skintsaint Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 On 24/02/2020 at 06:45, whelk said: Number 1 and unchallenged for 20 years is undoubtedly Garth Crooks. Still going strong... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Gifted is more about ability, generally innate and at an exceptional level whereas talent is more about aptitude applied to a skill. so being gifted has more potential to reach higher levels than being talented and doesn’t need to be ‘learned’ but supported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty's Caddy Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Caught Dennis Wise being interviewed the other evening on Solent. Christ. Not only has he got a degree in state the fuckin obvious but appeared to be suffering from dementia or something. It was painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 59 minutes ago, Matty's Caddy said: Caught Dennis Wise being interviewed the other evening on Solent. Christ. Not only has he got a degree in state the fuckin obvious but appeared to be suffering from dementia or something. It was painful. Wise by name but not by nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 3 hours ago, Doctoroncall said: Gifted is more about ability, generally innate and at an exceptional level whereas talent is more about aptitude applied to a skill. so being gifted has more potential to reach higher levels than being talented and doesn’t need to be ‘learned’ but supported. But how is any of Cole Palmer's ability innate? did he come out of the womb with the ability to beat players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 I've noticed Sky have been trotting out Troy Deeney more and more in a punditry role, he's awful. Made the stupid prediction for the final championship games that he fancied Hull to sneak into the playoffs, at the expense of Norwich, totally forgetting the required 18 goal swing for that to happen. The presenter pointed it out and he still stood firm on his view that it was 'possible'. They were also comparing our achievement in 2012 (back to back promotions) with Ipswich, and according to Deeney we had Chamberlain and Wanyama in the side - so it was easier for us. Just let these guys sink into the background please, they have nothing to offer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarisbury Saint Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Garth Crooks, Jamie Carragher and Jermaine Jenas. In that order. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 I don't know about the worst but the best one to watch is definitely Roy Keane when Man Utd are playing shit. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 27 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I've noticed Sky have been trotting out Troy Deeney more and more in a punditry role, he's awful. Made the stupid prediction for the final championship games that he fancied Hull to sneak into the playoffs, at the expense of Norwich, totally forgetting the required 18 goal swing for that to happen. The presenter pointed it out and he still stood firm on his view that it was 'possible'. They were also comparing our achievement in 2012 (back to back promotions) with Ipswich, and according to Deeney we had Chamberlain and Wanyama in the side - so it was easier for us. Just let these guys sink into the background please, they have nothing to offer. they do 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) I've always found the German pundits are the wurst. Edited May 8 by trousers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 47 minutes ago, Sarisbury Saint said: Garth Crooks, Jamie Carragher and Jermaine Jenas. In that order. Yep but I need to add Alex f’kin Scott to that. She literally talks in cliches when she does pundit work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 2 hours ago, Jeremy Corbyn said: But how is any of Cole Palmer's ability innate? did he come out of the womb with the ability to beat players? Hence why you don’t need to take any notice of Crooks’ musings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 2 hours ago, trousers said: I've always found the German pundits are the wurst. They can come across as vey bratty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Jamie Carragher, Jamie Carragher, Jamie Carragher are definitely the worst three. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 6 hours ago, Jeremy Corbyn said: But how is any of Cole Palmer's ability innate? did he come out of the womb with the ability to beat players? "Top Bins!" shouted the successful sperm, already sure of the life waiting ahead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Garth Crooks must be only retaining his job cos he fills a quota for the BBC cos his football knowledge is atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keef Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Carragher (I can't understand a word he says......but I'm guessing it bollocks). Should have been sacked anyway. Hinchcliffe co-commentating (I wish I couldn't understand a word he says.....for an ex-player who was as I recall, an average premiership player at best, he comes across so up his own backside with his "I told you so" know it all attitude, anyone would think he was the love child of Messi and Ronaldo in his day). Every time someone scores, it's always someone fault. Seldom is it just a great goal. Roy Keane - mad as a bucket, but I love watching/listening to him. Anyone who can grow a full beard in about 20 minutes gets my vote! Ally McCoist - very good co-commentator. Right amount of enthusiasm and sensible comment - even if he follows every sentence with "it really was". ie "That was a great pass, it really was". "That was a great save, it really was". Anyway, I like him....."I really do". I notice others have started copying him and doing this as well. Lineker is more a presenter that a pundit, but all I can think of to say is,,,,,Arrrrgggghhhh Nooooooo!!!! I can't watch MOTD anymore because of him. Way too Smarmy for my liking. I was never a fan of Gary Neville as a player, but I actually think he's one of the better co-commentators/pundits. Redknapp Junior. Not for me thank you. Maybe it's that obvious family connection. Micah Richards - I wonder if he'd be where he is if City weren't so dominant. He is extremely biased towards them. Shearer - Generally get a level-headed view from him and is critical of The Toon when it is deserved. Jenas........Why? Lee Dixon - Seems about as interesting as a multi-story car park. Alan Smith - actually I find him ok. Never over the top but quite listenable. I didn't see Deeney's finest hour so can't comment. Sounds like it wasn't great. There you go chaps, that's my summary....."it really is". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 10 minutes ago, Saint Keef said: Carragher (I can't understand a word he says......but I'm guessing it bollocks). Should have been sacked anyway. Hinchcliffe co-commentating (I wish I couldn't understand a word he says.....for an ex-player who was as I recall, an average premiership player at best, he comes across so up his own backside with his "I told you so" know it all attitude, anyone would think he was the love child of Messi and Ronaldo in his day). Every time someone scores, it's always someone fault. Seldom is it just a great goal. Roy Keane - mad as a bucket, but I love watching/listening to him. Anyone who can grow a full beard in about 20 minutes gets my vote! Ally McCoist - very good co-commentator. Right amount of enthusiasm and sensible comment - even if he follows every sentence with "it really was". ie "That was a great pass, it really was". "That was a great save, it really was". Anyway, I like him....."I really do". I notice others have started copying him and doing this as well. Lineker is more a presenter that a pundit, but all I can think of to say is,,,,,Arrrrgggghhhh Nooooooo!!!! I can't watch MOTD anymore because of him. Way too Smarmy for my liking. I was never a fan of Gary Neville as a player, but I actually think he's one of the better co-commentators/pundits. Redknapp Junior. Not for me thank you. Maybe it's that obvious family connection. Micah Richards - I wonder if he'd be where he is if City weren't so dominant. He is extremely biased towards them. Shearer - Generally get a level-headed view from him and is critical of The Toon when it is deserved. Jenas........Why? Lee Dixon - Seems about as interesting as a multi-story car park. Alan Smith - actually I find him ok. Never over the top but quite listenable. I didn't see Deeney's finest hour so can't comment. Sounds like it wasn't great. There you go chaps, that's my summary....."it really is". I agree with much of that. To add, Rio Ferdinand offers opinion as if he is still 23 years old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 59 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: "Top Bins!" shouted the successful sperm, already sure of the life waiting ahead. Surely it was "nuts"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 21 minutes ago, Saint Keef said: Carragher (I can't understand a word he says......but I'm guessing it bollocks). Should have been sacked anyway. Hinchcliffe co-commentating (I wish I couldn't understand a word he says.....for an ex-player who was as I recall, an average premiership player at best, he comes across so up his own backside with his "I told you so" know it all attitude, anyone would think he was the love child of Messi and Ronaldo in his day). Every time someone scores, it's always someone fault. Seldom is it just a great goal. Roy Keane - mad as a bucket, but I love watching/listening to him. Anyone who can grow a full beard in about 20 minutes gets my vote! Ally McCoist - very good co-commentator. Right amount of enthusiasm and sensible comment - even if he follows every sentence with "it really was". ie "That was a great pass, it really was". "That was a great save, it really was". Anyway, I like him....."I really do". I notice others have started copying him and doing this as well. Lineker is more a presenter that a pundit, but all I can think of to say is,,,,,Arrrrgggghhhh Nooooooo!!!! I can't watch MOTD anymore because of him. Way too Smarmy for my liking. I was never a fan of Gary Neville as a player, but I actually think he's one of the better co-commentators/pundits. Redknapp Junior. Not for me thank you. Maybe it's that obvious family connection. Micah Richards - I wonder if he'd be where he is if City weren't so dominant. He is extremely biased towards them. Shearer - Generally get a level-headed view from him and is critical of The Toon when it is deserved. Jenas........Why? Lee Dixon - Seems about as interesting as a multi-story car park. Alan Smith - actually I find him ok. Never over the top but quite listenable. I didn't see Deeney's finest hour so can't comment. Sounds like it wasn't great. There you go chaps, that's my summary....."it really is". They're no Pat Nevin, are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 7 hours ago, S-Clarke said: I've noticed Sky have been trotting out Troy Deeney more and more in a punditry role, he's awful. He’s now fucking up Simon Jordan’s “upfront” podcast. Was a decent listen, but now it’s “3 up front”, with Jordon, Souness (who is great on it) & Deeney (who is a fucking plank). It’s quite a good concept, Jordan an ex owner, Souness an ex player and manager, and a younger recently retired player. The problem is the recently retired player is a moron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 18 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: He’s now fucking up Simon Jordan’s “upfront” podcast. Was a decent listen, but now it’s “3 up front”, with Jordon, Souness (who is great on it) & Deeney (who is a fucking plank). It’s quite a good concept, Jordan an ex owner, Souness an ex player and manager, and a younger recently retired player. The problem is the recently retired player is a moron Yep, noticed the same - I liked that podcast too, but I don't like it with Deeney involved. That's what I meant how he's being trotted out more and more. He was an enormous fail as a manager, so he's going all in on his punditry now. Too many of these former players being made pundits when they have zero to add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 4 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Yep, noticed the same - I liked that podcast too, but I don't like it with Deeney involved. That's what I meant how he's being trotted out more and more. He was an enormous fail as a manager, so he's going all in on his punditry now. Too many of these former players being made pundits when they have zero to add. Fisrt Deeney, now Ashley Young has started his move into punditry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakovnetski Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Have to agree with Saint WGC that Chris Kamara is a legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway saint Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Rachel Brown Finnis I have nightmares about her and drury teaming up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint In Cornwall Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 What about that odious piece of shit that keeps crawling out of the woodwork - Jamie O'Hara 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitch Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 On 08/05/2024 at 19:55, Saint Keef said: Carragher (I can't understand a word he says......but I'm guessing it bollocks). Should have been sacked anyway. Hinchcliffe co-commentating (I wish I couldn't understand a word he says.....for an ex-player who was as I recall, an average premiership player at best, he comes across so up his own backside with his "I told you so" know it all attitude, anyone would think he was the love child of Messi and Ronaldo in his day). Every time someone scores, it's always someone fault. Seldom is it just a great goal. Roy Keane - mad as a bucket, but I love watching/listening to him. Anyone who can grow a full beard in about 20 minutes gets my vote! Ally McCoist - very good co-commentator. Right amount of enthusiasm and sensible comment - even if he follows every sentence with "it really was". ie "That was a great pass, it really was". "That was a great save, it really was". Anyway, I like him....."I really do". I notice others have started copying him and doing this as well. Lineker is more a presenter that a pundit, but all I can think of to say is,,,,,Arrrrgggghhhh Nooooooo!!!! I can't watch MOTD anymore because of him. Way too Smarmy for my liking. I was never a fan of Gary Neville as a player, but I actually think he's one of the better co-commentators/pundits. Redknapp Junior. Not for me thank you. Maybe it's that obvious family connection. Micah Richards - I wonder if he'd be where he is if City weren't so dominant. He is extremely biased towards them. Shearer - Generally get a level-headed view from him and is critical of The Toon when it is deserved. Jenas........Why? Lee Dixon - Seems about as interesting as a multi-story car park. Alan Smith - actually I find him ok. Never over the top but quite listenable. I didn't see Deeney's finest hour so can't comment. Sounds like it wasn't great. There you go chaps, that's my summary....."it really is". Agree with that, other than Alan Smith who irrationally irritates me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 I hate to say it, but there is not one female pundit that is any good. Not fucking one. Merson is a fucking moron, Carragher is garbage. I’ve just turned Sky Soccer Saturday off, how shit is that now compared to the old days. Unwatchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPY Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 On 08/05/2024 at 19:55, Convict Colony said: Garth Crooks must be only retaining his job cos he fills a quota for the BBC cos his football knowledge is atrocious. Think it’s probably the opposite and he’s part of the old boys club. Plenty of younger, more fashionable and even female former black players they could replace him with for the ‘quota’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Merson ..always slags us off cos of the obvious & gets away with comments about players & teams that other pundits wouldn’t ! Was kept on by sky wen they went on the box ticking regime sacking the old soccer Saturday lads .. his alcohol & gambling addiction stories are a load a bollox .. he’s told one story on soccer sat one week about him and Tony Adams on the lash .. 3 months later was telling the exact same story to the letter for it to have a totally different ending ! Blokes full of shit ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Have we really got this far without anyone suggesting Eni Aluko? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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