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SuperSAINT

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  On 28/09/2020 at 11:23, S-Clarke said:

Interesting dig from PSV there! I think that's pretty clear we didn't get our shit in line for this one!

Don't know anything about him to be honest, but it's another kick in the balls to our transfer plans. I wonder if this was who Ralph was referring to as our 'first targets we missed out on' - or was that more Mckennie?

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Bit of both.  Sangare much cheaper!

saint1977

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  On 28/09/2020 at 11:23, S-Clarke said:

Interesting dig from PSV there! I think that's pretty clear we didn't get our shit in line for this one!

Don't know anything about him to be honest, but it's another kick in the balls to our transfer plans. I wonder if this was who Ralph was referring to as our 'first targets we missed out on' - or was that more Mckennie?

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SFC hasn’t had its shit together for four years, ever since Ronald left and especially since the Fonte January window debacle. Squad needs major strengthening so loans it is. Not ideal but tides Ralph over until we can get rid of Gao and co for good

 

Saint86

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  On 28/09/2020 at 11:39, saint1977 said:

SFC hasn’t had its shit together for four years, ever since Ronald left and especially since the Fonte January window debacle. Squad needs major strengthening so loans it is. Not ideal but tides Ralph over until we can get rid of Gao and co for good

 

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Our hands are tied by the Legacy of Reed. The man came far to close to ruining us. I used to moan that he hamstrung our potential. Now I am just greatful that we seem to have survived Reed without getting relegated and entering adminstration.

Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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  On 28/09/2020 at 11:23, S-Clarke said:

Interesting dig from PSV there! I think that's pretty clear we didn't get our shit in line for this one!

Don't know anything about him to be honest, but it's another kick in the balls to our transfer plans. I wonder if this was who Ralph was referring to as our 'first targets we missed out on' - or was that more Mckennie?

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There’s clearly more to this than is in the public domain. I don’t care what anyone says about big clubs and history, players and agents don’t choose Eredivisie over the Premier League in 2020. As skint as we are, I can’t see that having sold PEH we couldn’t budget £8m for a replacement. If things really are THAT bad, why bid for him in the first place?
 

I think McK was the one we ‘missed out on’.

stevy777_x

stevy777_x

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  On 28/09/2020 at 12:02, Lighthouse said:

There’s clearly more to this than is in the public domain. I don’t care what anyone says about big clubs and history, players and agents don’t choose Eredivisie over the Premier League in 2020. As skint as we are, I can’t see that having sold PEH we couldn’t budget £8m for a replacement. If things really are THAT bad, why bid for him in the first place?
 

I think McK was the one we ‘missed out on’.

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Unless Gao won’t sanction any major buys until the club is sold, that could be another take...

VectisSaint

VectisSaint

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  On 28/09/2020 at 12:02, Lighthouse said:

I don’t care what anyone says about big clubs and history, players and agents don’t choose Eredivisie over the Premier League in 2020. 
 

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Clearly you are wrong in 2020. Choosing a Big 3 (or especially 2) Eredivise Club against a bottom half PL club is really quite an easy decision to make.

We aren't signing (foreign) players because they don't want to come here. They see no prospect of winning anything, wages are not significantly better, Staplewood is not really the big draw that MLG suggests (was it ever?), playing in a system that means you have to work hard closing down, Brexit, bungling Govt covid-19 regulations. Players also will look at how its worked out here for other players recently. Ralph is not a big draw. We really aren't such an attraction any more.  

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Convict Colony

Convict Colony

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  On 28/09/2020 at 12:18, VectisSaint said:

Clearly you are wrong in 2020. Choosing a Big 3 (or especially 2) Eredivise Club against a bottom half PL club is really quite an easy decision to make.

We aren't signing (foreign) players because they don't want to come here. They see no prospect of winning anything, wages are not significantly better, Staplewood is not really the big draw that MLG suggests (was it ever?), playing in a system that means you have to work hard closing down, Brexit, bungling Govt covid-19 regulations. Players also will look at how its worked out here for other players recently. Ralph is not a big draw. We really aren't such an attraction any more.  

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Did a check on voetbalzone cos I know they dont pay that well here and last year the estimate average salary for a eredivise player was 291k euro a year with ziyech being the top on 4mil a year or 70k pounds a week.

Am guessing PSV would be paying Sangare around 30-40 euro a week max for a DM - plus factor in finances due to covid and no fans in stadiums either I'd guess closer to 30k

SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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Don't forget there was the interview with Semmens a while back that seemed to indicate we were seemingly gambling on prices in certain leagues coming down by the end of the window so lets see if that happens...

Convict Colony

Convict Colony

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  On 28/09/2020 at 12:48, sadoldgit said:

Is there actually any form evidence that we made Sangare an offer and he turned us down?

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Nah just paper talk in the dutch papers about being interested on weds but that could be them pumping up their own tyres.

The main insight I got from the PSV forum was he is tall and they dont like the french.

SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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  On 28/09/2020 at 12:52, Convict Colony said:

Nah just paper talk in the dutch papers about being interested on weds but that could be them pumping up their own tyres.

The main insight I got from the PSV forum was he is tall and they dont like the french.

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Fitted our profile exactly.  I would be surprised if we weren't in for him.

Convict Colony

Convict Colony

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  On 28/09/2020 at 12:56, SuperSAINT said:

Fitted our profile exactly.  I would be surprised if we weren't in for him.

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Nah bro we are going to get a rolls royce of a centre midfielder that is going to be our pressing king in the midfield and score goals for fun.

 

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Convict Colony

Convict Colony

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Schneider wouldn’t confirm the identity of McKennie’s other suitors, but Sports Illustrated understands that Southampton initially was the most interested team beyond German borders. 

So he probably was our main target

SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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  On 28/09/2020 at 13:02, Convict Colony said:

Schneider wouldn’t confirm the identity of McKennie’s other suitors, but Sports Illustrated understands that Southampton initially was the most interested team beyond German borders. 

So he probably was our main target

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Def but wages were HIGH.

Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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  On 28/09/2020 at 12:18, VectisSaint said:

Clearly you are wrong in 2020. Choosing a Big 3 (or especially 2) Eredivise Club against a bottom half PL club is really quite an easy decision to make.

We aren't signing (foreign) players because they don't want to come here. They see no prospect of winning anything, wages are not significantly better, Staplewood is not really the big draw that MLG suggests (was it ever?), playing in a system that means you have to work hard closing down, Brexit, bungling Govt covid-19 regulations. Players also will look at how its worked out here for other players recently. Ralph is not a big draw. We really aren't such an attraction any more.  

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I agree, proven by Peiters, Propper and Wijnaldum.

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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  On 28/09/2020 at 13:03, SuperSAINT said:

Def but wages were HIGH.

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It's weird that we even thought that was a goer, he was already on huge wages. It wouldn't take much for the club to do the initial due diligence on those elements before wasting any time on it.

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benjii

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  On 28/09/2020 at 09:17, DT said:

Depressing to even think for one millisecond that winning on the weekend might have dampened our search for new players but the delay in lining up a central midfielder is tantamount to negligence. Really think we must be absolutely skint or run by people with very little experience of how transfers work. 

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Both.

StrangelyBrown

StrangelyBrown

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  On 28/09/2020 at 13:25, adriansfc said:

Would totally take Theo on loan, great move for both parties. We need extra forward/no10 options, he is more of a goal threat than Redmond/Djenpo, we wouldn't be committing a huge transfer fee. We have plenty of younger players to develop, we need a little balance with experience.

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I'm not sure Theo would offer us anything. He's not been very good for some time now.

saint97

saint97

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Sessegnon would be a weird loan signing if there's no option/obligation to buy - Not guaranteed game time with us too.

Much rather get someone that is suited to playing on the right of the two 10's. 

Saint Troy

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  On 28/09/2020 at 13:38, StrangelyBrown said:

I'm not sure Theo would offer us anything. He's not been very good for some time now.

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sadly not being very good isn't the bench mark for not offering us something in some positions right now! 

Its more than reasonable to ask if we want to block tellas "pathway" for someone like Theo but i honestly think Theo would offer us more coming on than tella does for example

Dusic

Dusic

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Re outs:

I can us coming to an agreement with Carillo and allowing him to then join another club on a free.

Praying Hoedt joins Lazio.

Its gone quiet with Boufal the last day or so.

Likes of Sims, Hesketh etc can move on loan during the EFL window, til mid October I think.

Forester

Forester

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  On 28/09/2020 at 10:26, WALK DMC said:

One player that I'm surprised that we haven't been linked with is Lerma from Bournemouth. His first season in the Premiership was very successful although his performances seemed to drop last season.  He has premiership experience, is a defensive midfielder, plays the high press and is probably available due to their relegation.  I cannot see any rumours linking him to any other team in the last week. Maybe Bournemouth are asking too much, hence the absence of clear suitors, but in the absence of anyone else he would be the type of individual we could be looking at (particularly as we are getting pretty desperate for a DM). 

He wouldn't be my first choice, but seems a logical possibility. 
 

In my house we have wanted Lerma or Billing as a naturally athletic midfield signing all summer.  Billing gets goals too

 

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stevy777_x

stevy777_x

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  On 28/09/2020 at 14:35, Dusic said:

Re outs:

I can us coming to an agreement with Carillo and allowing him to then join another club on a free.

Praying Hoedt joins Lazio.

Its gone quiet with Boufal the last day or so.

Likes of Sims, Hesketh etc can move on loan during the EFL window, til mid October I think.

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I can the following panning out:

- Carillo leaves on mutual concent (To be done after the transfer window)

- Boufal stays with no replacement lined up (especially as prem loan will be done for CM)

- we loan a CM from another prem team as no money for a permanent signing.

Saint Billy

Saint Billy

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Wasn't the plan to leave it late in the window when the prices being asked will drop. Me thinks we are leaving it too late and heading for another catastrophic shit show of a transfer window. 

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SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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  On 28/09/2020 at 15:06, stevy777_x said:

I can the following panning out:

- Carillo leaves on mutual concent (To be done after the transfer window)

- Boufal stays with no replacement lined up (especially as prem loan will be done for CM)

- we loan a CM from another prem team as no money for a permanent signing.

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Am I right in thinking we can still sign EFL players after the deadline?

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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  On 28/09/2020 at 15:45, SuperSAINT said:

Am I right in thinking we can still sign EFL players after the deadline?

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I think so..?

However, there will be an additional, domestic window that continues through to 5 p.m. on Oct. 16 when clubs will only be able to trade (either loans or permanent registrations) with EFL teams (so not internationally or with other Premier League clubs).

SKD

SKD

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  On 28/09/2020 at 15:52, Turkish said:

Going well down the list of players that fit our profile and budget. Just another typical saints transfer window 

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The telegraph will still tell us, we’ve tracked him for years and he’s exactly the player we need. 

Convict Colony

Convict Colony

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Ok scoped the Dutch papers and it's all over them.

Apparently we were in the stands on the weekend v Venlo and also a Spanish club is interested in him as well.

Could be 12-15m based on their speculation

 

StrangelyBrown

StrangelyBrown

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  On 28/09/2020 at 13:45, Saint Troy said:

sadly not being very good isn't the bench mark for not offering us something in some positions right now! 

Its more than reasonable to ask if we want to block tellas "pathway" for someone like Theo but i honestly think Theo would offer us more coming on than tella does for example

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Tella has a bit of pace (not sure what else he offers), Theo has lost much of his plus I'm pretty sure he will just get injured

whiteleySaint30

whiteleySaint30

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  On 28/09/2020 at 16:32, Convict Colony said:

Ok scoped the Dutch papers and it's all over them.

Apparently we were in the stands on the weekend v Venlo and also a Spanish club is interested in him as well.

Could be 12-15m based on their speculation

 

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Scouting for players to replace hojbjerg. Laughable bearing in mind we've known he's off for a minimum of 6 months. 

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