled Peter Kenyon & he was involved in the GACP (DaGrosa) attempted takeover at Newcastle.

 

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Dusic

Dusic

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15 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

But if you read the article that says it isn't her decision to make. 

It says she has veto option on any deal, so she is surely in a position to notice Da Grossa is a charlatan and stop it, should she wish to?

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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2 hours ago, Dusic said:

It says she has veto option on any deal, so she is surely in a position to notice Da Grossa is a charlatan and stop it, should she wish to?

Yes but if what they are reporting is true then he's talking to Gao not kat. 

Master Bates

Master Bates

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9 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Yes but if what they are reporting is true then he's talking to Gao not kat. 

But if Kat still has a say and has to sign anything to finalise anything what with being part owner with not as much power but still with a say?

 

I have no idea how it works hence the question 👍🍻🙂

Toadhall Saint

Toadhall Saint

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Not sure how Kat can veto anything as she has a 20% holding. If Gao wants to sell his 80% then I don’t think Kat can do anything about it. It means whoever buys the club would only “own” 80% unless Kat wants to sell as well.

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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Just now, Toadhall Saint said:

Not sure how Kat can veto anything as she has a 20% holding. If Gao wants to sell his 80% then I don’t think Kat can do anything about it.

She can if she inserted a veto clause into the deal to sell 80% to Gao.

 

benjii

benjii

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Kat and Gao could have agreed anything.

Wasn't it reported before that she had a put option (i.e. the right to force him to buy her out) and she tried to exercise it but he wasn't good for the cash. I'm sure I remember reading about that. They were in dispute. 

 

 

SW5 SAINT

SW5 SAINT

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32 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

She can if she inserted a veto clause into the deal to sell 80% to Gao.

 

My impressions are it’s just as well she has 20% holding and veto. I’m sure without her Gao, would have loaded the debt to buy back on Southampton......

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Turkish

Turkish

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24 minutes ago, benjii said:

Kat and Gao could have agreed anything.

Wasn't it reported before that she had a put option (i.e. the right to force him to buy her out) and she tried to exercise it but he wasn't good for the cash. I'm sure I remember reading about that. They were in dispute. 

 

 

There was talk of legal action wasn't there? About 18 months ago i think. 

trousers

trousers

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19 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

I think that's a tad unfair. I can't imagine she would have gone ahead with Gao with hindsight

Or a smidgen of foresight...

Lets B Avenue

Lets B Avenue

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4 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

Crooks a helmet but I can't disagree with his 1st point.

IF it is Scudamore, then that technically is the [other] Red Bull group RedBall.

It could be Peter Kenyon, who seems to be forever linked with takeovers that don't happen.

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* Update - Funnily enough I just googled Peter Kenyon & he was involved in the GACP (DaGrosa) attempted takeover at Newcastle.

 

I'm more worried about the mental state of "Gazz" who only trusts Alex Crook.

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Mystic Force

Mystic Force

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On 22/09/2020 at 15:18, saint lard said:

Robert Kraft. 
 

He just got of the prostitution charge because the florida court of appeals says you have an expectation to privacy while getting happy endings and they cant use the tapes as evidence, that should help with the fit and proper test.

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charliemiller

charliemiller

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If Adam Blackmore says it isnt the degrosa guy I would tend to believe him .

He also says there is a buyer there which is great news !!!

 

Its gonna be complicated though ....Dell fella has an 80k loan out , Gao wants what 200 to clear his loan , and KAT has 20% (which is not a veto 25% or above is .

Somethings happening none of guesers know what which is good ,.

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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10 minutes ago, charliemiller said:

If Adam Blackmore says it isnt the degrosa guy I would tend to believe him .

He also says there is a buyer there which is great news !!!

 

Its gonna be complicated though ....Dell fella has an 80k loan out , Gao wants what 200 to clear his loan , and KAT has 20% (which is not a veto 25% or above is .

Somethings happening none of guesers know what which is good ,.

I was told a few weeks ago that a takeover is progressing and that Kat was happy. That would probably suggest that it isn't this chancer and more likely to be someone hopefully better than who we currently have.

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Appy

Appy

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Seen Kraft mentioned a few times on here, whether it’s just speculation but charges against him for solicitation have today been dropped. 

Convict Colony

Convict Colony

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1 hour ago, Appy said:

Seen Kraft mentioned a few times on here, whether it’s just speculation but charges against him for solicitation have today been dropped. 

Not sure have you ever been wanked off in a thai massage parlour in florida ever been a question.

Suhari

Suhari

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20 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Not sure have you ever been wanked off in a thai massage parlour in florida ever been a question.

Does this impact membership of SaintsWeb?

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JRM

JRM

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20 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Not sure have you ever been wanked off in a thai massage parlour in florida ever been a question.

Maybe saints can show him around town with a quick visit to Derby road to seal the deal. 

Appy

Appy

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25 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Not sure have you ever been wanked off in a thai massage parlour in florida ever been a question.

We clearly haven’t been asking the right questions! 

NewYorkSaint

NewYorkSaint

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Stay calm, people. I have a hunch things could work out really well. From this side of the Atlantic, I know a few of those involved. There's a scenario where this is truly transformative for Saints. Nothing's finalized of course.  Can't say more just yet. But speaking personally, as a life-long Saints fan, I'm pretty excited about what I'm hearing.

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MarkSFC

MarkSFC

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4 minutes ago, NewYorkSaint said:

Stay calm, people. I have a hunch things could work out really well. From this side of the Atlantic, I know a few of those involved. There's a scenario where this is truly transformative for Saints. Nothing's finalized of course.  Can't say more just yet. But speaking personally, as a life-long Saints fan, I'm pretty excited about what I'm hearing.

Taking your post at face value, it sounds exciting, so can you expand on what "transformative" may look like?😁

SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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16 minutes ago, NewYorkSaint said:

Stay calm, people. I have a hunch things could work out really well. From this side of the Atlantic, I know a few of those involved. There's a scenario where this is truly transformative for Saints. Nothing's finalized of course.  Can't say more just yet. But speaking personally, as a life-long Saints fan, I'm pretty excited about what I'm hearing.

From the DaGrosa group? Or another?

Toadhall Saint

Toadhall Saint

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8 hours ago, NewYorkSaint said:

Stay calm, people. I have a hunch things could work out really well. From this side of the Atlantic, I know a few of those involved. There's a scenario where this is truly transformative for Saints. Nothing's finalized of course.  Can't say more just yet. But speaking personally, as a life-long Saints fan, I'm pretty excited about what I'm hearing.

Not sure the club needs transforming just a decent amount of dosh chucked at it in the player dept. I’m hoping it’s evolution and not revolution.

miserableoldgit

miserableoldgit

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2 hours ago, Toadhall Saint said:

Not sure the club needs transforming just a decent amount of dosh chucked at it in the player dept. I’m hoping it’s evolution and not revolution.

"A decent amount of dosh" would transform the club wouldn't it?

woodsaint1

woodsaint1

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4 hours ago, Toadhall Saint said:

Not sure the club needs transforming just a decent amount of dosh chucked at it in the player dept. I’m hoping it’s evolution and not revolution.

Recruitment dept could do with a bit of help too judging by previous transfer windows

stevy777_x

stevy777_x

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25 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said:

Not sure the club needs transforming just a decent amount of dosh chucked at it in the player dept. I’m hoping it’s evolution and not revolution.

Depends if you want to compete with big clubs. If that s the objective, then you do.

Marketing wise would be one of the areas of transformation, if you want to build a brand.

 

saintquin

saintquin

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27 minutes ago, stevy777_x said:

Depends if you want to compete with big clubs. If that s the objective, then you do.

Marketing wise would be one of the areas of transformation, if you want to build a brand.

 

I think the thing you need most with worldwide marketing is the media. The reason the bigger clubs get more worldwide fans is they are always on tele and in the papers so people around the world see and know about them more.

Don't know how we could get more time on tele unless we consistently finish higher in the league and/ or become more attractive to watch.

So the answer is to,?

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alehouseboys

alehouseboys

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41 minutes ago, stevy777_x said:

Depends if you want to compete with big clubs. If that s the objective, then you do.

Marketing wise would be one of the areas of transformation, if you want to build a brand.

 

We have to be realistic, even if someone comes in and pumps in £millions, we'll never compete with the 'big clubs' on a regular basis. We'll have good periods, and when the big clubs then decide to take our best players will drop back and go again. But if we have the finances we'll bounce back and have another go.

The big clubs generally come from big cities. Southampton is a medium-sized city with a medium-sized football club, compared to the other 80 or so league clubs in this country we are one of the bigger ones but the real big 'uns are are another level. I've been following this club for nearly 6 decades so I guess I kind of accept it.

Convict Colony

Convict Colony

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Ok did some digging and checked for possible US investors who have been looking at or shown interest in UK clubs or european clubs recently.

So @NewYorkSaint can you say if either of the below maybe involved

  • Henry Mauriss
  • Bull Horn Holdings - Rob Striar or Chris Calise

FYI for all - Mission statement from Bull Horn very interesting & they filed for an IPO for 75mil a few days ago.

"We are a newly organized blank check company formed for the purpose of effecting a merger, capital stock exchange, asset acquisition, stock purchase, reorganization or similar business combination with one or more businesses. We have not selected any business combination target. While our efforts to identify a prospective target business will not necessarily be limited to a particular industry, sector or region, we intend to capitalize on the expertise of our management team in the sports (including sports franchises or assets related to sports franchises, and sports technology), entertainment and brands sectors. We intend to focus on leading sports, entertainment and brand companies that have potential for brand and commercial growth. Our objective is to generate attractive returns and create value for our shareholders by applying our strategy of identifying opportunities and capitalizing on the experience of our management team to acquire and manage a business that can benefit from our management team’s global experience with teams, leagues, brands and investments."

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carljack

carljack

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18 hours ago, JRM said:

Maybe saints can show him around town with a quick visit to Derby road to seal the deal. 

No way,just get Avram Grant to introduce him to the girls at FUFUs Thai massage parlour Horton Heath,job done !

verlaine1979

verlaine1979

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3 hours ago, stevy777_x said:

Depends if you want to compete with big clubs. If that s the objective, then you do.

Marketing wise would be one of the areas of transformation, if you want to build a brand.

 

Building a brand is expensive if you didn't already become one during football's heyday. It's not for nothing that the only two clubs attempting to join the famous old guard on the global stage are owned by countries, rather than individuals.

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Convict Colony

Convict Colony

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Ok you lazy bastards i signed up for free.

We have a potential winner - Kapital Football

DOES THIS SOUND FAMILIAR

KFG HAS EXECUTED AN EXCLUSIVE LETTER TO ACQUIRE  80% OF AN UNNAMED PREMIER LEAGUE CLUB WITH THE OPTION TO ACQUIRE THE REMAINING 20.

Cunningly they stop you copying and pasting from the article so its going to be screen shots

 

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Convict Colony

Convict Colony

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3 minutes ago, benjii said:

Christ, the classic “football consortium”.

Grandiose plan.

Washed up player as some sort of associate / advisor.

No money.

To be honest this sounds like a rehash of the original da grosa story, I assume the exclusive letter is just a period to negotiated/due diligence etc which we sort of already knew.

The interesting thing for me was the other 20% being involved.

Still not convinced this is the real deal

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