Convict Colony Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 (edited) Yeah I dont think gao has much wiggle room and no leverage. He was looking for 250mil in apr https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/southampton-put-up-for-sale-by-gao-jisheng/#:~:text=Premier League football club Southampton,Gao Jisheng%2C the Chinese businessman. bet its more like 175m now Reminder of the article in may linking us with american investors - https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/11981915/coronavirus-disrupts-southampton-sale-talks-over-gao-jisheng-majority-share Edited 11 September, 2020 by Convict Colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 Just now, Convict Colony said: Yeah I dont think gao has much wiggle room and no leverage. He was looking for 250mil in apr https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/southampton-put-up-for-sale-by-gao-jisheng/#:~:text=Premier League football club Southampton,Gao Jisheng%2C the Chinese businessman. bet its more like 175m now I’d imagine it would be worth playing the long game for any new buyer. Certainly a buyer’s market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 No thanks. Seems like a real chancer. https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanaglass/2019/07/15/how-bordeaux-is-challenging-the-status-quo-to-become-a-top-ligue-1-club/#2df407b348bd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archers Road Stand Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 Sounds awful tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 Not convinced we'd see much investment. Like for like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 14 minutes ago, Delmary said: No thanks. Seems like a real chancer. https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanaglass/2019/07/15/how-bordeaux-is-challenging-the-status-quo-to-become-a-top-ligue-1-club/#2df407b348bd Am struggling to see how he is a chancer based on that article, if anything Mr (I changed the fit and proper test) Gao is the biggest chancer this side of mike ashley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 (edited) Also this is his vision via the website for Kaptial football group - interestingly some of the links in the page go to template pages - not LSD bad but lazy Vice chairman is a dude who runs soccer schools and Landon Donavan is a advisor https://kapitalfootballgroup.com/ Edited 11 September, 2020 by Convict Colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 Sounds like a joker with no skin in the game. I'm going to build a world class network of clubs. Just give me all the money I need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 Kapital Football Group UK were incorporated on the 2nd September. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/12853953 Rather US Money than Chinese any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 He seems to talk a lot — which instantly concerns me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, skintsaint said: Doesn't bode well he has to sell a top flight team to buy another if thats his ambition. Where the money going to come from because he won't make anything outta us? It's clear it will be financed through debt. There's no pot if money to put in. At first glance I'm underwhelmed: it comes over as a lot of big talk with little substance Edited 11 September, 2020 by Shroppie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 9 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: He seems to talk a lot — which instantly concerns me. Agreed. Although it would be nice to hear from Gao now and again, I quite like the fact he doesn't say a great amount and stays out of the way. More investment would be welcome but at the end of the day he lets Martin and Ralph get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Am struggling to see how he is a chancer based on that article, if anything Mr (I changed the fit and proper test) Gao is the biggest chancer this side of mike ashley I’d take Ashley over Gao and this muppet every day of the week. Edited 11 September, 2020 by SKD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 When DaGrosa took over as director at Bordeaux he made sweeping changes - including the manager, CEO and a majority of the office staff. Let's just hope he realises that isn't needed here!! (If it were to actually happen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 8 hours ago, hypochondriac said: One thing I will say is that the bloke who told me about this strongly believes that this is a good thing. I'm not sure myself. Im not really sure why people are slagging him off already. He's certainly said the right things about respecting the clubs history, growing the club etc. I cant see too much wrong in what he's said so far. If we are at the centre of a Man City type structure i dont see that as a bad thing either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkeith Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 He was a disaster at Bordeaux, making a transfer profit every window and closing the Ultras End because of their protests about how he was running the club. There was write up somewhere last year that basically said that he thought he had paid too much money for the club and wanted to get it back any way that he could. To me he sounds like another Rupert Lowe type of owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 25 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: He seems to talk a lot — which instantly concerns me. He is American. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 3 minutes ago, redkeith said: He was a disaster at Bordeaux, making a transfer profit every window and closing the Ultras End because of their protests about how he was running the club. There was write up somewhere last year that basically said that he thought he had paid too much money for the club and wanted to get it back any way that he could. To me he sounds like another Rupert Lowe type of owner. So not much different to the Liebhers or Goa either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 3 minutes ago, redkeith said: He was a disaster at Bordeaux, making a transfer profit every window and closing the Ultras End because of their protests about how he was running the club. There was write up somewhere last year that basically said that he thought he had paid too much money for the club and wanted to get it back any way that he could. To me he sounds like another Rupert Lowe type of owner. The sfc ultras should start mobilising in anticipation. If he outlaws face paints and jester hats then we will know we are in trouble. Dark times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 Can anyone supply a list of People who are allowed to purchase us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: The sfc ultras should start mobilising in anticipation. If he outlaws face paints and jester hats then we will know we are in trouble. Dark times. If he promises to do that i'll drive him here myself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 5 minutes ago, Turkish said: He is American. One more reason for concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 Reading this thread reminded me of the time that insane poster tried to say that using the word Chinaman when describing Gao was offensive and racist. Lolololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 7 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Reading this thread reminded me of the time that insane poster tried to say that using the word Chinaman when describing Gao was offensive and racist. Lolololol Is it racist and offensive to slag off Americans as well? We need some of our Woke posters to tell us. Calling aintforver and Soggy to the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 4 minutes ago, Turkish said: Is it racist and offensive to slag off Americans as well? We need some of our Woke posters to tell us. Calling aintforver and Soggy to the thread. As a man who has 1/200000th of my dna as indigenous American, I'm offended by the term "American." I'd prefer "descendents of redskin oppressors". Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 17 minutes ago, Cartman said: One more reason for concern. Racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 24 minutes ago, Turkish said: He's certainly said the right things about respecting the clubs history, growing the club etc. I cant see too much wrong in what he's said so far. I'm pretty sure a charlatan would say good things too, perhaps even more so in order to create an impressive veneer. MLG notes: I'm not suggesting this DaGrosa fella is a charlatan, just highlighting that saying the right things is something both a good guy and a bad guy would do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 1 minute ago, trousers said: I'm pretty sure a charlatan would say good things too, perhaps even more so in order to create an impressive veneer. MLG notes: I'm not suggesting this DaGrosa fella is a charlatan, just highlighting that saying the right things is something both a good guy and a bad guy would do If he hadn't said anything about respecting a clubs history, just buying us and making us part of a poor mans City Football Group then everyone would be outraged that he has no respect for our history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 For what it's worth, my hunch is that a DaGrosa led takeover wouldn't be good. MLG notes: it's just a hunch / gut feel FFS! Not based on anything tangible or scientic at all. Just leave me alone will you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 1 minute ago, Turkish said: If he hadn't said anything about respecting a clubs history, just buying us and making us part of a poor mans City Football Group then everyone would be outraged that he has no respect for our history. Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 1 hour ago, Nolan said: Kapital Football Group UK were incorporated on the 2nd September. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/12853953 Based in Jersey.... maybe Le Tiss and Micky Vialka are involved too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 I just hope he has the dreams and ambitions we require to take us to our rightful place in the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 2 minutes ago, trousers said: Based in Jersey.... maybe Le Tiss and Micky Vialka are involved too.... Wrong island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 57 minutes ago, Turkish said: So not much different to the Liebhers or Goa either! Lowe is very different from Goa. Whilst neither have material funds, Lowe was a man with a (many) plan(s) and sought personal profile. They were just mostly shite plans. Goa has no discernible plan, strategy or interest other than some personal financial maneuvering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 People who swap “c” for “k” are usually kunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 15 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Wrong island Close enough.... MLG Notes: Ok, so I screwed up. Please don't give too much of a hard time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 1 hour ago, Convict Colony said: Also this is his vision via the website for Kaptial football group - interestingly some of the links in the page go to template pages - not LSD bad but lazy Vice chairman is a dude who runs soccer schools and Landon Donavan is a advisor https://kapitalfootballgroup.com/ Seems legit... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 Quote He seems to talk a lot — which instantly concerns me. Quote It's clear it will be financed through debt. There's no pot if money to put in. At first glance I'm underwhelmed: it comes over as a lot of big talk with little substance These summarise it for me. The Bordeaux experience doesn't bode well either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 And, fundamentally, it’s a private equity fund. It has investors and it has a duty to provide them with returns. History and tradition will only be viewed as meaningful if they can be monetised, otherwise it’s empty words. And for SFC, history and tradition will never be financially meaningful relative to Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal etc. even Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambtiss Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2019/feature-how-paulo-sousa-steadied-the-ship-at-bordeaux/ Not reassuring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 Yeah, kinda tempted to dodge this one. But if they're negotiating with Gao directly for his stake, this is probably the sort of deal he'd sanction as we all know he wants out and has no real interest in what happens to us afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 https://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/nufc-linked-billionaire-joe-dagrosa-antithesis-mike-ashley-and-heres-why-806338 “In our case we want to build the club from the ground up, produce home-grown players and eventually keep a lot of that talent in Bordeaux. “We have got to develop young talent, like a fine wine and wait for the right vintage. This is with a view to having a very strong squad in two, three, four years time.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 16 minutes ago, Nolan said: https://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/nufc-linked-billionaire-joe-dagrosa-antithesis-mike-ashley-and-heres-why-806338 “In our case we want to build the club from the ground up, produce home-grown players and eventually keep a lot of that talent in Bordeaux. “We have got to develop young talent, like a fine wine and wait for the right vintage. This is with a view to having a very strong squad in two, three, four years time.” This guy seems a legit football visionary 👍 He reminds me of Simon Clifford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 (edited) Everything seems like guesswork anyway... Anybody started that list of people who are allowed to takeover the club yet? Edited 11 September, 2020 by Nolan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 4 minutes ago, Nolan said: Everything seems like guesswork anyway... Anybody started that list of people who are allowed to takeover the club yet? Sir Richard Branson Bill Gates Mr Burns Me Prince Philip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 wouldn't put it past the club to link details of one interested party to the press, while they are actually working with another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 5 minutes ago, EBS1980 said: wouldn't put it past the club to link details of one interested party to the press, while they are actually working with another. yeah or put the pressure on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 10 minutes ago, EBS1980 said: wouldn't put it past the club to link details of one interested party to the press, while they are actually working with another. As we have been told we do not do any of our business in the media so i fully expect us to pull out of this deal now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicBoom Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 3 hours ago, Turkish said: If he hadn't said anything about respecting a clubs history, just buying us and making us part of a poor mans City Football Group then everyone would be outraged that he has no respect for our history. I just wish these buyers didn't say anything at all. Keep your gob shut until the deal is done. Don't tell me which new players you are buying. Don't tell me you grew up wearing Phil Boyer pyjamas. Just do the deal out quietly and without leaking a load of nonsense through the press. Once the deal is done then present your plans more publicly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 11 September, 2020 Share Posted 11 September, 2020 Saw crook say that there was another party but wouldnt mention who..... Personally saw that as him having no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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