washsaint Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Nuff said. With Djenepo he looks a constant threat - Redmond has been gash this season and does not deserve to start IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Yeah "Henry" has been predictably pants since the new improved contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Drop Hojberg, Redmond and Stephens for me. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Drop Hojberg, Redmond and Stephens for me. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk And Cedric. All utter gash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Drop Hojberg, Redmond and Stephens for me. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Who do you bring in in place of PEH and Stephens though? Boufal over Redmond looks like a no-brainer. But we just don't have anyone else who is instantly and obviously better than those two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Who do you bring in in place of PEH and Stephens though? Boufal over Redmond looks like a no-brainer. But we just don't have anyone else who is instantly and obviously better than those two Yeah it's got to the stage where just building a partnership with 2 of the centre backs is the only option as all of them have their moments. Don't get the PEH stuff, thought while not perfect was much better. I'd get valery in for cedric and boufal for redmond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Bring in Lemina and Hoedt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Subs playing well are brilliant until they start a match , then they seem to lose their edge , similar to players being really good until they get a new 5 year mega bucks contract ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Subs playing well are brilliant until they start a match , then they seem to lose their edge , similar to players being really good until they get a new 5 year mega bucks contract ....... True. but Boufal was looking pretty handy earlier in the season when he was starting though. I think the OP is right. Redmond has done nothing this season to warrant starting every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Romeu and boufal in for redmond and hojbjerg please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Yep. Boufal Djenepo and Ings all must start against Borwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Yeah it's got to the stage where just building a partnership with 2 of the centre backs is the only option as all of them have their moments. Don't get the PEH stuff, thought while not perfect was much better. I'd get valery in for cedric and boufal for redmond. This. I just don’t get Redmond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Have got tired of saying it. The man is our most talented player. Safe and tidy players make **** all difference. Get a player with that quality on the pitch as much as you can. Yes he might lose ball now and again, but when he gets it right he’s a match winner, game changer. Redknapp jnr saw one game at st Mary’s and was calling for him to start next game. It’s only our swivel-eyed element that get sweaty whenever he’s on the pitch jumping at his every mistake with a microscope. Play your best players RALPH. Do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Yep. Boufal Djenepo and Ings all must start against Borwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc oli Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Redmond up front instead of obafeymi. I’d still trust him to finish better than him, his all round play is better and excelled there last season- eg hudders away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Yep. Boufal Djenepo and Ings all must start against Borwich. Agree, and I’d probably play Adams or Long instead of Obafemi, thought he was poor today. Maybe Valery instead of Cedric too actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 There is not point in Obafemi so would move Djenepo further up and start with Boufal. Our defending is woeful so our best chance is to get our best forwards on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Subs playing well are brilliant until they start a match , then they seem to lose their edge , similar to players being really good until they get a new 5 year mega bucks contract .......Very much this. Players make an impact the deserve a chance but inevitably the last few seasons those players given chance on the back of a good sub performance or two so often go on to disappoint. Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 I'm surprised we haven't given Adams more of a chance or at least a chance from the bench. Redmond starts every game and he's been rubbish this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Very much this. Players make an impact the deserve a chance but inevitably the last few seasons those players given chance on the back of a good sub performance or two so often go on to disappoint. Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk You hate Boufal don’t you? Go on admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 The last time Boufal was given a long run in the Saints team he was..... oh that’s never happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 You hate Boufal don’t you? Go on admit it. He's right though. How many times before have we seen this from Boufal? Like that West Brom goal where he then got 5 starts in a row and did bugger all. FWIW I would also start him on Wednesday and give him another go, although this is mainly because our other options are generally poor. I wont be holding my breath however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 He's right though. How many times before have we seen this from Boufal? Like that West Brom goal where he then got 5 starts in a row and did bugger all. FWIW I would also start him on Wednesday and give him another go, although this is mainly because our other options are generally poor. I wont be holding my breath however. I was expecting you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 30 November, 2019 Author Share Posted 30 November, 2019 I was expecting you... LOL - beat me to it! I often wonder what many of our current fans would have made of MLT back in the day. Like Boufal, outrageously talented and mercurial but an absolute joy to watch. Someone you would pay money to see. Only Djenepo and Boufal could you say that about in our current squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 You hate Boufal don’t you? Go on admit it.Well lets put it this way I prefer Moussa Djenepo that boy has talent and is lot more direct and effective than Redmond or Boufal imo Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 LOL - beat me to it! I often wonder what many of our current fans would have made of MLT back in the day. Like Boufal, outrageously talented and mercurial but an absolute joy to watch. Someone you would pay money to see. Only Djenepo and Boufal could you say that about in our current squad. Oh please Boufal isn't fit to scrub MLT boots he isn't even as good as Lallana in his prime. It's like comparing Matt Oakley and Kevin De Bruyne.. Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 30 November, 2019 Share Posted 30 November, 2019 Oh please Boufal isn't fit to scrub MLT boots he isn't even as good as Lallana in his prime. It's like comparing Matt Oakley and Kevin De Bruyne.. Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk What pointless comparisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 1 December, 2019 Share Posted 1 December, 2019 Judge them by performance please. Boufal to replace Redmond and Adam to replace Obafemi. Adam, lets give him a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 1 December, 2019 Share Posted 1 December, 2019 Valery for the disinterested Cedric Long for Obafemi (him and Boufal coming on changed the game both yesterday and at Arsenal we nood his running commitment and the fact he can hold up a ball up front) Boufal for Redmond Yoshida for Stephens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 1 December, 2019 Share Posted 1 December, 2019 I agree with many that Boufal is a good impact sub. Maybe start him and let Redmond become that impact sub instead because IMHO since he’s signed that extended contract he’s never been the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 1 December, 2019 Share Posted 1 December, 2019 It’s absolutely criminal how Boufal keeps ending up on the bench.. every time he’s on the pitch we look ten times more dangerous ., his skill and quality on the ball allows him to beat players again and again..for those saying he has no end product..he’s creating chances every game, put it on s plate for long this game, djenepo last game . Came on and created our goal vs Everton the assist for redmond earlier in the season, he just makes things happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carljack Posted 1 December, 2019 Share Posted 1 December, 2019 Have got tired of saying it. The man is our most talented player. Safe and tidy players make **** all difference. Get a player with that quality on the pitch as much as you can. Yes he might lose ball now and again, but when he gets it right he’s a match winner, game changer. Redknapp jnr saw one game at st Mary’s and was calling for him to start next game. It’s only our swivel-eyed element that get sweaty whenever he’s on the pitch jumping at his every mistake with a microscope. Play your best players RALPH. Do it. All of the above,If you work hard all week pay good money for your season ticket then the brilliant jinking runs he made yesterday are what you want to see,Danny Ings and Boufal lifted the whole place yesterday,from being booed of at HT to a standing ovation at FT what a turnaround. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 1 December, 2019 Share Posted 1 December, 2019 It’s absolutely criminal how Boufal keeps ending up on the bench.. every time he’s on the pitch we look ten times more dangerous ., his skill and quality on the ball allows him to beat players again and again..for those saying he has no end product..he’s creating chances every game, put it on s plate for long this game, djenepo last game . Came on and created our goal vs Everton the assist for redmond earlier in the season, he just makes things happen Like Bournemouth and Spurs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 1 December, 2019 Share Posted 1 December, 2019 Like Bournemouth and Spurs? Strange examples we actually threatened a lot offensively in both games ? Look at the stats. I just think we get a lot more chances when he’s on the pitch and he has the ability to operate in tight spaces and still create beat players and cause problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 1 December, 2019 Share Posted 1 December, 2019 Valery for the disinterested Cedric I think they call that Hobson’s choice. Neither are good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 1 December, 2019 Share Posted 1 December, 2019 Like Bournemouth and Spurs? He has influenced the game more often than not. What is exactly your point, trying to contradict posts at all costs? What is your opinion of Boufal? Write something intelligent for once... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 1 December, 2019 Share Posted 1 December, 2019 He has influenced the game more often than not. What is exactly your point, trying to contradict posts at all costs? What is your opinion of Boufal? Write something intelligent for once... He hasn’t the capability to write anything intelligent the blokes a #rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morse Posted 1 December, 2019 Share Posted 1 December, 2019 The problem with Boufal is the same problem with three-quarters of our squad, and that's a lack of consistency. He does deserve to start Wednesday though if he can avoid kitchen tables . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 1 December, 2019 Share Posted 1 December, 2019 LOL - beat me to it! I often wonder what many of our current fans would have made of MLT back in the day. Like Boufal, outrageously talented and mercurial but an absolute joy to watch. Someone you would pay money to see. Only Djenepo and Boufal could you say that about in our current squad. What a load of pony. We pay money to watch every ****ing player, or do you get in for free when Djenepo & Boufal are out. To compare Boufal to Matt is a ****ing joke. I don’t wonder what our current fans would have made of Matt, I know what they’d make of him. They’d love him, because he was a far far better player than Boufal will ever be. As were Tadic,Lallana, & Mane. 10 minute cameos aren’t a “joy to watch”, there’s a reason 4 different managers haven’t played him week in week out,and it’s not because they’re Ian Branfoot clones. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 1 December, 2019 Author Share Posted 1 December, 2019 What a load of pony. We pay money to watch every ****ing player, or do you get in for free when Djenepo & Boufal are out. To compare Boufal to Matt is a ****ing joke. I don’t wonder what our current fans would have made of Matt, I know what they’d make of him. They’d love him, because he was a far far better player than Boufal will ever be. As were Tadic,Lallana, & Mane. 10 minute cameos aren’t a “joy to watch”, there’s a reason 4 different managers haven’t played him week in week out,and it’s not because they’re Ian Branfoot clones. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You're entitled to your opinion, same as I am to mine. Mane was given a rough ride by many as was Tadic. Who's comparing Boufal to MLT? The point I was making is that the flair players drift in and out of games and today's fans will more often than not moan and whinge (as happened with both Tadic and Mane). SO you would rather see the sh**e that preceded Boufal coming on yesterday? When he came on it was exciting to watch with tricks, mistakes and flair - as opposed to the utter sh**e that preceded it that was one paced and predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 1 December, 2019 Share Posted 1 December, 2019 Sofiane absolutely has to 100% start the next game. Has phenomenal talent and is a match winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 1 December, 2019 Share Posted 1 December, 2019 He has influenced the game more often than not. What is exactly your point, trying to contradict posts at all costs? What is your opinion of Boufal? Write something intelligent for once... My opinion of Boufal is that he has looked half decent coming off the bench this season but has rarely looked good when starting in his entire Saints career. Four Saints managers have given him a run in the team including Ralph, who gave him five starts in a row from Fulham to Spurs. None of them rated him enough to stay in the team and he was always dropped, plus he was in and out of Sevilla's team when he was on loan. Against Bournemouth and Spurs we looked clueless going forward. We got a penalty for a silly foul on Adams and a howler from Lloris. Apart from that we failed to score against one of the leakiest defences in the league and an under-performing Spurs with ten men. I'm not laying the blame at Boufal here but he hardly stood out above the rest in some very tepid Saints performances. I'll say it again, I'd start him Wednesday and give him ANOTHER run in the team but this talk of giving him a new contract, saying he's by far our best player, a phenomenal talent and, "I'd pay to watch him, like MLT," I just find bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 1 December, 2019 Share Posted 1 December, 2019 My opinion of Boufal is that he has looked half decent coming off the bench this season but has rarely looked good when starting in his entire Saints career. Four Saints managers have given him a run in the team including Ralph, who gave him five starts in a row from Fulham to Spurs. None of them rated him enough to stay in the team and he was always dropped, plus he was in and out of Sevilla's team when he was on loan. Against Bournemouth and Spurs we looked clueless going forward. We got a penalty for a silly foul on Adams and a howler from Lloris. Apart from that we failed to score against one of the leakiest defences in the league and an under-performing Spurs with ten men. I'm not laying the blame at Boufal here but he hardly stood out above the rest in some very tepid Saints performances. I'll say it again, I'd start him Wednesday and give him ANOTHER run in the team but this talk of giving him a new contract, saying he's by far our best player, a phenomenal talent and, "I'd pay to watch him, like MLT," I just find bizarre. Agree with all of this. He deserves a go while Redmond's out of form, but has never been all that. Better since coming back from loan though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 2 December, 2019 Share Posted 2 December, 2019 Judge them by performance please. Boufal to replace Redmond and Adam to replace Obafemi. Adam, lets give him a chance While we're at it, OR or SA for PEH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 2 December, 2019 Share Posted 2 December, 2019 My opinion of Boufal is that he has looked half decent coming off the bench this season but has rarely looked good when starting in his entire Saints career. Four Saints managers have given him a run in the team including Ralph, who gave him five starts in a row from Fulham to Spurs. None of them rated him enough to stay in the team and he was always dropped, plus he was in and out of Sevilla's team when he was on loan. Against Bournemouth and Spurs we looked clueless going forward. We got a penalty for a silly foul on Adams and a howler from Lloris. Apart from that we failed to score against one of the leakiest defences in the league and an under-performing Spurs with ten men. I'm not laying the blame at Boufal here but he hardly stood out above the rest in some very tepid Saints performances. I'll say it again, I'd start him Wednesday and give him ANOTHER run in the team but this talk of giving him a new contract, saying he's by far our best player, a phenomenal talent and, "I'd pay to watch him, like MLT," I just find bizarre. I think you are wrong on this one Lighthouse. Boufal is an exceptional talent. Don't worry about the odd loss of possession - he's a direct running, creative talent who tries things which often lead to something good. Djenepo, Boufal, Redmond and Ings are the four attacking players who could get the Club to safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 2 December, 2019 Share Posted 2 December, 2019 The strange thing for me is that some players (e.g. Boufal) seem to be dropped and written off by people after one or two poor games, while other players (eg JWP) have one or two good games and that seems to secure them a place in the side for months. I feel the same about centre back, where Yoshida has generally been quite good (though admittedly, we should be doing better than him as first choice) but whenever he has a dodgy game he seems to be dropped for ages, whereas Jack Stephens repeatedly plays terribly but the occasional good performance seems to guarantee his place in the starting XI. My take is that when Boufal or Djenepo get the ball, I have a sense that something might happen. Yes, that something might be that they lose the ball after running down a blind alley, but it might also be that they beat someone and create a goalscoring opportunity. I think people must be overestimating the ability of our squad or imagining that we are creating lots of chances without these players on the pitch, because I don't see it. What I see is pedestrian play with no idea how to break down the opposition, and then Boufal or Djenepo comes on and we suddenly look dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 2 December, 2019 Share Posted 2 December, 2019 Boufal, Djenepo and Ings as a front three would steer us easily clear in the right formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 2 December, 2019 Share Posted 2 December, 2019 The strange thing for me is that some players (e.g. Boufal) seem to be dropped and written off by people after one or two poor games, while other players (eg JWP) have one or two good games and that seems to secure them a place in the side for months. I feel the same about centre back, where Yoshida has generally been quite good (though admittedly, we should be doing better than him as first choice) but whenever he has a dodgy game he seems to be dropped for ages, whereas Jack Stephens repeatedly plays terribly but the occasional good performance seems to guarantee his place in the starting XI. My take is that when Boufal or Djenepo get the ball, I have a sense that something might happen. Yes, that something might be that they lose the ball after running down a blind alley, but it might also be that they beat someone and create a goalscoring opportunity. I think people must be overestimating the ability of our squad or imagining that we are creating lots of chances without these players on the pitch, because I don't see it. What I see is pedestrian play with no idea how to break down the opposition, and then Boufal or Djenepo comes on and we suddenly look dangerous. And while we're about it - a message to whoever it is who edits the 'lengthy highlights' package on the official site. When Boufal murders the fullback with a sublime drag-back, and then comes back and megs him before laying the ball off down the wing, so much so that the fullback then gets substituted shortly after.... put it in the highlights! That's what gets bums off seats (although I was already standing anyway) and I was looking forward to watching it up close on video. He did it again shortly before or after - two or three dragbacks in a row. No not MLT, but delightful to watch, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 2 December, 2019 Share Posted 2 December, 2019 Sofiane Boufal is a huge talent as he demonstrated yet again on Saturday. Even Hasenhuttl begrudgingly praised him post match. With him and Djenepo as the support 2 behind Ings & Redmond on top in a 4-2-2-2 we should be able to tear most PL defences apart and score for fun...... ..... if only we knew how to defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 2 December, 2019 Share Posted 2 December, 2019 We've seen him do well and not get a good enough run in the team. If you're looking for an attacker with skill like that who'll do it week in week out, you'll find them at the biggest clubs in the world only. Boufal needs to start 15-20 games then judge what he does. It's an odd argument to cite inconsistency when in the last couple of years we've given Redmond, Long, JWP and others long runs in the side. Boufal is a bit like Tadic in that maybe he's not suited to defensive sides or those battling relegation. He needs to play with decent attackers he can link up with. But we can't defend anyway so we might as well attack. Boufal and Djenepo are exactly the players we should have here, all the talent and time and coaching needed to fulfil it. Those two around Ings is a decent attack if it's given time. Otherwise it's more months of Redmond stood on the left, slowing down, cutting in, cutting back, passing it back to Bertrand, getting it back, looking for the overlap, passing it out of play. Absolutely .. I’ve been saying for ages that boufal absolutely murders redmond as a attacking player.. frustrates the crap out of me that Ralph seems blind to this.. and Hughes was no better falling out with him and packing him off to Spain... he’s came back with a super attitude created many chances, beats players for fun we always look more dangerous with him on the pitch then not. I think he’s a world class talent ready to explode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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