badgerx16 Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Sajid Javid is now stated to have 'misremembered' official statistics on homelessness when trying to score a political point. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50721308 The problem with this, as with the 'punch' in Leeds earlier today, is that social media will swiftly spread such falsehoods as 'fact', and the parties deliberately play on this knowing that their 'ultras' will swallow it hook, line, and sinker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 I'm sure that pretending all dissenting voices aren't real people makes it easier to cope with being a fanatical corbyn supporter but unfortunately you can't use that sort of deflection with the vote on Thursday. We will see how many people think like me and will reject the Corbyn McDonnell project. Thanks Vladimir but you can't vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Thanks Vladimir but you can't vote.Tick tock. Not long to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Tick tock. Not long to go. Mice die in mouse traps because of socialism ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 (edited) Too little too late. She has now become the story herself. In her tweet she refers to two senior Tory sources. It's her job to report their names if they are deliberately spreading falsehoods and using senior BBC 'journalists' as a conduit to smear opponents. That's the public interest story now. Not sure she's biased per se. Just think she's not very bright or seemingly very nice - she's a political generalist with neither an eye for policy detail nor a grasp of the big picture (Katya Adler's much better). Her bread and butter rather is access which always comes with a price: throw in an unpleasant competitive streak and you have someone who's a sitting duck to be manipulated. Edited 9 December, 2019 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Mice die in mouse traps because of socialism ? Mice normally pay for cheese obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Into the arms of Boris. Fcking hell Yes, this election is about voting for the least sh*te party. Positives for Boris getting in - Brexit goes through and hopefully Labour see the back of Corbyn and his cronies. Positives of Corbyn getting in - can’t think of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 I’m voted Labour all my life and have even been a member of the Labour Party. I stopped voted for them, when, thanks to that idiot Ed Milliband, the Party was taken over by Momentum and a load of left-wing idiots. Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott and Thornberry are a manifestation of that. I cannot vote for Corbyn and his politics. I voted for Brexit and the shenanigans of Brexit frustration in Parliament has led me into the arms of Boris. Hopefully, a defeat will make Labour look at themselves, get rid of Momentum, Corbyn and his idiot mates. Someone like Dan Jarvis could regain the centre-ground and get lifelong voters like me back. Which is ironic seeing as Boris and his "journalism" days (years of disinformation about how the EU actually works) are a huge reason why many people voted Brexit in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Which is ironic seeing as Boris and his "journalism" days (years of disinformation about how the EU actually works) are a huge reason why many people voted Brexit in the first place. Yes, of course that’s a huge reason why people voted Brexit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 The last dying breaths of a vanquished foe. Hypo-bot malfunction. Neutrality pretence deactivated. Error. Reset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Yes, of course that’s a huge reason why people voted Brexit ? Bendy bananas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Wait for the protests on from Friday. There will be many who just will not accept another defeat at the ballot box Imagine a second referendum where your lot lost. I wouldn't want to be from a foreign background that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Jonnyboy seems nervous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Imagine a second referendum where your lot lost. I wouldn't want to be from a foreign background that night. Will you be protesting or accepting defeat on Friday onwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Will you be protesting or accepting defeat on Friday onwards?The long march goes on. Revolution now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 The long march goes on. Revolution now. It's true that socialism is an unending struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Yes, this election is about voting for the least sh*te party. Positives for Boris getting in - Brexit goes through and hopefully Labour see the back of Corbyn and his cronies. Positives of Corbyn getting in - can’t think of anything.Positives of a hung parliament. Brexit deal put to a confirmatory referendum with Remain result. Another election on the basis of real policies, not just Brexit. Johnson self-destructs. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Jonnyboy seems nervous. You mean that my kids classes will continue to get larger and have less staff? Yes. You mean that getting a GPs appointment will stay like finding a needle in a haystack? Yes. You mean that the air pollution in Southampton will continue to be some of the worst in Europe? Yes. I could go on but your reply will just be more of the condescending, smirking spam so beloved by your side of the privileged political spectrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Probably because he didn’t want to play his stupid game. Brendan right on the money again. http:// https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/12/09/boris-was-right-to-rebuke-itvs-cheap-journalism/ My snap dragon is a band 7 and a raving soft arsed leftie, and even she thinks this is fishy. Claims there’s no way they wouldn’t have found a trolley or chair and there’s no way the kid had pneumonia. Wouldn’t surprise me if the parents were pinkos or lefties. Sent from my iPad using TapatalkI think the report from the hospital management confirming the unfortunate truth of the story kicks this theory into touch. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 I think the report from the hospital management confirming the unfortunate truth of the story kicks this theory into touch. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 You mean that my kids classes will continue to get larger and have less staff? Yes. You mean that getting a GPs appointment will stay like finding a needle in a haystack? Yes. You mean that the air pollution in Southampton will continue to be some of the worst in Europe? Yes. I could go on but your reply will just be more of the condescending, smirking spam so beloved by your side of the privileged political spectrum.Not so quick with the "witty" robot remarks there lad. I've clearly touched a nerve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Source? The truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Not so quick with the "witty" robot remarks there lad. I've clearly touched a nerve. You have passed the Turing Test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 (edited) All in all, I'd say the Tories, and especially their accident-prone leader, are having an absolute mare today. False allegations, jibbering interview, refusal to show compassion, theft of a phone, falsifying yet more data. Always going to be a problem eventually if you let Johnson too far from his minders and let people insist on asking questions. Once auto-bot Get Brexit Done mode starts to hiccup trouble looms. Shame Corbyn hasn't really exploited it. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Edited 9 December, 2019 by Shroppie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Not so quick with the "witty" robot remarks there lad. I've clearly touched a nerve. Even a bot comes across as having more empathy than your posts pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Not so quick with the "witty" robot remarks there lad. I've clearly touched a nerve. Showing signs of brexit derangement syndrome. January will be amusing to watch unfold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 All in all, I'd say the Tories, and especially their accident-prone leader, are having an absolute mare today. False allegations, jibbering interview, refusal to show compassion, theft of a phone, falsifying yet more data. Shame Corbyn hasn't really exploited it. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Why the Corbyn caveat? He's only one man. I'm sure his team would love to "exploit" it (very Tory word) but it's tough when head of BBC politics is on Johnson's team's speed dial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 You have passed the Turing Test.01010100 01101000 01100001 01101110 01101011 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 01010100 01101000 01100001 01101110 01101011 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 That's better. Keep the ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Why the Corbyn caveat? He's only one man. I'm sure his team would love to "exploit" it (very Tory word) but it's tough when head of BBC politics is on Johnson's team's speed dial.It's all a media conspiracy. Will you be justifying more violence on Friday if antifa take out their frustrations on the public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 It's true that socialism is an unending struggle.A struggle against reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Why the Corbyn caveat? He's only one man. I'm sure his team would love to "exploit" it (very Tory word) but it's tough when head of BBC politics is on Johnson's team's speed dial.You're right, but it was Jez making the big set-piece speech in Bristol who had the big chance. I was amazed that the BBC actually covered the NHS story and even mentioned the bizarre theft. Possibly the threat to withdraw the licence fee and signs that it's in advanced planning will make the Beeb think they've no longer got anything to lose. If they turn against the Tories in the next few days, could be interesting. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 9 December, 2019 Author Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Why the Corbyn caveat? He's only one man. I'm sure his team would love to "exploit" it (very Tory word) but it's tough when head of BBC politics is on Johnson's team's speed dial.Yes, it's completely unreasonable to expect little old Jeremy Corbyn to lead the opposition against the current government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 You're right, but it was Jez making the big set-piece speech in Bristol who had the big chance. I was amazed that the BBC actually covered the NHS story and even mentioned the bizarre theft. Possibly the threat to withdraw the licence fee and signs that it's in advanced planning will make the Beeb think they've no longer got anything to lose. If they turn against the Tories in the next few days, could be interesting. Sent from my Pixel using TapatalkDo you think the BBC are pro brexit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Yes, it's completely unreasonable to expect little old Jeremy Corbyn to lead the opposition against the current government.He's only one man. He's leading the brave socialist fight against the media establishment. You can only expect so much from Jezza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Anyone else finding it hard to know who to believe about anything right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 A struggle against reality. Back to feudalism we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Yes, it's completely unreasonable to expect little old Jeremy Corbyn to lead the opposition against the current government. Not what I wrote was it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 9 December, 2019 Author Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Not what I wrote was it.The rest of it was wah wah wah wah waaaaaaah it's a media conspiracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Do you think the BBC are pro brexit?I'd say they're pro-Tory (or allowing themselves to be manipulated by the Tories) which, given the prominence of Brexit in their campaign means they are by default probably pro-Brexit. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 (edited) Anyone else finding it hard to know who to believe about anything right now? Yes, but I would take the word of the Yorkshire Evening Post journalist who originally reported this story over "my mate reckons it's fake" any day... https://twitter.com/DSheridanYEP/status/1204140106736656384?s=19 The boy's mum has not in any way "slagged off" the hospital staff as this woman is claiming, and the hospital has admitted there was no bed for him and apologised. Edited 9 December, 2019 by Sheaf Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Mice die in mouse traps because of socialism ? People die on hospital trolleys because of Toryism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Yes, but I would take the word of the Yorkshire Evening Post journalist who originally reported this story over "my mate reckons it's fake" any day... https://twitter.com/DSheridanYEP/status/1204140106736656384?s=19Me too. Desperate attempt to discredit. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 The rest of it was wah wah wah wah waaaaaaah it's a media conspiracy. Wow, the legendary forum poster strikes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Yes, but I would take the word of the Yorkshire Evening Post journalist who originally reported this story over "my mate reckons it's fake" any day... https://twitter.com/DSheridanYEP/status/1204140106736656384?s=19 The boy's mum has not in any way "slagged off" the hospital staff as this woman is claiming, and the hospital has admitted there was no bed for him and apologised.Fair point, although I would venture things have got really weird when journalists are cited as the bastions of truth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Fair point, although I would venture things have got really weird when journalists are cited as the bastions of truth... Unlike Laura K, this guy has actually provided the name of his source at the hospital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Laura K got Batman'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 01010100 01101000 01100001 01101110 01101011 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 01010100 01101000 01100101 01111001 00100000 01110111 01101001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01100001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01100010 01100101 00100000 01100001 01110011 01110011 01101001 01101101 01101001 01101100 01100001 01110100 01100101 01100100 00100000 01100101 01110110 01100101 01101110 01110100 01110101 01100001 01101100 01101100 01111001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 9 December, 2019 Author Share Posted 9 December, 2019 01010100 01101000 01100101 01111001 00100000 01110111 01101001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01100001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01100010 01100101 00100000 01100001 01110011 01110011 01101001 01101101 01101001 01101100 01100001 01110100 01100101 01100100 00100000 01100101 01110110 01100101 01101110 01110100 01110101 01100001 01101100 01101100 01111001Disagree. It's not a binary choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 December, 2019 Share Posted 9 December, 2019 Disagree. It's not a binary choice.It is when Swinsons involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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