SKD Posted 26 February, 2020 Author Share Posted 26 February, 2020 I can see why you want to digress from thread topic you started. I thought this was about why we are in a relegation fight. So we wouldn’t be if we could be like the superstars up at Burnley. Did you have a moan about our fans too? Lots of us will sing Shane Long’s name whereas likes of you just covet other sh1t teams players. #propersupporter Our support is sh!t, Shane long as a striker is sh!t, Burnley players are sh!t, just better than ours (in some positions). We were in with a chance of relegation if we hadn’t won Saturday (thread started before Saturday). Hope that helps pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 26 February, 2020 Share Posted 26 February, 2020 Our support is sh!t, Shane long as a striker is sh!t, Burnley players are sh!t, just better than ours (in some positions). We were in with a chance of relegation if we hadn’t won Saturday (thread started before Saturday). Hope that helps pal. Your predictions are fcking sh1t. No spine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 27 February, 2020 Share Posted 27 February, 2020 I think we are probably staying up, all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevematthews635 Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 I think we are probably staying up, all things considered.No s**t Shurlock! Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 February, 2020 Author Share Posted 29 February, 2020 Not a great set of results for us today (let’s pray for an expected Liverpool win). Just goes to show how massive that win was last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 Not a great set of results for us today (let’s pray for an expected Liverpool win). Just goes to show how massive that win was last week. They've played Norwich, WHU and Watford in recent weeks....feels so wrong wanting them to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 back in the relegation fight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 February, 2020 Author Share Posted 29 February, 2020 #draggedbackin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 (edited) Terrible weekend for Villa and Brighton + Bournemouth Edited 29 February, 2020 by Heisenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 February, 2020 Author Share Posted 29 February, 2020 back in the relegation fight! No chance. It’s absolutely impossible that the teams below us will go on a run of form. Only we are allowed to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 No chance. It’s absolutely impossible that the teams below us will go on a run of form. Only we are allowed to do that. I honestly can’t tell if you’re trolling or just desperately trying to justify this thread with increasingly silly posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 Sure looks like at 38-40 pts will be needed for safety. In that regard not much has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 Sure looks like at 38-40 pts will be needed for safety. In that regard not much has changed. No, it looks like 38 points, I.e. 1 per game, will finish 15th. If I had to bet, I’d say someone will stay up on 36. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 February, 2020 Author Share Posted 29 February, 2020 I honestly can’t tell if you’re trolling or just desperately trying to justify this thread with increasingly silly posts. No trolling here, just pointing out we are 7 points clear so 100% safe as despite playing everyone below us, there is no way that they will get 2 more wins than us. No chance at all. Anyhow, Didn’t you say we are better than sheff United? Let’s not talk about silly posts pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 Sure looks like at 38-40 pts will be needed for safety. In that regard not much has changed. 18th place is averaging under a point per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 As things stand I think Norwich, Villa , Brighton for the drop, plenty of twists to come though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 February, 2020 Author Share Posted 29 February, 2020 18th place is averaging under a point per game. Absolutely no way a team in 18th place can improve and go on a run of a few wins, so that’s really good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 Absolutely no way a team in 18th place can improve and go on a run of a few wins, so that’s really good news. It takes more than one team to improve form. It would requires others as well and if teams down the bottom to improve form will take points of each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 February, 2020 Author Share Posted 29 February, 2020 It takes more than one team to improve form. It would requires others as well and if teams down the bottom to improve form will take points of each other. You are correct sir. However, we play all of the teams below us and based on the way we’ve played in recent weeks, 3 of those points will be from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 You are correct sir. However, we play all of the teams below us and based on the way we’ve played in recent weeks, 3 of those points will be from us. Funny, thought we beat Villa last week. Was that a dream? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 It’s still possible we’ll go down of course, but if you’re betting on it and get anything less than about 90-1, it’s a bad value bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 If you think we are already safe, you have a problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 Funny, thought we beat Villa last week. Was that a dream? Yep. So was the win at Villa Park. And Norwich, Watford and Brighton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 If you think we are already safe, you have a problem!We are safe. We will not get relegated. Absolutely delighted to see SKD going into absolute meltdown yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 Absolutely no way a team in 18th place can improve and go on a run of a few wins, so that’s really good news.Just to check, if it was us in 18th place on 27 points you'd be on this forum absolutely adamant that we'd be staying up, yes? Because you have a very impressive unshakeable belief in the imminent and breathtaking turnaround in form of the teams on 27 points that surely it means you'd prefer that to be our situation too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 We are safe. We will not get relegated. Absolutely delighted to see SKD going into absolute meltdown yet again. I'm sure we will be safe, but wouldn't say we are safe, lose the next two games and I'll be worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 We are safe. We will not get relegated. Absolutely delighted to see SKD going into absolute meltdown yet again. Spot on. We are currently on all the statistical prediction sites at 0.8% - 1% probability of finishing 18th. 0.8% - 1%. Chances of finishing below that are at zero. People see ‘7 points off the relegation zone’ and panic because they don’t understand what else has to happen for us to drop into the bottom three, and the almost complete improbability of that happening. Still, it keeps the bedwetters nice and moist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 We are safe. We will not get relegated. Absolutely delighted to see SKD going into absolute meltdown yet again. Sorry, I was just quoting Ralph. I think we are safe but I must have a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 February, 2020 Author Share Posted 29 February, 2020 We are safe. We will not get relegated. Absolutely delighted to see SKD going into absolute meltdown yet again. No meltdown here buddy. But we’ll done for being foolish enough to take the bait.... again :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 February, 2020 Author Share Posted 29 February, 2020 I'm sure we will be safe, but wouldn't say we are safe, lose the next two games and I'll be worried. This is 100% correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 February, 2020 Author Share Posted 29 February, 2020 Spot on. We are currently on all the statistical prediction sites at 0.8% - 1% probability of finishing 18th. 0.8% - 1%. Chances of finishing below that are at zero. People see ‘7 points off the relegation zone’ and panic because they don’t understand what else has to happen for us to drop into the bottom three, and the almost complete improbability of that happening. Still, it keeps the bedwetters nice and moist. What were the odds or % probability of Watford beating Liverpool today or us going on a freak run over December / Jan? With respect, lose the next 2 and that probability will massively increase. Hence why it’s absolutely pointless looking at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 Yeah, if we lose the next two, then the two after that, then the next two, then two more, we might find ourselves needing a win in one of our last two games. I won’t sleep tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 Yeah, if we lose the next two, then the two after that, then the next two, then two more, we might find ourselves needing a win in one of our last two games. I won’t sleep tonight. Complacency is a dangerous mistress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 February, 2020 Author Share Posted 29 February, 2020 Just to check, if it was us in 18th place on 27 points you'd be on this forum absolutely adamant that we'd be staying up, yes? Because you have a very impressive unshakeable belief in the imminent and breathtaking turnaround in form of the teams on 27 points that surely it means you'd prefer that to be our situation too? Is 2 wins more than us what you’d consider a breathtaking turnaround in form? When every one of those teams plays us? When you consider our recent history of finishing seasons limp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 Is 2 wins more than us what you’d consider a breathtaking turnaround in form? When every one of those teams plays us? When you consider our recent history of finishing seasons limp...Four teams would have to get two more wins than us over the next ten games and at least another point as well as Newcastle having better form than us. Those four teams have got either 6 or 7 wins over the last 28 games so our form would have to absolutely fall off a cliff to the point that we fail to get about 4 points in the next ten games (a worse run of form than at any other point this season) and each of those four teams would have to improve their win ratio by about a third with a quarter of the season remaining. Statistically that is so incredibly unlikely that you really should be sticking the house on it if you think it's going to happen. We could lose our next 7 games in a row which isn't going to happen, win our 8th game and we will still stay up. Safe safe safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 We won't be relegated - but we looked like a relegation team today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 (edited) Is 2 wins more than us what you’d consider a breathtaking turnaround in form? When every one of those teams plays us? When you consider our recent history of finishing seasons limp...Why do you have so much belief that a team in 18th with 27 points is going to get the wins and points required but the team in 13th starting seven points ahead aren't going to? Why would you rather be 18th than 13th? It's a bit, y'know, fu cking mental ain't it? Edited 29 February, 2020 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 Another year of breathtaking sustainability awaits. I remember as kid in the play ground refusing to be Alan shearer we could not be a sustainable team unless we sold him, I chose to be Neil Maddison instead, dreaming of average academy groomed players playing in a sustainable business model team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 What were the odds or % probability of Watford beating Liverpool today or us going on a freak run over December / Jan? With respect, lose the next 2 and that probability will massively increase. Hence why it’s absolutely pointless looking at it. You’re proving my point. It’s not about one game or one team or even a run of games; it’s multiple teams over the whole season - what has been and what’s still to come. Are you suggesting all 7 of the teams below us - ignoring the fact many play each other - will all go on sudden incredible runs whilst we pick up zero points? It won’t happen. We won’t go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 back in the relegation fight! #draggedbackin You two actually seem to want us to go down just to prove a point.... Wow We will not go down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 You two actually seem to want us to go down just to prove a point.... Wow We will not go down Utter bo11ox as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 Utter bo11ox as usual Pot ,kettle... Youve been hanging around waiting for me all evening...Bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 Pot ,kettle... Youve been hanging around waiting for me all evening...Bless Yeah course I have,if it makes you feel better about yourself carry on thinking that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 Why do you have so much belief that a team in 18th with 27 points is going to get the wins and points required but the team in 13th starting seven points ahead aren't going to? Why would you rather be 18th than 13th? It's a bit, y'know, fu cking mental ain't it?And also the team in 17th, and 16th, and 15th, and 14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 Another year of breathtaking sustainability awaits. I remember as kid in the play ground refusing to be Alan shearer we could not be a sustainable team unless we sold him, I chose to be Neil Maddison instead, dreaming of average academy groomed players playing in a sustainable business model team. I was Glen Cockerill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 March, 2020 Share Posted 1 March, 2020 Just did a predictor with an insanely unlikely set of results. I saw us picking up two more points all season and was overly generous to every team below us. We still stayed up with a loss on the last day finishing above Brighton and well clear of villa and Norwich. Safe safe safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 1 March, 2020 Author Share Posted 1 March, 2020 Four teams would have to get two more wins than us over the next ten games and at least another point as well as Newcastle having better form than us. Those four teams have got either 6 or 7 wins over the last 28 games so our form would have to absolutely fall off a cliff to the point that we fail to get about 4 points in the next ten games (a worse run of form than at any other point this season) and each of those four teams would have to improve their win ratio by about a third with a quarter of the season remaining. Statistically that is so incredibly unlikely that you really should be sticking the house on it if you think it's going to happen. We could lose our next 7 games in a row which isn't going to happen, win our 8th game and we will still stay up. Safe safe safe. You miss understand, I don’t think we will go down. I just don’t think we’re as safe as everyone makes out and we cannot afford to continue to put in performances like we have against Burnley and West Ham. Which is pretty much what Ralph said after the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 March, 2020 Share Posted 1 March, 2020 You miss understand, I don’t think we will go down. I just don’t think we’re as safe as everyone makes out and we cannot afford to continue to put in performances like we have against Burnley and West Ham. Which is pretty much what Ralph said after the game You're either safe or you're not. Do you accept that the scenario I posted is insanely unlikely? If so then you agree with everyone else that relegation isn't going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 1 March, 2020 Share Posted 1 March, 2020 We are not safe until we are mathematically safe. Next weekend will have quite a bit of pressure on us....if we lose we are back in the mix. And psychologically a loss could be damaging. Unexpected results happen,and clubs in and around us could pull off some shocks. We don’t seem to have too much fight in us...very lightweight in areas,Hasenhüttl appears to have gone back to his tinkering and trying to be clever and putting square pegs in round holes with his team selections. I don’t think we will be in a relegation scrap come the end of the season....but I wouldn’t back us if we were. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopper Posted 1 March, 2020 Share Posted 1 March, 2020 According to Jenas we need another 5 points (from 10 games) - surely that`s nailed on even for Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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