beatlesaint Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 2 minutes ago, Appy said: Can't see West Ham entertaining a deal for Rice in this window, their fans would probably riot. Then again, it's Gold, Sullivan and Brady. Declan Rice. Now there’s an over rated player if ever there was one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 What a signing for Villa that is. They’ve done great business. Meanwhile, I’ll be stunned if we get RLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSmithy97 Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 We have to scrape around in the last few days to get deals done and Villa who were our relegation rival last year can pull off signings like this. Shame because with a player like Barkley we would really kick on and be pushing for Europe. Our lack of spending has put us straight back in a relegation battle. https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1311236346745323521 https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2020/september/Villa-announce-Barkley-loan-signing/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Lat Pahars Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 6 minutes ago, SaintSmithy97 said: We have to scrape around in the last few days to get deals done and Villa who were our relegation rival last year can pull off signings like this. Shame because with a player like Barkley we would really kick on and be pushing for Europe. Our lack of spending has put us straight back in a relegation battle. https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1311236346745323521 https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2020/september/Villa-announce-Barkley-loan-signing/ Relegation rivals? I thought we finished 11th, 18 points above relegation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSmithy97 Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 Just now, Little Lat Pahars said: Relegation rivals? I thought we finished 11th, 18 points above relegation? We were for sure out that battle with 6 games to go, however, for the majority of the season we were looking at Villa, hoping they dropped points so yes, a relegation rival. Frustrating our owner can't back us in the market like Villa's or we'd be competing for top 8... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 Just now, SaintSmithy97 said: We were for sure out that battle with 6 games to go, however, for the majority of the season we were looking at Villa, hoping they dropped points so yes, a relegation rival. Frustrating our owner can't back us in the market like Villa's or we'd be competing for top 8... We were basically safe when we beat Palace in mid January. Anyway, Barkley has done bugger all since he was injured at Everton 3 years ago. He could find a second wind at Villa but I can’t say I’m green with envy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 I'm also not geeen with envy BUT u would take Barclay over Davies/tella/smallbone all day long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 48 minutes ago, DT said: Villa now mid-table finish. Us, not so much. (until we get a Cheeky loan) Why is everything 'cheeky' nowadays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 There's not even any credible links are there, a couple of reports that we've show an interest in but nothing concrete at all. What an absolute shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 28 minutes ago, Greenridge said: Why is everything 'cheeky' nowadays? Maybe our loan target is a Ruben Loftus-Cheeky loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 29 minutes ago, SaintSmithy97 said: We were for sure out that battle with 6 games to go, however, for the majority of the season we were looking at Villa, hoping they dropped points so yes, a relegation rival. Frustrating our owner can't back us in the market like Villa's or we'd be competing for top 8... You mean back us as in spend hundreds of millions to so far finish 1 point above relegation last year? Like Fulham spent well over £100 million to get relegated? Compared to Sheff Utd who have not spent anything like what Fulham or Villa spent and finished above us. Improving your squad is one thing but just throwing money at anything that moves is not exactly a way to build a team. Plus people forget its easier for promoted clubs to spend money because they have budgets and lots of players wages that are basically at championship level and then get £100 million plus thrown at them which allows them to expand their squads and signings quickly. Whereas if you look at the table above, the more established PL clubs there who will have players on PL wages like us, Burnley, Brighton, West Ham, Newcastle etc. are not spending the same level because FFP restricts how much you can increase your wage budget. 27 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: We were basically safe when we beat Palace in mid January. Anyway, Barkley has done bugger all since he was injured at Everton 3 years ago. He could find a second wind at Villa but I can’t say I’m green with envy. Not getting the Barkley love in either, over hyped teenager who has pretty much sat on Chelsea's bench for 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 Have never seen anything special in Barkley other than odd flashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 Just now, Teddeer said: Have never seen anything special in Barkley other than odd flashes. No, you're thinking of Neil Shipperley. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 8 minutes ago, tajjuk said: You mean back us as in spend hundreds of millions to so far finish 1 point above relegation last year? Like Fulham spent well over £100 million to get relegated? Compared to Sheff Utd who have not spent anything like what Fulham or Villa spent and finished above us. Improving your squad is one thing but just throwing money at anything that moves is not exactly a way to build a team. Plus people forget its easier for promoted clubs to spend money because they have budgets and lots of players wages that are basically at championship level and then get £100 million plus thrown at them which allows them to expand their squads and signings quickly. Whereas if you look at the table above, the more established PL clubs there who will have players on PL wages like us, Burnley, Brighton, West Ham, Newcastle etc. are not spending the same level because FFP restricts how much you can increase your wage budget. Not getting the Barkley love in either, over hyped teenager who has pretty much sat on Chelsea's bench for 3 years. I actually think Villa are building a decent team / squad TBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 5 minutes ago, Teddeer said: Have never seen anything special in Barkley other than odd flashes. I'd take odd flashes at the moment.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Turkish said: There's not even any credible links are there, a couple of reports that we've show an interest in but nothing concrete at all. What an absolute shambles. Would hope we know who we are going for and have made firm moves in the last couple of days. Assuming Sangare was the target we missed out on (as reported by Blackmore), Ralph seemed confident we had other options available, rather than concerned. Presume he will do a presser Friday, will be interesting to see what he says as by then if not much is expected it will be very disappointing and will suggest its gone further wrong. The best deals of this last week will be done before the weekend IMO. Hopefully the Diallo talk from l'equipe comes to something. https://www.nhnieuws.nl/nieuws/273829/southampton-niet-concreet-voor-interessante-speler-joey-veerman A scout for Saints in Holland suggests we are watching Veerman but won't move for him yet as he isnt PL ready off the ball and says we are suprised Sangare opted for PSV over Saints...noyhing about work permit. Then for the second signing (maybe Sessegnon on loan?) it is surely dependent upon Boufal...and thats gone quiet. Edited 30 September, 2020 by Dusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 4 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: I'd take odd flashes at the moment.. I’ll PM you my number 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 I wish we were Aston Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBitterne Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 Really don't get the hype with Villa. Yes they've improved well in some areas. They are also still playing Matt Targett at left back. Furthermore, they've played the worse 2 teams in the league so far. Far too early for hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 58 minutes ago, Greenridge said: Why is everything 'cheeky' nowadays? whoosh Loftus Cheeky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 1 hour ago, beatlesaint said: Declan Rice. Now there’s an over rated player if ever there was one. he was bloody amazing against us a couple of seasons ago at SMS. Best player on the pitch by a country mile. Perhaps that was as good as it got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 20 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: I'd take odd flashes at the moment.. some on here would take Neil Shipperley. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 Isn't he bezzie mates with Mount, hence transfer to be with his fwend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, SuperSAINT said: it suggests we will hold out for a loan until the window closes and if nothing happens we will make some sort of agreement with him. It also suggests our loan demands have put a few off. I wonder what terms he will agree to? 75% of his wages for the final 11 months of his contract? If thats the case, then it means we can't even get someone to pay more than 25% of his wages. Now clubs know we will pay him off, they will just wait for that to happen. Edited 30 September, 2020 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 15 hours ago, Chez said: Leeds agree a £20m fee for Michael Cuisance. I like the look of him a lot. Not a holding midfielder we need, but technically really good. scrub that, fee now appears to be £9m. This is in our price range, we have previous dealings for Bayern, we need midfield creativity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archers Road Stand Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 5 hours ago, SaintsFan86 said: Guido Carillo to have his contract terminated. This has to go down as the biggest waste of money in the clubs history?! Hes comfortably the worst signing in the history of the Premier League. Its infuriating that Les Reed and Ross Wilson left here with strong reputations after shite like this. The media even referred Wilson as a transfer guru when he went to Rangers. 🤢 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 4 hours ago, skintsaint said: Carrillo off the books...should free up half of what he was on (as he must of been paid off a percentage).... Boufal v.soon hopefully gone too..... Hoedt & Lemona next summer..... Hoedt and Lemina signed five year deals, I think, so he might be with us until 2022, unless it all goes well with their loans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 Who's that little Scottish 13 year old or whatever that plays for Chelsea and everyone raved about for about a week last season, Can't we sign him on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hatch said: Who's that little Scottish 13 year old or whatever that plays for Chelsea and everyone raved about for about a week last season, Can't we sign him on loan. Billy Gilmour. Main worry with him is he is tiny and slight, he's more like a sitting playmaker type than a box to box or defensive midfielder, he'd make JWP look big I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 18 minutes ago, Hatch said: Who's that little Scottish 13 year old or whatever that plays for Chelsea and everyone raved about for about a week last season, Can't we sign him on loan. 12 minutes ago, tajjuk said: Billy Gilmour. Main worry with him is he is tiny and slight, he's more like a sitting playmaker type than a box to box or defensive midfielder, he'd make JWP look big I think. Has an injury at the mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 3 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Has an injury at the mo. Didn't stop us with Salisu. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint97 Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 18 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Didn't stop us with Salisu. Salisu isn't a one season loan 👍 Gilmour is out till November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 Lookman to Fulham. (sighs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 are we still looking behind the sofa for a couple of quid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 1 start last year, pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 Just found this website to help review these random players, quite good also show that statsbomb spiderweb as well https://www.footballcritic.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambtiss Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 1 hour ago, Chez said: he was bloody amazing against us a couple of seasons ago at SMS. Best player on the pitch by a country mile. Perhaps that was as good as it got? You're right, he controlled the game. Havent seen him play like that since though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 28 minutes ago, DT said: Lookman to Fulham. (sighs) Fulham ....you Wonder why Fulham? maybe you need to think about things ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 (edited) Genuine question - what type of central midfielder are we after ? I think it is too simplistic to say CM or DM, they need to have certain qualities for Ralphs system, how do they compare to JWP, do we need more creative or just a destroyer to fit in our system of collective pressing and disruption ? So I have had a look at the last 3 linked and compared them with JWP - personally I like Veermans decisiveness as i think that is missing from a lot of our players Edited 30 September, 2020 by Convict Colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALK DMC Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 5 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Genuine question - what type of central midfielder are we after ? I think it is too simplistic to say CM or DM, they need to have certain qualities for Ralphs system, how do they compare to JWP, do we need more creative or just a destroyer to fit in our system of collective pressing and disruption ? So I have had a look at the last 3 linked and compared them with JWP Great info - thanks for producing this ... In summary Sangare and Diallo are both genuine defensive midfielders while Veerman is more creative but limited physically and defensively. As they are complementary it would be nice to think that we could buy both Diallo and Veerman. (I know, I'll wake up from that dream in a minute). Thanks again - very interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 7 minutes ago, Appy said: What’s the point in him putting this out there and potentially alerting other clubs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 (edited) Interesting I think this is the dude that got Seager into Telstar and also I think Slattery into De Graaf. I would be surprised if the scouts know who we are going to buy yet as I thought they just were creating profiles and giving updates etc and the powers that be decide. If we arent interested in Veermans then what is the point of the scout being there last week ? Very strange all of this and his feedback on Sangarre doesnt tie in with Blackmore saying we didnt get a work permit ? A link - https://www.nhnieuws.nl/nieuws/273829/southampton-niet-concreet-voor-interessante-speler-joey-veerman From this article: (dunno maybe trying to not sound too interested before we bid ?) "He is not yet good enough defensively. The pace is still a bit too low and the switch could be better. He is Premier League-worthy on the ball, but without the ball he still has to take a few steps." Edited 30 September, 2020 by Convict Colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 Diallo and Capoue on loan would be my picks, with Veerman coming in January / next summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 We seem suddenly keen on French players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 13 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: Diallo and Capoue on loan would be my picks, with Veerman coming in January / next summer Capoue would be my choice too but absolutely no chance or in our profiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 We don't have a funking clue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 30 September, 2020 Share Posted 30 September, 2020 When does the transfer window close? It's not looking good to bring in the "minimum 2 maybe 3" players that Ralph wanted... I do have some real concerns for us this season if we go into the season like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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