SuperSAINT Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 6 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Interesting dig from PSV there! I think that's pretty clear we didn't get our shit in line for this one! Don't know anything about him to be honest, but it's another kick in the balls to our transfer plans. I wonder if this was who Ralph was referring to as our 'first targets we missed out on' - or was that more Mckennie? Bit of both. Sangare much cheaper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 2 hours ago, Appy said: The work permit isn't an excuse at all, they've had so much time to sort a midfielder out, it's embarrassing. This one million percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 13 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Interesting dig from PSV there! I think that's pretty clear we didn't get our shit in line for this one! Don't know anything about him to be honest, but it's another kick in the balls to our transfer plans. I wonder if this was who Ralph was referring to as our 'first targets we missed out on' - or was that more Mckennie? SFC hasn’t had its shit together for four years, ever since Ronald left and especially since the Fonte January window debacle. Squad needs major strengthening so loans it is. Not ideal but tides Ralph over until we can get rid of Gao and co for good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 6 minutes ago, saint1977 said: SFC hasn’t had its shit together for four years, ever since Ronald left and especially since the Fonte January window debacle. Squad needs major strengthening so loans it is. Not ideal but tides Ralph over until we can get rid of Gao and co for good Our hands are tied by the Legacy of Reed. The man came far to close to ruining us. I used to moan that he hamstrung our potential. Now I am just greatful that we seem to have survived Reed without getting relegated and entering adminstration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 I can see a double deadline day loan signing of Tom Davies and Theo Walcott coming up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 34 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Interesting dig from PSV there! I think that's pretty clear we didn't get our shit in line for this one! Don't know anything about him to be honest, but it's another kick in the balls to our transfer plans. I wonder if this was who Ralph was referring to as our 'first targets we missed out on' - or was that more Mckennie? There’s clearly more to this than is in the public domain. I don’t care what anyone says about big clubs and history, players and agents don’t choose Eredivisie over the Premier League in 2020. As skint as we are, I can’t see that having sold PEH we couldn’t budget £8m for a replacement. If things really are THAT bad, why bid for him in the first place? I think McK was the one we ‘missed out on’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: There’s clearly more to this than is in the public domain. I don’t care what anyone says about big clubs and history, players and agents don’t choose Eredivisie over the Premier League in 2020. As skint as we are, I can’t see that having sold PEH we couldn’t budget £8m for a replacement. If things really are THAT bad, why bid for him in the first place? I think McK was the one we ‘missed out on’. Unless Gao won’t sanction any major buys until the club is sold, that could be another take... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 7 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: I don’t care what anyone says about big clubs and history, players and agents don’t choose Eredivisie over the Premier League in 2020. Clearly you are wrong in 2020. Choosing a Big 3 (or especially 2) Eredivise Club against a bottom half PL club is really quite an easy decision to make. We aren't signing (foreign) players because they don't want to come here. They see no prospect of winning anything, wages are not significantly better, Staplewood is not really the big draw that MLG suggests (was it ever?), playing in a system that means you have to work hard closing down, Brexit, bungling Govt covid-19 regulations. Players also will look at how its worked out here for other players recently. Ralph is not a big draw. We really aren't such an attraction any more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 4 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: Clearly you are wrong in 2020. Choosing a Big 3 (or especially 2) Eredivise Club against a bottom half PL club is really quite an easy decision to make. We aren't signing (foreign) players because they don't want to come here. They see no prospect of winning anything, wages are not significantly better, Staplewood is not really the big draw that MLG suggests (was it ever?), playing in a system that means you have to work hard closing down, Brexit, bungling Govt covid-19 regulations. Players also will look at how its worked out here for other players recently. Ralph is not a big draw. We really aren't such an attraction any more. Did a check on voetbalzone cos I know they dont pay that well here and last year the estimate average salary for a eredivise player was 291k euro a year with ziyech being the top on 4mil a year or 70k pounds a week. Am guessing PSV would be paying Sangare around 30-40 euro a week max for a DM - plus factor in finances due to covid and no fans in stadiums either I'd guess closer to 30k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 Don't forget there was the interview with Semmens a while back that seemed to indicate we were seemingly gambling on prices in certain leagues coming down by the end of the window so lets see if that happens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 (edited) Is there actually any firm evidence that we made Sangare an offer and he turned us down? Edited 28 September, 2020 by sadoldgit Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 1 minute ago, sadoldgit said: Is there actually any form evidence that we made Sangare an offer and he turned us down? Nah just paper talk in the dutch papers about being interested on weds but that could be them pumping up their own tyres. The main insight I got from the PSV forum was he is tall and they dont like the french. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 1 minute ago, Convict Colony said: Nah just paper talk in the dutch papers about being interested on weds but that could be them pumping up their own tyres. The main insight I got from the PSV forum was he is tall and they dont like the french. Fitted our profile exactly. I would be surprised if we weren't in for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, SuperSAINT said: Fitted our profile exactly. I would be surprised if we weren't in for him. Nah bro we are going to get a rolls royce of a centre midfielder that is going to be our pressing king in the midfield and score goals for fun. Edited 28 September, 2020 by Convict Colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 Schneider wouldn’t confirm the identity of McKennie’s other suitors, but Sports Illustrated understands that Southampton initially was the most interested team beyond German borders. So he probably was our main target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 1 minute ago, Convict Colony said: Schneider wouldn’t confirm the identity of McKennie’s other suitors, but Sports Illustrated understands that Southampton initially was the most interested team beyond German borders. So he probably was our main target Def but wages were HIGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 43 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: Clearly you are wrong in 2020. Choosing a Big 3 (or especially 2) Eredivise Club against a bottom half PL club is really quite an easy decision to make. We aren't signing (foreign) players because they don't want to come here. They see no prospect of winning anything, wages are not significantly better, Staplewood is not really the big draw that MLG suggests (was it ever?), playing in a system that means you have to work hard closing down, Brexit, bungling Govt covid-19 regulations. Players also will look at how its worked out here for other players recently. Ralph is not a big draw. We really aren't such an attraction any more. I agree, proven by Peiters, Propper and Wijnaldum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 17 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Def but wages were HIGH. It's weird that we even thought that was a goer, he was already on huge wages. It wouldn't take much for the club to do the initial due diligence on those elements before wasting any time on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 4 hours ago, DT said: Depressing to even think for one millisecond that winning on the weekend might have dampened our search for new players but the delay in lining up a central midfielder is tantamount to negligence. Really think we must be absolutely skint or run by people with very little experience of how transfers work. Both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangelyBrown Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 12 minutes ago, adriansfc said: Would totally take Theo on loan, great move for both parties. We need extra forward/no10 options, he is more of a goal threat than Redmond/Djenpo, we wouldn't be committing a huge transfer fee. We have plenty of younger players to develop, we need a little balance with experience. I'm not sure Theo would offer us anything. He's not been very good for some time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint97 Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 Sessegnon would be a weird loan signing if there's no option/obligation to buy - Not guaranteed game time with us too. Much rather get someone that is suited to playing on the right of the two 10's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Troy Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 4 minutes ago, StrangelyBrown said: I'm not sure Theo would offer us anything. He's not been very good for some time now. sadly not being very good isn't the bench mark for not offering us something in some positions right now! Its more than reasonable to ask if we want to block tellas "pathway" for someone like Theo but i honestly think Theo would offer us more coming on than tella does for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fookwit Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 2 hours ago, stevy777_x said: I can see a double deadline day loan signing of Tom Davies and Theo Walcott coming up... Only allowed to get one player on loan from a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 4 minutes ago, Fookwit said: Only allowed to get one player on loan from a club. Maybe that Les Reed telegraph article was right all along with Walcott & Sessegnon linked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 Re outs: I can us coming to an agreement with Carillo and allowing him to then join another club on a free. Praying Hoedt joins Lazio. Its gone quiet with Boufal the last day or so. Likes of Sims, Hesketh etc can move on loan during the EFL window, til mid October I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 4 hours ago, WALK DMC said: One player that I'm surprised that we haven't been linked with is Lerma from Bournemouth. His first season in the Premiership was very successful although his performances seemed to drop last season. He has premiership experience, is a defensive midfielder, plays the high press and is probably available due to their relegation. I cannot see any rumours linking him to any other team in the last week. Maybe Bournemouth are asking too much, hence the absence of clear suitors, but in the absence of anyone else he would be the type of individual we could be looking at (particularly as we are getting pretty desperate for a DM). He wouldn't be my first choice, but seems a logical possibility. In my house we have wanted Lerma or Billing as a naturally athletic midfield signing all summer. Billing gets goals too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicBoom Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 It's strange that Bournemouth had all these amazing players....but the team were actually a load of utter ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 Sign Mady Camara you cowards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 28 minutes ago, Dusic said: Re outs: I can us coming to an agreement with Carillo and allowing him to then join another club on a free. Praying Hoedt joins Lazio. Its gone quiet with Boufal the last day or so. Likes of Sims, Hesketh etc can move on loan during the EFL window, til mid October I think. I can the following panning out: - Carillo leaves on mutual concent (To be done after the transfer window) - Boufal stays with no replacement lined up (especially as prem loan will be done for CM) - we loan a CM from another prem team as no money for a permanent signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 Wasn't the plan to leave it late in the window when the prices being asked will drop. Me thinks we are leaving it too late and heading for another catastrophic shit show of a transfer window. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 38 minutes ago, stevy777_x said: I can the following panning out: - Carillo leaves on mutual concent (To be done after the transfer window) - Boufal stays with no replacement lined up (especially as prem loan will be done for CM) - we loan a CM from another prem team as no money for a permanent signing. Am I right in thinking we can still sign EFL players after the deadline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 (edited) https://footballbh.net/2020/06/06/joey-veerman-2019-20-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics/ Edited 28 September, 2020 by SuperSAINT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 1 minute ago, SuperSAINT said: Am I right in thinking we can still sign EFL players after the deadline? I think so..? However, there will be an additional, domestic window that continues through to 5 p.m. on Oct. 16 when clubs will only be able to trade (either loans or permanent registrations) with EFL teams (so not internationally or with other Premier League clubs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 3 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: https://footballbh.net/2020/06/06/joey-veerman-2019-20-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics/ Going well down the list of players that fit our profile and budget. Just another typical saints transfer window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 13 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: https://footballbh.net/2020/06/06/joey-veerman-2019-20-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics/ Would be a big ask for him to come straight into our first Xi.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 Jordy Clasie MK 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 Just now, gammon cheeks said: Jordy Clasie MK 2 You've seen him play have you? Like Sangare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 He isn’t going to improve our first eleven. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, gammon cheeks said: Jordy Clasie MK 2 How is he Clasie ? This guy is 6ft 1 Edited 28 September, 2020 by Give it to Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 6 minutes ago, gammon cheeks said: Jordy Clasie MK 2 Is that a sweeping generalisation based on nationality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 22 minutes ago, Turkish said: Going well down the list of players that fit our profile and budget. Just another typical saints transfer window The telegraph will still tell us, we’ve tracked him for years and he’s exactly the player we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 36 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: https://footballbh.net/2020/06/06/joey-veerman-2019-20-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics/ That is the best scouting report I've ever read, the dude sounds perfect for our system as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 Ok scoped the Dutch papers and it's all over them. Apparently we were in the stands on the weekend v Venlo and also a Spanish club is interested in him as well. Could be 12-15m based on their speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 Actually, think he could do a job for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 Skills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangelyBrown Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 2 hours ago, Saint Troy said: sadly not being very good isn't the bench mark for not offering us something in some positions right now! Its more than reasonable to ask if we want to block tellas "pathway" for someone like Theo but i honestly think Theo would offer us more coming on than tella does for example Tella has a bit of pace (not sure what else he offers), Theo has lost much of his plus I'm pretty sure he will just get injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteleySaint30 Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 9 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Ok scoped the Dutch papers and it's all over them. Apparently we were in the stands on the weekend v Venlo and also a Spanish club is interested in him as well. Could be 12-15m based on their speculation Scouting for players to replace hojbjerg. Laughable bearing in mind we've known he's off for a minimum of 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 How many months will he take before he is ready for Ralph’s system 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 Seems to tick all the boxes, expecting his signing to be announced at a La Liga side imminently then. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 28 September, 2020 Share Posted 28 September, 2020 Veerman sounds more like a central AM than a defensive midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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