washsaint Posted 25 January, 2020 Share Posted 25 January, 2020 He's now relegated to 4th choice striker, behind Long and Obafemi. Difficult to see him having any future here beyond the summer and honestly looks out of his depth right now as a Prem footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 25 January, 2020 Author Share Posted 25 January, 2020 Today was his chance, admittedly he only got 20 minutes or so but he just doesn't look like ever clicking for us think it's best for both parties if we can find a buyer, surely lots of championship clubs would take a punt on him at 10 million Leeds included Sent from my moto g(7) play using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 25 January, 2020 Share Posted 25 January, 2020 It is hard to come on and shine for a few minutes. There was an opportunity to play him from the start today and given that Ralph has said he needs him I am surprised he wasn’t given a chance. If I was Che I would want a move. I hope that he stays and does well, but so far it seems as if he is not trusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 25 January, 2020 Share Posted 25 January, 2020 Today was his chance, admittedly he only got 20 minutes or so but he just doesn't look like ever clicking for us think it's best for both parties if we can find a buyer, surely lots of championship clubs would take a punt on him at 10 million Leeds included Sent from my moto g(7) play using Tapatalk You are really clueless have you ever played a game in your life? Coming on picking up pace of game when chasing it? Clueless Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 25 January, 2020 Share Posted 25 January, 2020 Today was his chance, admittedly he only got 20 minutes or so but he just doesn't look like ever clicking for us think it's best for both parties if we can find a buyer, surely lots of championship clubs would take a punt on him at 10 million Leeds included Sent from my moto g(7) play using Tapatalk Today was his chance....but only gets 20 minutes. Should maybe read what you write before posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 26 January, 2020 Share Posted 26 January, 2020 Adams has started 10 games in all competitions and come on as a sub in 12 in all competitions. His stats are 0 goals and 2 assists (1 in the League). When he was starting our results were terrible (not all his fault as the tactics were poor). He will never be a Prem player - at least not for Saints. he is now 4th choice striker and looks extremely poor compared to the other 3 options (including a 19 year old rookie and a 33 year old Long). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 26 January, 2020 Share Posted 26 January, 2020 Adams has started 10 games in all competitions and come on as a sub in 12 in all competitions. His stats are 0 goals and 2 assists (1 in the League). When he was starting our results were terrible (not all his fault as the tactics were poor). He will never be a Prem player - at least not for Saints. he is now 4th choice striker and looks extremely poor compared to the other 3 options (including a 19 year old rookie and a 33 year old Long). Jesse Lindgard just scored his first domestic goal in 366 days Che has a bit of time yet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 26 January, 2020 Share Posted 26 January, 2020 Agreed Ron - but the problem is Carillo was (rightly) panned as a complete transfer failure and in fewer games has more assists than Adams (although both have a big fat goose egg in terms of goals). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 26 January, 2020 Share Posted 26 January, 2020 Agreed Ron - but the problem is Carillo was (rightly) panned as a complete transfer failure and in fewer games has more assists than Adams (although both have a big fat goose egg in terms of goals). If comparing him to Carillo then Adams had good game against Chelsea...Carillo was appalling in all his performances especially against Wigan was abysmal Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 26 January, 2020 Share Posted 26 January, 2020 Agreed Ron - but the problem is Carillo was (rightly) panned as a complete transfer failure and in fewer games has more assists than Adams (although both have a big fat goose egg in terms of goals).Che is a great deal younger than Carillo and, given massive inflation in the market, was bought for considerably less money than him. Che is clearly a prospect for the future that we feel we can develop into a good player, Carillo was clearly supposed to be the finished article and to get us goals immediately, which he didn't do. Sent from my G3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 27 January, 2020 Share Posted 27 January, 2020 Jesse Lindgard just scored his first domestic goal in 366 days Che has a bit of time yet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk And hes not a proven prem striker either ...just happens to swan around thinking hes made it ...........well actually he has ,dosent have to do anything for a living anymore so why bother?...never going to fill out his potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 27 January, 2020 Share Posted 27 January, 2020 Jesse Lindgard just scored his first domestic goal in 366 days Che has a bit of time yet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk And hes not a proven prem striker either ...just happens to swan around thinking hes made it ...........well actually he has ,dosent have to do anything for a living anymore so why bother?...never going to fill out his potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 16 February, 2020 Author Share Posted 16 February, 2020 Worth every penny so far! a lot of people on here said his scuffed shot style & positional awareness is not suited to the premier League Sent from my moto g(7) play using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 Sorry for the guy, but will he ever score or even look like scoring? He must be in a state of confusion to add to anxiety. don't see him getting through that this season. Maybe next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 I'd maybe look to shift him in the summer. Doesn't have the work rate of Long or the goals of Ings. Can't see him suddenly getting a regular run without injuries. Plenty of players have smashed the championship but struggled with the EPL. No shame and suspect we'd recover what we paid for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 has not had a shot on target (in the league) since September. but will come good, I am sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 What is he supposed to do with 5 mins at the end of every game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 What is he supposed to do with 5 mins at the end of every game? force his way into the team? or at least, force his way to 3rd choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 What is he supposed to do with 5 mins at the end of every game? This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 Thought he looked good at the start of the season but now clear fourth choice. When Ings get injured we really don’t have anyone else we can rely on for goals unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 He hasn't been given 5 mins at the end of a game. He's been given over 900 minutes or the equivalent of 10 full games this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 Better or worse than Carillo? (Ignoring price tag). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 Better or worse than Carillo? (Ignoring price tag). Better! While Carrillo got less chance with us, he's never really delivered at any club. Che scored 22 last season for an average Championship club. He has something, just maybe not ideally setup for the EPL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 Better or worse than Carillo? (Ignoring price tag). He's got more ability but neither of them have Premier league ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 Better or worse than Carillo? (Ignoring price tag). No better, no worse. Equally ineffective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 Sorry, but for me, worse in what I've seen thus far. That coupled with the fact that somebody stated yesterday that his last shot on target was against Sheffield United. That was months ago, I know he doesn't get on much but when he does, he needs to at least affect the game. From what I've seen so far, barring an assist, he appears largely ineffective. Sent from my SM-T590 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 If we can move him on I'd take a genuine look at Rangers Alfredo Morelos His work rate is similar to Ings and he knows how to score goals. Yes it's the Scottish league but he is a stand out player and I'm confident he'd succeed in the EPL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 He made two good runs yesterday that were not spotted which had the ball been played would have put him in behind them - Bertrand in particular guilty, seems like the team dont want to pass to him or give him a chance, bit like the fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 16 February, 2020 Author Share Posted 16 February, 2020 I'd maybe look to shift him in the summer. Doesn't have the work rate of Long or the goals of Ings. Can't see him suddenly getting a regular run without injuries. Plenty of players have smashed the championship but struggled with the EPL. No shame and suspect we'd recover what we paid for him.A championship club are going to pay 15 million for him? Sent from my moto g(7) play using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 A championship club are going to pay 15 million for him? Sent from my moto g(7) play using Tapatalk Leeds were reported to have offered £20m with conditions of promotion. So it's not impossible. He's 23 and scored 22 championship goals last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 Unfortunately, no way a Prem player (at least for us). Apparently he has not had a shot on target since the Sheff Utd game on Sep 14!!!!!!! Even allowing for the fact he has become a bit part player that is absolutely shocking. That was 5 MONTHS ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 Long's new contract does change the equation a bit. If we're expecting another season from Long as a starter then £15-20m for a bench player must be very appealing for a club that only buys once it's sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 16 February, 2020 Share Posted 16 February, 2020 Beattie was quite complimentary about him. i reckon he knows more than the average Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint97 Posted 22 February, 2020 Share Posted 22 February, 2020 what a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 February, 2020 Share Posted 22 February, 2020 what a player One cross field ball to a player in acres of space to tap into an empty net? Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 22 February, 2020 Share Posted 22 February, 2020 Was good when he came on. Exactly what you want from a sub. He made good decisions and caused them problems. Probably his best sub impact, certainly at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 22 February, 2020 Share Posted 22 February, 2020 Did a lot more than obafemi. Held the ball well and assisted another goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 22 February, 2020 Author Share Posted 22 February, 2020 Was good when he came on. Exactly what you want from a sub. He made good decisions and caused them problems. Probably his best sub impact, certainly at home.It was an acceptable performance & good assist but too soon to get carried away... He needs to step up to the occasion regularly & prove he is good enough for a starting eleven... Can't see that happening Sent from my moto g(7) play using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 22 February, 2020 Share Posted 22 February, 2020 Did a lot more than obafemi. Held the ball well and assisted another goal Obafemi did alright, they both did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 22 February, 2020 Share Posted 22 February, 2020 At least he forces players to make blocks or saves to stop him scoring rather than completely fluffing his shots like long did when he was on a barren run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 February, 2020 Share Posted 22 February, 2020 I thought he did alright when he came on. Let's be honest, he did everything to score....just someone on the line. Just typical how his luck is going. An awesome cross field though to free Armstrong, that was really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RinNY Posted 24 February, 2020 Share Posted 24 February, 2020 Che Adams shows plenty of promise. It's a pity the goals aren't happening for him just now, but that'll likely change: he has come very close a few times. Against Villa his final contribution was superb. Fought hard to get the the punched out ball, that he really looked second favorite to reach; having got to it first after all, shielded the ball well from the Villa player, holding him off and pivoting perfectly away from him; then looked up to survey his options and at once saw the vast space available upfield and where Armstrong was racing into it; and his raking cross field pass was perfectly weighted and placed for Armstrong to run onto! The whole thing was class, and shows the sort of thing Che has in his locker: determination, fighting spirit, vision, and the ability to hit an accurate long pass. Lots to like there, even if it was just one action. He has had other actions when given the chance that show why Ralph was determined in January to hold onto him. Ralph knows what he's doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 24 February, 2020 Share Posted 24 February, 2020 Definitely something about him. Strong, eye for a pass, works hard. Ahead of Obafemi for me. Keep him and he'll come good in terms of goals too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 24 February, 2020 Share Posted 24 February, 2020 It was a sublime pass for sure. All credit to Ralph for showing faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 24 February, 2020 Share Posted 24 February, 2020 Who leaves in the summer? Adams or Obafemi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 24 February, 2020 Share Posted 24 February, 2020 Who leaves in the summer? Adams or Obafemi? Neither Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 24 February, 2020 Share Posted 24 February, 2020 (edited) No reason for either to leave. Give longy another 1 year extension and phase in Adams or Obafemi next season and phase out Shane. Sell Boufal and bring in an AM to compete with redmond, djenepo and Armstrong along with a CM, cb, and an Rb and we'll be laughing. Sent from my G3311 using Tapatalk Edited 24 February, 2020 by TWar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 24 February, 2020 Share Posted 24 February, 2020 Who leaves in the summer? Adams or Obafemi? I’d guess if we could bring a striker in, Obafemi would be loaned out, leaving us with Ings, Long (and his new contract), Adams and New Str. However, bids could come in for Ings that could test our resolve, and I’d hazard a guess Championship clubs will be sniffing around Adams, as Leeds did in January. It could be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 24 February, 2020 Share Posted 24 February, 2020 It was a sublime pass for sure. All credit to Ralph for showing faith. The way he turned his man, under pressure, was also excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 24 February, 2020 Share Posted 24 February, 2020 And it was his physical strength that allowed him to fend off the player in order for him to make that pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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