Fitzhugh Fella Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 Wrong Trousers, there IS a conclusion. Actually there are multiple conclusions we cab draw: 1. Ru**rt has an advisor that he has kept hidden from the world 2. This advisor is heavily involved in setting football policy 3. This advisor irritates many people on the coaching staff, but they're afraid of acting against him 4. This advisor has as much experience doing DoF stuff as Ali Dia did playing 5. Nobody in the club has made it clear what/how this advisor gets paid I am hearing he is making himself pretty unpopular in away dressing rooms with some boorish behaviour. Mind you I heard some other pretty shocking stuff from a very credible source today that really has me worried. Unfortunately a lot of it is libellous so I'll keep it to myself (heard from more than one source) but I heard that JP has not conducted a pre-match or HT team talk for some while. No prizes for guessing who is. If anyone knows some current players I would be grateful if this could be verified?
ladysaint Posted 23 January, 2009 Author Posted 23 January, 2009 FF thanks for this information anyway of substaniating who K v.d. W is and what is background is I just cant believe we are in about the 4th day of this any still no nearer any information.
SaintRobbie Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 I am hearing he is making himself pretty unpopular in away dressing rooms with some boorish behaviour. Mind you I heard some other pretty shocking stuff from a very credible source today that really has me worried. Unfortunately a lot of it is libellous so I'll keep it to myself (heard from more than one source) but I heard that JP has not conducted a pre-match or HT team talk for some while. No prizes for guessing who is. If anyone knows some current players I would be grateful if this could be verified? Certainly would explain the rapid decline of form and the clear irritation amongst some of the senior players like Skacel and Wotton. If this guy is giving team talks I demand the OS tells us who the **** he is! Its as if he IS our manager and Lowe has sacked JP but wont get rid of him to save face. This is even more worrying now.
SaintRobbie Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 I think we almost need to make a plea to the players to go on strike!
NickG Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 if suggesting Lowe does team talks I would be very very surprised -remember only direct quote re this from player, was only a few weeks ago, talking about the visit to the training ground by Lowe -an opportunity for players to meet him as most hadn't and said that he popped into changing room to wish players good luck (which other pros since said is the norm)
NickG Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 I think we almost need to make a plea to the players to go on strike! or to play well and win?
SaintRobbie Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 Lowe has done team talks in the past. I certainly recall a big thing being made of one at SMS when he led us to the last relegation.
SaintRobbie Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 or to play well and win? We've done that every game so far this season. Not worked much.
NickG Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 We've done that every game so far this season. Not worked much. certainly don't listen to me -missed the only win!
NickG Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 Lowe has done team talks in the past. I certainly recall a big thing being made of one at SMS when he led us to the last relegation. not defending Lowe but personally don't believe this.
BGF Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 I asked a player a couple of weeks ago if Lowe gives team talks, he said no he might just pop in and say good luck.
lordswoodsaints Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 In the article it actually says the guy is Dutch. he is dutch,well he sounded dutch when he spoke to me anyway.
ladysaint Posted 23 January, 2009 Author Posted 23 January, 2009 Did they say anything about Kim v.d. Waals and what his role is.
SaintRobbie Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 not defending Lowe but personally don't believe this. I suspect he is just popping in and wishing the boys luck - but he certainly went in and delivered a talk along the lines of how serious it would be if the club relegated etc a couple of years ago. I'm sure it was even used as a bit of Lowe PR-opaganda on the OS.
Belgiansaint Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 Pity you can't spill the beans, FF, that would be fun.
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 Pity you can't spill the beans, FF, that would be fun. This is my last post on this guy. He might allegedly share a recreational hobby with our old friend AO. Now this could be muck spreading of the most outrageous but the person who told me is not the sort to do that. Is it true? I don't know, but my source, as I said is not prone to be political or vindictive. I do think a statement from the club telling us this person's role is now overdue.
Stoozer Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 I'm being dumb. AO? We should all pester the Echo do do a bit of journalism for a change too. A big headline on back page "Who is Saints mystery man"????
TheSaint75 Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 That kind of role would not have playing footie on the training pitch, or sit in in "screaming matches" at the coaches table. It could if it didn't go with the 'business model'
John B Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 I think we almost need to make a plea to the players to go on strike! Why Surely they are getting well paid and playing at a level some hardly expected
RoswellSaint Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 This is my last post on this guy. He might allegedly share a recreational hobby with our old friend AO. Now this could be muck spreading of the most outrageous but the person who told me is not the sort to do that. Is it true? I don't know, but my source, as I said is not prone to be political or vindictive. I do think a statement from the club telling us this person's role is now overdue. Duncan may not want to say but I'm sure someone will say what this alleged recreational hobby is.
lordswoodsaints Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 just spoke to my dad again about JP leaving and he said that kim van der walls setup the osbourne meeting and he introduced himself to my dad as jan and wottes agent. oh,and i was a witness to his recreational hobby, something which he didnt try to hide.
ladysaint Posted 23 January, 2009 Author Posted 23 January, 2009 just spoke to my dad again about JP leaving and he said that kim van der walls setup the osbourne meeting and he introduced himself to my dad as jan and wottes agent. oh,and i was a witness to his recreational hobby, something which he didnt try to hide. did he think he was in a coffee house in old Amsterdam then?
Gordon Mockles Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 did he think he was in a coffee house in old Amsterdam then? Amsterdam's changed since I last visited!!
trousers Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 just spoke to my dad again about JP leaving and he said that kim van der walls setup the osbourne meeting and he introduced himself to my dad as jan and wottes agent. oh,and i was a witness to his recreational hobby, something which he didnt try to hide. http://www.hampshire.police.uk/internet/
um pahars Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 Amsterdam's changed since I last visited!! Are they pictures of Peru or Colombia?????
dubai_phil Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 Are they pictures of Peru or Colombia????? You may think that UP but nobody could POSSIBLY comment
exit2 Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 ok sent out a few feelers and have had a couple of replys. Some of the playing squad call Kim "ruperts spy". Will post more when I get more texts back
um pahars Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 ok sent out a few feelers and have had a couple of replys. Some of the playing squad call Kim "ruperts spy". Will post more when I get more texts back Ask them: a) If they know anything about his alledged antics at Palace?? b) If he sometimes seems irational, edgey, sweaty and suffers from mood swings??
dubai_phil Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 He sound psychotic, IMO of course. Would fit in well then..........
ottery st mary Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 Apart from FF, I think there will be a few books written about 2008/9 and all this experimentation side of our History......Almost like returning to the swinging sixties without the drugs. Or maybe Kim is the main man in our next money making venture. Maybe he has already made bags of money from wherever or from whomever and he will save our sorry ass......Then we might all get busted......Where are the Crime Scene Investigators when you need them.....I blame INTERPOL for not having a name tag on everyones forehead, so we know exactly who is running our football team. My own opinion is that our white lines on the grass are never straight. No wonder our players have been off key lately.
Channon's Sideburns Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 Maybe he has already made bags of money from wherever or from whomever and he will save our sorry ass......Then we might all get busted......Where are the Crime Scene Investigators when you need them.....I blame INTERPOL for not having a name tag on everyones forehead, so we know exactly who is running our football team. My own opinion is that our white lines on the grass are never straight. No wonder our players have been off key lately. The money gets divided The women get excited.. Now I'm broke and it's no joke It's hard as hell to fight... Don't do it Right lines Ottery???
benjii Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 ok sent out a few feelers and have had a couple of replys. Some of the playing squad call Kim "ruperts spy". Will post more when I get more texts back Ask them: a) If they know anything about his alledged antics at Palace?? b) If he sometimes seems irational, edgey, sweaty and suffers from mood swings?? c) "Kim" - WTF?
um pahars Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 The money gets divided The women get excited.. Now I'm broke and it's no joke It's hard as hell to fight... Don't do it Right lines Ottery??? Next signing Robbie Fowler?????
ladysaint Posted 23 January, 2009 Author Posted 23 January, 2009 He is the striker Mike Wilde is referring to in his statement then.
benjii Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 He is the striker Mike Wilde is referring to in his statement then. Does he know how to score then?
Channon's Sideburns Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 Next signing Robbie Fowler????? Or we might ask our favourite COLUMBIAN JV back for a chorus of 'When the Saints go MARCHING in'.. Let's hope no-one sets off the POWDER Fire Extinguisher eh?
ottery st mary Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 Pass the Dutchey on the left hand side This time sung by White Stripes.
Channon's Sideburns Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 Afroman now doing the pre match entertainment??
ottery st mary Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 (edited) Matt Stevens our scoring Rugby man is not only our new striker he will assist the groundsman and Robbey Fowler with the white lines......Come in Vander Valk and take the Dutch Mafia with you. Edited 23 January, 2009 by ottery st mary spelling again
Channon's Sideburns Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 A Scmoke and a Pancake at Half-time?
Badger Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 AO = andy oldknow As opposed to arse 'ole. You could of course be forgiven for confusing the two.
ottery st mary Posted 23 January, 2009 Posted 23 January, 2009 All this Dutch nonsense, we should have stuck with The French Connection. Bring back Fernandes and Colleter and of course Le Tis (close as)
offix Posted 24 January, 2009 Posted 24 January, 2009 I am hearing he is making himself pretty unpopular in away dressing rooms with some boorish behaviour. Mind you I heard some other pretty shocking stuff from a very credible source today that really has me worried. Unfortunately a lot of it is libellous so I'll keep it to myself (heard from more than one source) but I heard that JP has not conducted a pre-match or HT team talk for some while. No prizes for guessing who is. If anyone knows some current players I would be grateful if this could be verified? Judging from the article that started this thread, Wotte is also completely powerless against KvdW, so it might be a good guess that this change from JP to Wotte is nothing more than window dressing. KvdW (with Ru**rt in his back pocket) will run the show, not Wotte
SaintRobbie Posted 24 January, 2009 Posted 24 January, 2009 Why Surely they are getting well paid and playing at a level some hardly expected But a one match strike with the fans support against Lowe would arguably do more to unite this club amongst those who care than ANYTHING.
SaintRobbie Posted 24 January, 2009 Posted 24 January, 2009 Judging from the article that started this thread, Wotte is also completely powerless against KvdW, so it might be a good guess that this change from JP to Wotte is nothing more than window dressing. KvdW (with Ru**rt in his back pocket) will run the show, not Wotte Yes, could be a very very astue assumption there offix.
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