Matthew Le God Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 19 minutes ago, skintsaint said: if we struggled to pay supposedly 75k per week for RLC's wages....Walcott is probably on similar. On what is that based? We haven't got a wage bill as big as ours without players on that kind of salary and bigger. Plus some look to be shifted from the wage bill soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 14 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: On what is that based? We haven't got a wage bill as big as ours without players on that kind of salary and bigger. Plus some look to be shifted from the wage bill soon. Forget your tedious attempts at playing Plato/Socrates, Theo would be a bad signing. Too high a wage for a bit-part player with a poor injury record, less pace than he once had (his main asset) and not good enough to start. He wouldn’t even be 3rd pick. I’d rather have a youngster learning the trade as our 4th choice and spend our very obviously limited resources elsewhere. Theo is a nice signing on a sentimental level and that’s it. We don’t have the money to be sentimental, and if it meant that much to him he should have made a different choice 2 years ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulwantsapint81 Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Surely signing squad players is what cost saints so badly when we were in europa action we used to go for 1st 11 players & the original player became the squad player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBitterne Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Walcott would be shite. Pointless player who has lost his one exciting asset, pace. Would much rather smith Rowe or Nelson, preferably the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Would be a strange move that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 You'd only guess he would come in if Vokins is going out on loan and we're getting three in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Williams is decent but will be relegated to 3rd choice when Telles signs. Loan for Vokins makes a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Williams link is bizarre. We don't need him as we already have a young talented back up. If Utd want to develop him, surely they'd loan him somewhere he'd play, like championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Can’t see it but won’t go away https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-southampton-stoke-city-open-talks-over-swap-deal/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 AM link https://sportslens.com/newcastle-united-now-reportedly-facing-southampton-competition-for-wylan-cyprien/317281/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Just now, Toadhall Saint said: AM link https://sportslens.com/newcastle-united-now-reportedly-facing-southampton-competition-for-wylan-cyprien/317281/ Nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint97 Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Brandon Williams on loan - Would be a brilliant signing! Gives us cover on both sides - much better than Valery and Vokins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, saint97 said: Brandon Williams on loan - Would be a brilliant signing! Gives us cover on both sides - much better than Valery and Vokins. How would Williams benefit from being backup at one club to going on loan and being back up at another club? Loans for young players work if there is a good chance of playing, being second fiddle to Ryan Bertrand won't help Man Utd or Williams and blocks Vokins development at Saints. Edited 4 October, 2020 by Matthew Le God 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Don’t rate Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorchester Saint Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 26 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: Can’t see it but won’t go away https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-southampton-stoke-city-open-talks-over-swap-deal/ Swap deals rarely happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 1 minute ago, Dorchester Saint said: Swap deals rarely happen. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Never watched williams but he doesnt fit in with Ralphs mood from Fri when talking about signings, he'd be a low key one to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Dorchester Saint said: Swap deals rarely happen. Nor does anything Wayne Veysey writes in an article. Football Insider is a click bait website. Edited 4 October, 2020 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Williams is a fantastic prospect. Two footed, very attacking fullback. Get forward, whips in crosses and causes problems. He was their MOTM againnst Burnley last season and in general did OK in all the games he played. I don't think Shaw was an improvement when he came back to fitness. They might have been a bit more solid, but mostly because Shaw never really charges forward any more. Not sure how far Vokes is away from being good enough for the Prem, but if not close enough this would be a good signing for us. Not sure how likely it is as United would want him to get games. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chez said: Williams is a fantastic prospect. Two footed, very attacking fullback. Get forward, whips in crosses and causes problems. He was their MOTM againnst Burnley last season and in general did OK in all the games he played. I don't think Shaw was an improvement when he came back to fitness. They might have been a bit more solid, but mostly because Shaw never really charges forward any more. Not sure how far Vokes is away from being good enough for the Prem, but if not close enough this would be a good signing for us. Not sure how likely it is as United would want him to get games. Might need him after today’s display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Is it possible Ralph sees something in Williams that would make him a viable option for one of the attacking positions too? If he can play either side of full back and in a forward position, then it may make sense to bring him in as a good utility. Otherwise, I can’t see it makes much sense to use our only Prem loan on a back up full back when we have one for each side already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 7 minutes ago, saintwbu said: Is it possible Ralph sees something in Williams that would make him a viable option for one of the attacking positions too? If he can play either side of full back and in a forward position, then it may make sense to bring him in as a good utility. Otherwise, I can’t see it makes much sense to use our only Prem loan on a back up full back when we have one for each side already. A club can loan two players at any time. Only one from the same club at any time. Over the course of one season you can have 4 loans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Maybe cover for both full back positions Give Bertie a rest? Issues with Valery off field still not settled. (Guess)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Just now, Give it to Ron said: Maybe cover for both full back positions Give Bertie a rest? Issues with Valery off field still not settled. (Guess)? Valery has been on the bench throughout this season and was so again today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Williams is decent, can play both sides. And he’ll push Valery further down the pecking order which would be an unexpected bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 23 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Valery has been on the bench throughout this season and was so again today. Does that stop issues raising in near future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Just now, Give it to Ron said: Does that stop issues raising in near future? Couldn't the same be applied to any player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: Couldn't the same be applied to any player? Forget it can’t be arsed to explain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Williams would be a very odd signing if true. We have two first choice full backs already, so he'd be coming here as cover from a club he's already cover. Makes no sense for Man Utd, us or Williams. Unless we're braced for a deadline move for Bertrand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 1 minute ago, Give it to Ron said: Forget it can’t be arsed to explain Innocent until proven guilty. Plus given the length of time since the accusations it appears nothing is happening on that front and it may even have been fabricated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 30 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Valery has been on the bench throughout this season and was so again today. You missed out the fact he isn't a competent defender in the Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Appy said: You missed out the fact he isn't a competent defender in the Premier League I agree that is true, but it is irrelevant to my point that him being on the bench shows any off field issues are not preventing him from being used in the squad. Edited 4 October, 2020 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Unless we're braced for a deadline move for Bertrand That thought did cross my mind! Talk of him signing a new contract seems to have gone a tad quiet... Edited 4 October, 2020 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 4 hours ago, LeG said: Theo Please god no. The modern day equivalent of signing Stuart Ripley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 31 minutes ago, trousers said: That thought did cross my mind! Talk of him signing a new contract seems to have gone a tad quiet... Bertrand won't be going anywhere, not in this window anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Get on the blower to Klopp and loan Divock Orgi. He could do a job extra firepower up top win win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Not sure anybody that is saying Williams can "play both sides" or is "two footed" has ever actually watched him play? He's so incredibly one-footed and only plays LB for United due to lack of other options. He is a right back and also seems to be playing most of United's games recently. Doubt they are signing Telles or anyone else so Williams will stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 United seem to want to have a clause included where Williams is certain to play, this means this deal is a non starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Is there still a chance to get Boufal and Hoedt off the wage bill? It seems Vest and Fraser have a future here after all, which is good. Slowly we are ridding ourselves of the dead wood and building a positive squad. Credit to the manager and the Board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Interested to see that Grujic not even on Liverpool's bench tonight after what was described as a good performance the other night. He must be some way down the pecking order so maybe some mileage in him going out on loan. Whether to us or not is another matter. Unless Klopp looks to rethink after the firsts half at Villa Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmysaint7 Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, igsey said: Not sure anybody that is saying Williams can "play both sides" or is "two footed" has ever actually watched him play? He's so incredibly one-footed and only plays LB for United due to lack of other options. He is a right back and also seems to be playing most of United's games recently. Doubt they are signing Telles or anyone else so Williams will stay. Hes a decent player and very much able to use both feet.dare I say but he's prob better than vokins Edited 4 October, 2020 by jimmysaint7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 32 minutes ago, Badger said: Interested to see that Grujic not even on Liverpool's bench tonight after what was described as a good performance the other night. He must be some way down the pecking order so maybe some mileage in him going out on loan. Whether to us or not is another matter. Unless Klopp looks to rethink after the firsts half at Villa Park. I think signing Diallo has closed off any Grujic talk. Winger or bust tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Did I read it right that Ralph is hoping for another 2 or 3 signings?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Just now, Saint_clark said: Did I read it right that Ralph is hoping for another 2 or 3 signings?? Probably just 1, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 From Sky: Quote Southampton have made an enquiry to Manchester United over a potential deal for defender Brandon Williams. Ralph Hasenhüttl has not hidden his desire to strengthen before Monday’s international and Premier League deadline, and the full-back position is an area he would like to add to. Manchester United are currently focusing on incomings but it’s believed any potential loan deal would come with an attachment that Williams would have to play games, which Southampton can’t guarantee. It’s thought a deal at this stage looks unlikely, but the south-coast club have not written off a potential late move on deadline day. Williams has found his game-time limited to the Carabao Cup this season and with Alex Telles' move from Porto imminent, the Mancunian may be keen to head out to play regularly. Truly bizarre. Why do we need to add to full back? Let's see what happens. This signing would confuse the f*k out of me if it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: From Sky: Truly bizarre. Why do we need to add to full back? Let's see what happens. This signing would confuse the f*k out of me if it happens. Can he play further forward? Got a lot of pace and a decent cross on him. The modern day Gareth Bale 😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Williams would be odd to say the least. He wouldn’t come on loan just to sit on our bench and he’s no obvious improvement on either side of defence. I still think my Rom is leaving next summer and Diallo isn’t necessarily a starter every game theory has legs. With that flight from Liverpool (which could be anything TBF) and Grujic not in Liverpool’s squad today, it’s plausible although if I were a betting man it’d be on an AM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 Just now, Lighthouse said: Williams would be odd to say the least. He wouldn’t come on loan just to sit on our bench and he’s no obvious improvement on either side of defence. I still think my Rom is leaving next summer and Diallo isn’t necessarily a starter every game theory has legs. With that flight from Liverpool (which could be anything TBF) and Grujic not in Liverpool’s squad today, it’s plausible although if I were a betting man it’d be on an AM. Gruijc should be straight in that Liverpool midfield! They had no one in there today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifter Posted 4 October, 2020 Share Posted 4 October, 2020 3 hours ago, S-Clarke said: We have two first choice full backs already, so he'd be coming here as cover from a club he's already cover. Makes no sense for Man Utd, us or Williams. As of tomorrow, he'll be third choice at Utd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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