TWar Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 3 minutes ago, LeG said: If this is true, i wonder if Hoedt is part of the deal. Have you heard anything regarding this or Hoedt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 On 29/07/2020 at 12:03, manji said: Jeremi Rodriguez from Las Palmas is in the house 400k. He’s at a certain hotel now. This has never actually been announced despite strong reports. Obviously was lined up for the U23s but presume it didn't happen for some reason in the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 That Koopmeiner seems to know how to take a pen at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 23 minutes ago, Dusic said: This has never actually been announced despite strong reports. Obviously was lined up for the U23s but presume it didn't happen for some reason in the end? Strange, as Manji has a usually stellar ITK record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, LeG said: If this is true, i wonder if Hoedt is part of tbe deal. Edited 31 August, 2020 by stknowle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 watching that video, Koopmeiner has a nice left foot and can pick a pass. Not sure he is the most athletic, but looks like he keeps the ball well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 On 23/07/2020 at 21:26, Cartman said: Koopmeiners for me. https://footballbh.net/2020/03/21/teun-koopmeiners-2019-20-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics/ https://footballbh.net/2020/05/07/eredivisie-2019-20-teun-koopmeiners-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics/ Yes!🥳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 1 hour ago, Dusic said: This has never actually been announced despite strong reports. Obviously was lined up for the U23s but presume it didn't happen for some reason in the end? Alan Nixon said he’s been with us for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 (edited) Koopmeiners looks strong, composed and a good passer. He also seems like a reasonably strong runner. Being 22 and the captain of his side, on the face of it you'd think he'll cost a lot more than £14m. Edited 31 August, 2020 by verlaine1979 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 7 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Tenuous transfer rumour alert (the Twitter account is followed by Simon Peach of the Press Association which gives it a bit of credibility) Obligatory YouTube 'best bits' video Excited by this, his forward passing and freekicks especially look class. But, are we in danger of having 3 very similar players for the two central midfield spots. This guy is very JWP-ish, and taking away his set peices, Smallbone looks to be a similar type of player to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 Looks like the Schneiderlin who played for us from that video with the bonus of set pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 4 hours ago, LeG said: If this is true, i wonder if Hoedt is part of the deal. I’ll ask my contacts. Leave the ITK stuff to me pal 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALK DMC Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 Koopmeiners looks interesting although from the clips doesn't strike you as a high energy hard pressing midfielder. However, he has played a fair few games as a left sided centre half so perhaps having somebody who can play multiple positions is attractive to Saints with our limited funds and Salisu not available any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 13 minutes ago, WALK DMC said: Koopmeiners looks interesting although from the clips doesn't strike you as a high energy hard pressing midfielder. However, he has played a fair few games as a left sided centre half so perhaps having somebody who can play multiple positions is attractive to Saints with our limited funds and Salisu not available any time soon. I have been wondering if we'd like someone a bit versatile, so that's onteresting about him. With my limited player knowledge the only one i could think of was Paddy Mcnair in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: I have been wondering if we'd like someone a bit versatile, so that's onteresting about him. With my limited player knowledge the only one i could think of was Paddy Mcnair in the championship. Harrison Reed is the same age and outperformed him in the Championship and if Reed wasn't at Saints level, McNair certainly isn't. Edited 31 August, 2020 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Harrison Reed is the same age and outperformed him in the Championship and if Reed wasn't at Saints level, McNair certainly isn't. I don't think he was suggesting we sign McNair. Just a versatility comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 1 minute ago, S-Clarke said: I don't think he was suggesting we sign McNair. Just a versatility comparison. Im not really a fan of these versatility type players. Unless they are exceptional players it usually means they are pretty average in 3-4 positions and don’t have one good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Harrison Reed is the same age and outperformed him in the Championship and if Reed wasn't at Saints level, McNair certainly isn't. Well who says Reed wasn't at Saints level. He chose to go to Fulham rather than stay with us. Personally i've always liked McNair as a player(he made some poor career moves though) having seen him play a number of times. I mentioned him as he's a domestic player i know who fits the versatile role I've already said i can't speak for whether there's better viable options abroad in our price range that fit that versatility. Edited 31 August, 2020 by Baird of the land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 August, 2020 Share Posted 31 August, 2020 1 hour ago, Turkish said: Im not really a fan of these versatility type players. Unless they are exceptional players it usually means they are pretty average in 3-4 positions and don’t have one good one. Yeah, that's true. Pretty much feel the same about them, although with Teun I believe he's always been a CM, defensive in nature. Morgan was actually capable of 'playing in defence' when we bought him too, in fact I'm sure he played there, but it was pretty obvious he was a CM. Same is the case of Teun imo. Don't even know if we're interested in him though! I'll await your confirmation 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 Versatile players usually mean they are technically sound, positionally sound, have good stamina and work rate, and good football intelligence. If a manager trusts them to play multiple positions then it means they are usually pretty good. Plus there is not a huge amount of difference in the raw abilities you need for full back and more defensive mid positions, which is why the likes of JWP have been able to fill in at full back pretty solidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 12 hours ago, Baird of the land said: Well who says Reed wasn't at Saints level. He chose to go to Fulham rather than stay with us. Personally i've always liked McNair as a player(he made some poor career moves though) having seen him play a number of times. I mentioned him as he's a domestic player i know who fits the versatile role I've already said i can't speak for whether there's better viable options abroad in our price range that fit that versatility. Probably the 5 consecutive managers including the current one who decided to either not pick him regularly or loan him out. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 9 minutes ago, Turkish said: Probably the 5 consecutive managers including the current one who decided to either not pick him regularly or loan him out. Hope that helps. well that told him lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 12 hours ago, Baird of the land said: Well who says Reed wasn't at Saints level. He chose to go to Fulham rather than stay with us. Personally i've always liked McNair as a player(he made some poor career moves though) having seen him play a number of times. I mentioned him as he's a domestic player i know who fits the versatile role I've already said i can't speak for whether there's better viable options abroad in our price range that fit that versatility. Probably the 5 consecutive managers including the current one who decided to either not pick him regularly or loan him out. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Bates Statue Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 52 minutes ago, Turkish said: Probably the 5 consecutive managers including the current one who decided to either not pick him regularly or loan him out. Hope that helps. Pretty much sums up why he's decided to move on. On the other hand, it took JWP around 7 seasons before really nailing down a place in the XI and showing his true capabilities and Jack Stephens has given 3+ years of dodgy performances before last season's improvements. Chicken and egg hypotheticals, but I think if we gave Harrison Reed similar patience he might have been a lot closer to nailing down a place in our matchday squad. Even if Fulham go down, I wouldn't be too surprised if he ends up playing in the PL again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 3 hours ago, Ted Bates Statue said: Pretty much sums up why he's decided to move on. On the other hand, it took JWP around 7 seasons before really nailing down a place in the XI and showing his true capabilities and Jack Stephens has given 3+ years of dodgy performances before last season's improvements. Chicken and egg hypotheticals, but I think if we gave Harrison Reed similar patience he might have been a lot closer to nailing down a place in our matchday squad. Even if Fulham go down, I wouldn't be too surprised if he ends up playing in the PL again. Big difference being Ward Prowse was usually in the match day squad even when not starting. Reed had a few good games 5 years ago and has hardly played since. He might go on to be a great premier league player, but then I’d suggest At 25 he’d already be at a team better than Fulham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: Big difference being Ward Prowse was usually in the match day squad even when not starting. Reed had a few good games 5 years ago and has hardly played since. He might go on to be a great premier league player, but then I’d suggest At 25 he’d already be at a team better than Fulham Rickie Lambert at 25 years old was a League 2 player 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 (edited) My brother supports Fulham and saw a lot of Reed last season. He said he was the reason they went up as he gave them a more solid defence. It will be interesting to see how he and Fulham get on next season, especially with Lemina in the squad too. Edited 1 September, 2020 by sadoldgit Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 Salisu in a Saints kit.... This is not a drill...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 6 minutes ago, trousers said: Salisu in a Saints kit.... This is not a drill...! Green screen. Bet he’s been CGI’d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 (edited) SKY SPORTS TC: SAINTS COOL NTCHAM INTEREST Southampton showed initial interest in Celtic midfielder Olivier Ntcham but that is no longer expected to lead to a deal. It’s understood Lyon and Porto are also interested in the 24-year-old, with Porto trying to sign Ntcham last summer. Edited 1 September, 2020 by Saint Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 I don't think Ntcham is the midfielder we really need or want. I'm glad we are walking away. He is nearly 25 too., So a much younger, Defensive type of b2b ball carrier is who we really should be going for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 Again, just like McKennie, we do not do our business in the media. If it's linked in different sources, every day, every week then it's unlikely to be true. Our interest becomes public through our sources at a time we are comfortable with. Or potentially at the players end towards the end of the deal but clubs and players we are looking to do business with are told quite quickly to keep it quiet. If it becomes public knowledge we won't entertain it and will either pull out or have already pulled out. If various random internet click bait sources are reporting interest it's likely to be either just clickbait or agents trying to use us to drum up interest. McKennie and Ntcham are not players that ever smacked of credible interest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 12 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: Again, just like McKennie, we do not do our business in the media. If it's linked in different sources, every day, every week then it's unlikely to be true. Our interest becomes public through our sources at a time we are comfortable with. Or potentially at the players end towards the end of the deal but clubs and players we are looking to do business with are told quite quickly to keep it quiet. If it becomes public knowledge we won't entertain it and will either pull out or have already pulled out. If various random internet click bait sources are reporting interest it's likely to be either just clickbait or agents trying to use us to drum up interest. McKennie and Ntcham are not players that ever smacked of credible interest. This is...errr....not true. It is nearly always reported by multiple sources. Salisu, KWP, Adams and Djenepo all were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 37 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: Again, just like McKennie, we do not do our business in the media. If it's linked in different sources, every day, every week then it's unlikely to be true. Our interest becomes public through our sources at a time we are comfortable with. Or potentially at the players end towards the end of the deal but clubs and players we are looking to do business with are told quite quickly to keep it quiet. If it becomes public knowledge we won't entertain it and will either pull out or have already pulled out. If various random internet click bait sources are reporting interest it's likely to be either just clickbait or agents trying to use us to drum up interest. McKennie and Ntcham are not players that ever smacked of credible interest. Haha, as if we're powerful enough to keep all the interested parties involved during a potential transfer quiet. There might be rare occasions when it's in everyone's best interests to say nothing, but most of the time, the player's agent has no reason not to try and drum up additional interest by talking about an offer being on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 September, 2020 Author Share Posted 1 September, 2020 1 hour ago, Fabrice29 said: Again, just like McKennie, we do not do our business in the media. every single transfer we complete is reported in the media what universe do you operate in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 Some are known to us later than others. Bednarek, the first we knew was when he was on the flight over to sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 Our deals are reported in the media late on in negotiations. Not early on, not before we've made offers and enquiries. We're not in the business of letting shit fester in the media whilst we wait around deciding when to make offers. If it's reported as "Saints have interest" it's likely to be bullshit. If we have interest, we'll get into negotiations. If it's reported as fee agreed or bid made by credible sources close to the player or club then it's potentially credible, if it's random sites reporting interest in McKennie and Ntcham when no offers are being made or reported and the closest sources to our club have quite clearly told people we're either not interested or we're getting rid of people first who only left yesterday then it's bullshit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 4 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: Our deals are reported in the media late on in negotiations. Not early on, not before we've made offers and enquiries. We're not in the business of letting shit fester in the media whilst we wait around deciding when to make offers. If it's reported as "Saints have interest" it's likely to be bullshit. If we have interest, we'll get into negotiations. If it's reported as fee agreed or bid made by credible sources close to the player or club then it's potentially credible, if it's random sites reporting interest in McKennie and Ntcham when no offers are being made or reported and the closest sources to our club have quite clearly told people we're either not interested or we're getting rid of people first who only left yesterday then it's bullshit. You're kidding yourself son. Salisu was reported in the same "random" way as McKennie was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: Our deals are reported in the media late on in negotiations. Not early on, not before we've made offers and enquiries. We're not in the business of letting shit fester in the media whilst we wait around deciding when to make offers. If it's reported as "Saints have interest" it's likely to be bullshit. If we have interest, we'll get into negotiations. If it's reported as fee agreed or bid made by credible sources close to the player or club then it's potentially credible, if it's random sites reporting interest in McKennie and Ntcham when no offers are being made or reported and the closest sources to our club have quite clearly told people we're either not interested or we're getting rid of people first who only left yesterday then it's bullshit. Here is a great example of the sort of bullshit you are referring to. It tallies with exactly how you describe it panning out and our interest only being Reported late on. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/11899974/mohammed-salisu-southampton-keen-on-real-valladolid-defender Edited 1 September, 2020 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 September, 2020 Author Share Posted 1 September, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: Our deals are reported in the media late on in negotiations. no they are not! what universe are you in? You have had a mare. Edited 1 September, 2020 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 1 hour ago, Fabrice29 said: Again, just like McKennie, we do not do our business in the media. If it's linked in different sources, every day, every week then it's unlikely to be true. Our interest becomes public through our sources at a time we are comfortable with. Or potentially at the players end towards the end of the deal but clubs and players we are looking to do business with are told quite quickly to keep it quiet. If it becomes public knowledge we won't entertain it and will either pull out or have already pulled out. If various random internet click bait sources are reporting interest it's likely to be either just clickbait or agents trying to use us to drum up interest. McKennie and Ntcham are not players that ever smacked of credible interest. Lol. You don't have a clue. We were interested in McKennie. What a load of tosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Turkish said: Here is a great example of the sort of bullshit you are referring to. It tallies with exactly how you describe it panning out and our interest only being Reported late on. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/11899974/mohammed-salisu-southampton-keen-on-real-valladolid-defender Touché. Although people who are more in the know and work in our recruitment team would tell you it was a deal all but wrapped up long before this summer and we waited due to a mixture of funds and felt the timing wasn't right. Hence why it so quickly done when the window was open (Covid complications aside). Same article also names 3 other players, two of which didn't happen, one did but that was described as unlikely in this article. More bullshit than truth in this article. Edited 1 September, 2020 by Fabrice29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 Just now, Fabrice29 said: Touché. Although people who are more in the know and work in our recruitment team would tell you it was a deal all but wrapped up long before this summer and we waited due to a mixture of funds and felt the timing wasn't right. Hence why it so quickly done when the window was open (Covid complications aside). Same article also names 3 other players, two of which didn't happen, one did but that was described as unlikely in this article. More bullshit that truth in this article. Who are these people who "work in our recruitment team?" Because I actually know people who work at the club and I know for a fact that we had interest in McKennie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjurwi Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 i've got a bad feeling we are not going to get an CM this window. Ward-Prowse, Romeu, Smallbone, Slattery and Jankewitz will be our CM selection. Hope i'm wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 Just now, kjurwi said: i've got a bad feeling we are not going to get an CM this window. Ward-Prowse, Romeu, Smallbone, Slattery and Jankewitz will be our CM selection. Hope i'm wrong Can't see it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 When did Alan Nixon become reliable? He knew about this before anyone else. https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1298669128480444423 https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/1300850855009234945 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 21 minutes ago, Cartman said: When did Alan Nixon become reliable? He knew about this before anyone else. https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1298669128480444423 https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/1300850855009234945 He often gets things correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 (edited) If Transfermarkt is to be believed; Koopmeiners and McKennie both have Wasserman as their agents. Edited 1 September, 2020 by Nolan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 1 hour ago, Fabrice29 said: Touché. Although people who are more in the know and work in our recruitment team would tell you it was a deal all but wrapped up long before this summer and we waited due to a mixture of funds and felt the timing wasn't right. Hence why it so quickly done when the window was open (Covid complications aside). Same article also names 3 other players, two of which didn't happen, one did but that was described as unlikely in this article. More bullshit than truth in this article. Laughable. That single sky article blows all your points apart. But carry on believing that not a single media source knows anything about any of our transfer deals until they are as good as done if it makes you feel happy. Everyone else will just carry on pointing and laughing at you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 1 September, 2020 Share Posted 1 September, 2020 1 hour ago, kjurwi said: i've got a bad feeling we are not going to get an CM this window. Ward-Prowse, Romeu, Smallbone, Slattery and Jankewitz will be our CM selection. Hope i'm wrong Given we’ve got lots of time and got 10m from midfielders that would be a criminal decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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