benjii Posted 9 November, 2019 Share Posted 9 November, 2019 Can someone please make a pic of Winne the Pooh saying, "Gao must go!"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 November, 2019 Share Posted 9 November, 2019 Go where? Can you see someone buying his 80% of the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 9 November, 2019 Share Posted 9 November, 2019 Go where? Can you see someone buying his 80% of the club? I’d rather a local business man who has less money, but at least has tye clubs best interests take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 November, 2019 Share Posted 9 November, 2019 I’d rather a local business man who has less money, but at least has tye clubs best interests take over. Gao bought the club for pro rata £260m. How many local businessmen can get remotely near that kind of price? Even in the Championship, with the assets it has and the parachute payments the club is worth a lot more than most local businessmen fans can afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 9 November, 2019 Share Posted 9 November, 2019 Gao bought the club for pro rata £260m. How many local businessmen can get remotely near that kind of price? Even in the Championship, with the assets it has and the parachute payments the club is worth a lot more than most local businessmen fans can afford. It will be worth less than Bury with the ridiculous high earners we won’t be able to shift and the hundreds of millions leveraged against it because of Gao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 9 November, 2019 Author Share Posted 9 November, 2019 Go where? Can you see someone buying his 80% of the club? that’s not the point. Sometimes you just have to stand up for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangermouth Posted 9 November, 2019 Share Posted 9 November, 2019 I have to plead ignorance and ask the reason for it having to be Winnie the Pooh. Then I think it's honey pots all round, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangermouth Posted 9 November, 2019 Share Posted 9 November, 2019 Also, given the obvious similarity between 'Gao' and 'go' (as well as 'goa') why not: "Gao away", "Gao now", "Be-gaone", "Gao back to Goa" (most people aren't too fussed with geographical peculiarities), etc?? Alternatively can't someone just burn a flag of him and the Chinese Flag together on television? I would have thought that would have meant he would leave in about 3 seconds flat although it might backfire and you'd need a fire extinguisher nearby for safety reasons. There must be a multitude of ways to get him to sell to an American owner who wants a franchise abroad. These days I don't see any decent prosepective owners anywhere, I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 9 November, 2019 Share Posted 9 November, 2019 I have to plead ignorance and ask the reason for it having to be Winnie the Pooh. Then I think it's honey pots all round, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 9 November, 2019 Share Posted 9 November, 2019 Gao's ears are in a completely different place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morse Posted 9 November, 2019 Share Posted 9 November, 2019 I have to plead ignorance and ask the reason for it having to be Winnie the Pooh. Then I think it's honey pots all round, yes. China banned Winnie the Pooh after some people decided the chinese president looked like Master Pooh and he was mocked online. The theory is nobody does anything in China without political consent, if Gaos actions result in the President being mocked he'll be skating on very thin ice and maybe made to sell up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Posted 10 November, 2019 Share Posted 10 November, 2019 Who does Winnie the Pooh plan to replace Gao with? Biggest complaint about Gao appears to me that he won't invest his own money. If he had pumped £300m of his own cash into transfers it wouldn't surprise me that Saints fans would happily turn a blind eye to his dodgy background. City fans being an obvious example of this. It will cost £200m min to buy the club plus £50m towards transfer every year so around £500m cash available. So anyone who buys us will been to be worth a £1b at least unless they are an idiot and prepared to risk over half their fortune on us. Forbes estimate that there are 2200 billionaires in the world of which 20% are chinese. (according to Wikepedia anyway!!). So not many potential buyers out there at all unless it is nation state or a consortium of investors can be cobbled together. Pretty sure KL didn't have many other offers to chose from and Ashley has been trying to flog newcastle for years. So would fans be happy with someone who doesn't invest their own cash but appears to show a bit more interest / has a reputable background / is local etc? I think there is a lot dodgy about him and his dubious past so would rather we had someone else but who? If it is proved (and the last accounts suggest otherwise) that he is using the club to line his own pockets then he needs to go. Otherwise we are stuck with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 November, 2019 Share Posted 10 November, 2019 I have to plead ignorance and ask the reason for it having to be Winnie the Pooh. Then I think it's honey pots all round, yes. Watch the South Park episode “Band in China”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 10 November, 2019 Author Share Posted 10 November, 2019 Who does Winnie the Pooh plan to replace Gao with? Biggest complaint about Gao appears to me that he won't invest his own money. If he had pumped £300m of his own cash into transfers it wouldn't surprise me that Saints fans would happily turn a blind eye to his dodgy background. City fans being an obvious example of this. It will cost £200m min to buy the club plus £50m towards transfer every year so around £500m cash available. So anyone who buys us will been to be worth a £1b at least unless they are an idiot and prepared to risk over half their fortune on us. Forbes estimate that there are 2200 billionaires in the world of which 20% are chinese. (according to Wikepedia anyway!!). So not many potential buyers out there at all unless it is nation state or a consortium of investors can be cobbled together. Pretty sure KL didn't have many other offers to chose from and Ashley has been trying to flog newcastle for years. So would fans be happy with someone who doesn't invest their own cash but appears to show a bit more interest / has a reputable background / is local etc? I think there is a lot dodgy about him and his dubious past so would rather we had someone else but who? If it is proved (and the last accounts suggest otherwise) that he is using the club to line his own pockets then he needs to go. Otherwise we are stuck with him. I'm happy with someone not pumping money in if they can show me: a) they give a flying duck about the team b) their motives are sound and in-line with sporting success c) they have some sort of plan or competence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 10 November, 2019 Author Share Posted 10 November, 2019 At the moment, we are the new Portsmouth. Heading for financial ruin and relegation under "unconventional" (being polite) ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 10 November, 2019 Share Posted 10 November, 2019 Watch the South Park episode “Band in China”.Which you can do as long as you aren't in China where South park doesn't exist.. Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 November, 2019 Share Posted 10 November, 2019 (edited) Who does Winnie the Pooh plan to replace Gao with? Biggest complaint about Gao appears to me that he won't invest his own money. If he had pumped £300m of his own cash into transfers it wouldn't surprise me that Saints fans would happily turn a blind eye to his dodgy background. City fans being an obvious example of this. It will cost £200m min to buy the club plus £50m towards transfer every year so around £500m cash available. So anyone who buys us will been to be worth a £1b at least unless they are an idiot and prepared to risk over half their fortune on us. Forbes estimate that there are 2200 billionaires in the world of which 20% are chinese. (according to Wikepedia anyway!!). So not many potential buyers out there at all unless it is nation state or a consortium of investors can be cobbled together. Pretty sure KL didn't have many other offers to chose from and Ashley has been trying to flog newcastle for years. So would fans be happy with someone who doesn't invest their own cash but appears to show a bit more interest / has a reputable background / is local etc? I think there is a lot dodgy about him and his dubious past so would rather we had someone else but who? If it is proved (and the last accounts suggest otherwise) that he is using the club to line his own pockets then he needs to go. Otherwise we are stuck with him. Not really. It’s not about pumping money into the club indefinitely. It’s about being strategic and flexible. Additional short-term investment is required to weather the storm for the next couple of seasons as we shift deadwood, unwind previous mistakes and free up resources. After that point, hopefully, things will stabilise. Let’s also be clear: investment is not an act of charity - leaving aside the potential profitability of player trading, the franchise value of being in the PL has only gone up over time, so as long as we’re in the PL, Goa stands to benefit. Edited 10 November, 2019 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 12 November, 2019 Share Posted 12 November, 2019 Go where? Can you see someone buying his 80% of the club? I'd want someone to buy 100%,we need to be shot of Ms Liebherr as well, she who is responsible for bringing Gao in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morse Posted 13 November, 2019 Share Posted 13 November, 2019 I'd want someone to buy 100%,we need to be shot of Ms Liebherr as well, she who is responsible for bringing Gao in. I think Ms Liebherr is pretty irrelevant, Gaos the problem and the main shareholder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 13 November, 2019 Share Posted 13 November, 2019 ....The theory is nobody does anything in China without political consent, if Gaos actions result in the President being mocked he'll be skating on very thin ice and maybe made to sell up. You really think this? Honestly? Just not true. There are thousands of people round the world from China doing just what they want, thanks very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morse Posted 13 November, 2019 Share Posted 13 November, 2019 Not if they're embarrassing the Government and want to continue living ' succesfully' in China there aren't. If you know of any please give examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 November, 2019 Author Share Posted 13 November, 2019 You really think this? Honestly? Just not true. There are thousands of people round the world from China doing just what they want, thanks very much When they are mainland-based and their company has just been subject to a hostile takeover by the state and they weren’t allowed to take their own cash out of the country, I think it’s fair to assume there is a level of government scrutiny here. I doubt they were too chuffed about a pretty nondescript businessman with limited financial clout owning such a high-profile asset overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 13 November, 2019 Share Posted 13 November, 2019 I think Ms Liebherr is pretty irrelevant, Gaos the problem and the main shareholder. How can the person who sold up to Gao and who still owns 20% be irrelevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 13 November, 2019 Share Posted 13 November, 2019 At least when Winnie the Pooh finishes his honey,he will have a pot to p1ss in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morse Posted 13 November, 2019 Share Posted 13 November, 2019 How can the person who sold up to Gao and who still owns 20% be irrelevant? Simply because she is now the minor partner and apparently wants to off load her remaining 20% . Gao with his 80% is calling the shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 17 November, 2019 Share Posted 17 November, 2019 Looks like the Hong Kong branch of the WTP Appreciation Society is taking a bit of a kicking tonight after a sit in at a University. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 18 November, 2019 Share Posted 18 November, 2019 Simply because she is now the minor partner and apparently wants to off load her remaining 20% . Gao with his 80% is calling the shots. Doesn't seem to be calling many shots to me. She is still clearly highly influential, and her judgement and influence is dangerously ill advised. She got us into the mess in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom & Gerry Posted 18 November, 2019 Share Posted 18 November, 2019 Why is it so difficult for Saints fans to understand that if you invest in good players you do well, and if you invest in bad players you do badly. People are to blame but it's not an exact science and a lot of those people have left. We've invested plenty - we invest in a new manager every season for f*ck sake. Only a complete mug would dig an even bigger hole. Saints fans may want a nice friendly, cuddly owner that's going to tell them everything is going to be ok but sometimes a period of tough love is what is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 19 November, 2019 Share Posted 19 November, 2019 Doesn't seem to be calling many shots to me. She is still clearly highly influential, and her judgement and influence is dangerously ill advised. She got us into the mess in the first place How have you worked that bit out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 November, 2019 Share Posted 19 November, 2019 Why is it so difficult for Saints fans to understand that if you invest in good players you do well, and if you invest in bad players you do badly. People are to blame but it's not an exact science and a lot of those people have left. We've invested plenty - we invest in a new manager every season for f*ck sake. Only a complete mug would dig an even bigger hole. Saints fans may want a nice friendly, cuddly owner that's going to tell them everything is going to be ok but sometimes a period of tough love is what is required. You are of course correct but whist we’ve spent money we’ve only spent what we’ve made from sales, when it worked well it was brilliant and I’m delighted with that model, sell Lallana, buy Mane, sell Lovren by Van dijk both for half the price, love it. But now when there are glaring holes in our squad and we still have to sell to buy, but the difference is we can’t sell, quite rightly saints fans are now asking how it is that Newcastle, Brighton, Bournemouth, palace etc can all spend tens of millions more than they’ve earned. I’ve not seen in person give a credible reason, it gets put down as agents fees and bonuses which is quite frankly utter sh*t as every other club had to pay them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambsaint Posted 19 November, 2019 Share Posted 19 November, 2019 Winnie the Pooh could probably afford to buy Gao out with the royalties he has earned over the years. Any Southampton fan with £300 million to spare could probably buy him out The totally pointless calls for Gao to go irritate me almost as much as the fact that he owns our club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 19 November, 2019 Author Share Posted 19 November, 2019 Winnie the Pooh could probably afford to buy Gao out with the royalties he has earned over the years. Any Southampton fan with £300 million to spare could probably buy him out The totally pointless calls for Gao to go irritate me almost as much as the fact that he owns our club What's pointless about it? It's worth it simply to have your say, if nothing else. You can quietly get mugged off if you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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