Blasphemy and Duck Rape

[Raging Bull]

You're boring. I don't care why people pray, it's not my concern as long as they aren't hurting anyone else. More power to them.

 

https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2020/20-march/news/uk/day-of-prayer-and-action-light-a-candle-say-church-leaders

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation-national-day-prayer-americans-affected-coronavirus-pandemic-national-response-efforts/

[Matthew Le God]

Raging Bull continues to be unable to construct a rebuttal to posts he disagrees with.

[Raging Bull]

Raging Bull continues to be unable to construct a rebuttal to posts he disagrees with.

 

Simply not true. The fact of the matter is we’ve been over this again and again, but you simply don’t see it, and I don’t have the time or patience to go over it again.

[Matthew Le God]

Simply not true. The fact of the matter is we’ve been over this again and again, but you simply don’t see it, and I don’t have the time or patience to go over it again.

 

Give it a go. Pick out some things I've said that you disagree with and explain why.

[hypochondriac]

Give it a go. Pick out some things I've said that you disagree with and explain why.

Quite rightly people don't want to argue the minutiae of religion with you during a worldwide emergency.

[Raging Bull]

Simply not true. The fact of the matter is we’ve been over this again and again, but you simply don’t see it, and I don’t have the time or patience to go over it again.

 

Give it a go. Pick out some things I've said that you disagree with and explain why.

 

 

You’re obviously a little hard of learning and I’m dealing with a company that’s being decimated by a virus, so let’s just leave it there shall we.

[benjii]

Quite rightly people don't want to argue the minutiae of religion with you during a worldwide emergency.

 

Not too busy to post on SaintsWeb but too busy to post anything sensible?

[hypochondriac]

Not too busy to post on SaintsWeb but too busy to post anything sensible?

What's sensible about a religious debate with MLG for the thousandth time? I don't care if someone wants to follow a religion as long as it doesn't affect me. If it gives people some comfort then that's what matters.

[buctootim]

I don't care if someone wants to follow a religion as long as it doesn't affect me. If it gives people some comfort then that's what matters.

 

Is your wife a practising muslim, or simply from a muslim background and doesnt believe/ hates it? No agenda, just interested.

[Matthew Le God]

 

You’re obviously a little hard of learning and I’m dealing with a company that’s being decimated by a virus, so let’s just leave it there shall we.

 

It hasn't stopped you making other petty insult posts.

[Weston Super Saint]

 

In the real world people are dying, suffering, and full of fear about health, family, friends, finances, future etc etc etc. This is serious and it is not the time for you to challenge people's beliefs and/or that are private to them.

 

 

To be fair, in the real world, those things happen to people around the world all the time. Does that mean that people's beliefs should never be challenged?

[egg]

To be fair, in the real world, those things happen to people around the world all the time. Does that mean that people's beliefs should never be challenged?

 

I don't believe that anyone's beliefs should be challenged on the basis that personal beliefs are exactly that, and have f*ck to all to do with anyone if they are not impacted by it. It makes no difference to you, me, MLG, or anyone if someone wants to pray to whatever they choose to believe in for some comfort or guidance at this or any other time.

 

Dredging this thread up as MLG has, and calling out people to join in a debate that only MLG wants, is crass / cheap /pathetic given what people are trying to adjust to at the moment. People have said that they don't want to play his games and MLG should respect that.

[Matthew Le God]

I don't believe that anyone's beliefs should be challenged on the basis that personal beliefs are exactly that, and have f*ck to all to do with anyone if they are not impacted by it. It makes no difference to you, me, MLG, or anyone if someone wants to pray to whatever they choose to believe in for some comfort or guidance at this or any other time.

 

Beliefs impact actions, actions impact other people. Therefore irrational beliefs should be challenged. They are harmful not just to the people holding them, but others.

[Turkish]

It'll be interesting to see if we can find out the one true religion through all of this. Obviously if you're praying to the right god you've got a much greater chance of survival, so the stats should eventually start to back this up.

 

Looking at the state of Italy and Spain it aint the Catholic one.

[Turkish]

Wow, just caught up on this thread. MLG excelling himself in behaving like an utter cock.

[Matthew Le God]

Wow, just caught up on this thread. MLG excelling himself in behaving like an utter cock.

 

Petty insults rather than rebuttals = classic Turkish

[Turkish]

Petty insults rather than rebuttals = classic Turkish

 

I have the same view as all the others pal. You carrying on embarrassing yourself though

[Matthew Le God]

I have the same view as all the others pal. You carrying on embarrassing yourself though

 

1) Why is it embarrassing to state that beliefs impact actions and actions impact on others? Irrational beliefs lead to irrational actions and that is harmful. It shouldn't be ignored as merely they aren't harming people, the harm is to themselves and anyone their actions impact. It isn't harmless.

 

2) Pandemics just highlight a kind and loving all knowing God is an oxymoron. It is impossible for a deity to have all of those qualities as they conflict with each other.

[Turkish]

1) Why is it embarrassing to state that beliefs impact actions and actions impact on others? Irrational beliefs lead to irrational actions and that is harmful. It shouldn't be ignored as merely they aren't harming people, the harm is to themselves and anyone their actions impact. It isn't harmless.

 

2) Pandemics just highlight a kind and loving all knowing God is an oxymoron. It is impossible for a deity to have all of those qualities as they conflict with each other.

 

i'll put it simply for you. A number of people have said you are being a cock. If you cant see it then that says a lot about you. When you think the problem is everyone else, it probably isnt.

[Matthew Le God]

Yet again... not answering questions

[Turkish]

Yet again... not answering questions

 

I've already said i wouldn't be for the same reasons others expressed. Not sure why you have such difficulty understanding that.

[Lighthouse]

Looking at the state of Italy and Spain it aint the Catholic one.

 

Agreed, we can tick them off. Looking at the Middle East and Iran in particular, it seems although Sunni Islam has definitely got the edge over Shi’a.

[Matthew Le God]

I've already said i wouldn't be for the same reasons others expressed. Not sure why you have such difficulty understanding that.

 

Raging Bull and you both appear unable form a coherant rebuttal. That is probably why you don't answer questions.

[Raging Bull]

It hasn't stopped you making other petty insult posts.

 

I completely gave up reasoning with you a couple of months ago when I pointed out that Russia is mentioned in the bible, when you were adamant it isn’t.

 

Turkish read it and understood it, therefore it’s clear he’s a bright fella who understands what’s written in front of him. You didn’t get it, or didn’t want to admit you were wrong. I think we all know the answer.

 

But the point is, the world has changed forever in an insanely short period of time, which is the most important thing here.

 

At some point we’ll all be touched by this thing in 1 way or another, so do yourself a favour and stop embarrassing yourself.

[Matthew Le God]

I completely gave up reasoning with you a couple of months ago when I pointed out that Russia is mentioned in the bible, when you were adamant it isn’t.

 

Turkish read it and understood it, therefore it’s clear he’s a bright fella who understands what’s written in front of him. You didn’t get it, or didn’t want to admit you were wrong. I think we all know the answer.

 

But the point is, the world has changed forever in an insanely short period of time, which is the most important thing here.

 

At some point we’ll all be touched by this thing in 1 way or another, so do yourself a favour and stop embarrassing yourself.

 

Russia is not mentioned in the Bible. You have shoehorned the modern world to fit something in the Bible when it does not. That is not how evidence works. You should not start at a conclusion and look for evidence like you do. Instead you should follow the evidence to a conclusion.

[whelk]

Try having a go at a rebuttal rather than petty insults!

 

You deserve nothing but insults you emotionally stunted plum.

[Turkish]

Raging Bull and you both appear unable form a coherant rebuttal. That is probably why you don't answer questions.

 

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience

[Matthew Le God]

You deserve nothing but insults you emotionally stunted plum.

 

You are another that is unable to form a rebuttal.

[egg]

Beliefs impact actions, actions impact other people. Therefore irrational beliefs should be challenged. They are harmful not just to the people holding them, but others.

 

So my neighbour praying to a god of her understanding impacts other people in your view. Give me f*cking strength.

[Matthew Le God]

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience

 

You can't form rebuttals and resort to petty insults. I am educated to masters level... I know how evidence works... you clearly don't!

[Matthew Le God]

So my neighbour praying to a god of her understanding impacts other people in your view. Give me f*cking strength.

 

Yes, beliefs impact her actions. Puzzling why you think beliefs don't impact on actions.

[Raging Bull]

Russia is not mentioned in the Bible. You have shoehorned the modern world to fit something in the Bible when it does not. That is not how evidence works. You should not start at a conclusion and look for evidence like you do. Instead you should follow the evidence to a conclusion.

 

Yes it is.

 

Tell me something, is your missus practicing social distancing in the bedroom department? You seem overly frustrated today.

[Matthew Le God]

Yes it is.

 

You are shoehorning the modern world into the Bible where it does not fit. Modern Russia is not mentioned in the Bible.

 

There is no credible prophecy in the Bible. It can all be easily explained and is not impressive. Prove me wrong on that!

[Turkish]

You can't form rebuttals and resort to petty insults. I am educated to masters level... I know how evidence works... you clearly don't!

 

What an arrogant post.

[Matthew Le God]

What an arrogant post.

 

Not arrogant. The last 13 years on this forum have shown you dont understand how evidence or rebuttals work

[whelk]

You are another that is unable to form a rebuttal.

 

Yeah outthought by a great pseudo intellectual who thinks he’s onto something with the thread being bad things happen like so God can’t be good. Genius levels of theological thinking. Maybe bring up some Leviticus or Deuteronomy you being clever and all that? In no way are your a tiresome thick repetitive fcker, no way.

[Matthew Le God]

Yeah outthought by a great pseudo intellectual who thinks he’s onto something with the thread being bad things happen like so God can’t be good. Genius levels of theological thinking. Maybe bring up some Leviticus or Deuteronomy you being clever and all that? In no way are your a tiresome thick repetitive fcker, no way.

 

Ok... actually form a rebuttal.

 

Explain how a living, all knowing And all powerful God is not an oxymoron. Because those qualities are in conflict with each other and aren't logically possible for all to be the case at the same time.

[Matthew Le God]

Loving not living

[whelk]

You can't form rebuttals and resort to petty insults. I am educated to masters level... I know how evidence works... you clearly don't!

 

Don’t believe this at all.

[Matthew Le God]

I'm also intrigued why using Leviticus or Deuteronomy to show how evil this character is isn't valid.

[whelk]

Ok... actually form a rebuttal.

 

Explain how a living, all knowing And all powerful God is not an oxymoron. Because those qualities are in conflict with each other and aren't logically possible for all to be the case at the same time.

 

Nice to see you giving the God a capital G

Maybe you will not remain lost forever

[Matthew Le God]

Don’t believe this at all.

 

What don't you believe?

[Matthew Le God]

Nice to see you giving the God a capital G

Maybe you will not remain lost forever

 

Yet again... ignoring questions

[whelk]

I'm also intrigued why using Leviticus or Deuteronomy to show how evil this character is isn't valid.

 

Selective sunshine.

How do you square eye for eye with turn the other cheek? Must blow your tiny mind having that seeming contradiction to process. And all in the same book! Sort of thing might have to process in a Masters perhaps?

[whelk]

What don't you believe?

 

Just teasing

[Raging Bull]

Nice to see you giving the God a capital G

Maybe you will not remain lost forever

 

We can but pray

[Matthew Le God]

Selective sunshine.

How do you square eye for eye with turn the other cheek? Must blow your tiny mind having that seeming contradiction to process. And all in the same book! Sort of thing might have to process in a Masters perhaps?

 

Not mind blowing. Simply explained by it being written by lots of different men with their own ideas and not by a loving, all knowingand all powerful god.

[Turkish]

Not arrogant. The last 13 years on this forum have shown you dont understand how evidence or rebuttals work

 

Incredibly arrogant. Laughable you say that you know how evidence works when you spent years telling us we were going to get a 45,000 stadium based on a few drawings and because a few others clubs were looking at expanding their grounds. How's the expansion coming on by the way? It was meant to start in 2012 or 13.

[Matthew Le God]

Incredibly arrogant. Laughable you say that you know how evidence works when you spent years telling us we were going to get a 45,000 stadium based on a few drawings and because a few others clubs were looking at expanding their grounds. How's the expansion coming on by the way? It was meant to start in 2012 or 13.

 

At no point did I say it would definitely happen. Yet again you twisting words!

[Matthew Le God]

Maybe you will not remain lost forever

 

If your god is all knowing then he knows what it would take for non believers to believe in him. Yet he decides not to provide that level of evidence. That is the action of an inept and incompetent deity... or more likely one that doesn't exist and is a man made creation used to explain what at the time was unexplained.