General Election 2019 - Post Match Reaction

[norwaysaint]

I don't buy Corbyn as pro IRA at all, that's just the right wing press getting a foothold that they can manipulate to sway opinion, kind of their job, obviously. I still couldn't back him though. He's just too divisive to lead comprehensively and he doesn't have the charisma.

 

Boris has the charisma, but no real substance and has, if anything, set brexit back even further by indulging in shenanigans rather than just negotiating well and convincing his own allies to back him.

 

I really know f... All about Jo Swindon, so won't comment. All I can say is that she hasn't looked like a ****wit yet. Damning with faint praise.

[whelk]

Whatever you think of the Tories, labour, Brexit and the rest of it, how anyone can vote for man who has been proven to be a supporter of the IRA to lead our country is beyond me.

 

That’s nothing compared to McDonald’s marketing a sundae bloody sundae

[Turkish]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/jeremy-corbyn-i-didn-t-support-the-ira-i-don-t-support-the-ira-1.3098070?mode=amp

 

Oh a denial, what do you expect him to say, "yes of course I supported the IRA"

 

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/jeremy-corbyn-has-blood-on-his-hands-from-ira-support-former-terrorist-says-35741452.html

 

Same guy that said Hamas were his friends

 

The same guy that has had members of his party leave duty his anti-Semitism

 

To be fair im not surprised you're a fan.

[Turkish]

That’s nothing compared to McDonald’s marketing a sundae bloody sundae

 

If you're going to vote for Corbyn you might as well vote for Ronald Mcdonald.

[Weston Super Saint]

I don't buy Corbyn as pro IRA at all, that's just the right wing press getting a foothold that they can manipulate to sway opinion, kind of their job, obviously.

 

Those right wing press guys must be bloody good at their jobs, that Telegraph link was from October 2015 - more than 6 months before the referendum even took place! To have their foresight must be amazing!

[sadoldgit]

Oh a denial, what do you expect him to say, "yes of course I supported the IRA"

 

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/jeremy-corbyn-has-blood-on-his-hands-from-ira-support-former-terrorist-says-35741452.html

 

Same guy that said Hamas were his friends

 

The same guy that has had members of his party leave duty his anti-Semitism

 

To be fair im not surprised you're a fan.

 

I’m a fan? No, it’s just that I am sick of the right wing press and their constant smear campaigns.

[sadoldgit]

It appears nowadays that you are anti-Semitic if you sympathise with Palestinians.

[Turkish]

I’m a fan? No, it’s just that I am sick of the right wing press and their constant smear campaigns.

 

Of course, direct quotes from former IRA members and members of the labour party leaving due to Jezza are all just smear campaigns.

[sadoldgit]

Of course, direct quotes from former IRA members and members of the labour party leaving due to Jezza are all just smear campaigns.

 

People with agendas, just like you. Whatever you think of him anyone with a brain cell can see he is a pacifist.

[Unbelievable Jeff]

It appears nowadays that you are anti-Semitic if you sympathise with Palestinians.

 

Nope, you're anti-semitic if you don't even make a reasonable effort to get rid of anti-semites in your party.

[Lord Duckhunter]

To get some of Corbyn's plans through the Lords will be nigh on impossible.

 

Exactly, the establishment will try & do to Corbyn what it’s done to Brexit.

 

And if anyone thinks Watson, Cooper & other “moderates” are going to let Jezza do anything radical, they’re deluded. They’ll be a pain in Magic Granpas arse in exactly the same way Grievence, Letwin and other wets were to Boris.

 

As for Sweaties, what on earth are they doing. Their logic seems to be; it’s too complicated and threatening to leave a 40 year old trade association, but leaving a 300 year full blown political union is a piece of ****.

 

 

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[Lord Duckhunter]

Nope, you're anti-semitic if you don't even make a reasonable effort to get rid of anti-semites in your party.

 

Attending a wreath laying service to someone who murdered innocent Israeli’s is also a slight clue.

 

 

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[Unbelievable Jeff]

So, with the latest news of Johnson and Farage not having a pact, I think the following will happen. A hung parliament, with the Lib Dems propping up the Conservatives, with that based on a Deal or Remain Referendum. Sounds bat**** crazy, I agree, but that's likely the only way Brexit will come to a conclusion.

[Unbelievable Jeff]

Exactly, the establishment will try & do to Corbyn what it’s done to Brexit.

 

And if anyone thinks Watson, Cooper & other “moderates” are going to let Jezza do anything radical, they’re deluded. They’ll be a pain in Magic Granpas arse in exactly the same way Grievence, Letwin and other wets were to Boris.

 

As for Sweaties, what on earth are they doing. Their logic seems to be; it’s too complicated and threatening to leave a 40 year old trade association, but leaving a 300 year full blown political union is a piece of ****.

 

 

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They'd only get in propped up by the Lib Dems, and Swinson is more likely to get in bed with the Tories thanks to the spending plans that Boris has proposed.

[Batman]

People with agendas, just like you. Whatever you think of him anyone with a brain cell can see he is a pacifist.

 

these lot must be just brainwashed morons

 

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/jeremy-corbyn/news/107666/jewish-labour-movement-says-it-will

 

 

In a statement, the group said "a culture of anti-semitism has been allowed to emerge and fester" in the Labour party since Mr Corbyn became leader in 2015.

 

"This crisis of anti-semitism in the Labour party stems from a failure of leadership from Jeremy Corbyn," the JLM said. "When the answer has been to take swift, decisive action, the reality has been equivocation and token gestures.

 

"Time and time again, the party has not engaged in good faith to try to implement the actions that we believe are necessary to tackle anti-Jewish racism."

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[sadoldgit]

Nope, you're anti-semitic if you don't even make a reasonable effort to get rid of anti-semites in your party.

 

And what if they are not anti-semites? How do you feel about the lack of action against Tory Islamophobes?

 

I am not a Corbyn supporter but I may well vote Labour for a second time as tactically they are the best chance to get the Tories out here. I have friends who do support Corbyn who would do if they thought for one minute that he was anti-Semitic or pro IRA. From what I can see he is pro peace and does what he thinks will bring people together, be it basic dialogue of laying a wreath out of respect to someone who has lost their life. He has made himself any easy target for the right wing press, but then they are so desperate to smear anyone or anything that will get in the way of the Government Zak’s Brexit they want they have even printed a load of lies about Bercow asking for £1m to appear on I’m A Celebrity - something we have categorically denies happened.

[Unbelievable Jeff]

And what if they are not anti-semites? How do you feel about the lack of action against Tory Islamophobes?

 

I am not a Corbyn supporter but I may well vote Labour for a second time as tactically they are the best chance to get the Tories out here. I have friends who do support Corbyn who would do if they thought for one minute that he was anti-Semitic or pro IRA. From what I can see he is pro peace and does what he thinks will bring people together, be it basic dialogue of laying a wreath out of respect to someone who has lost their life. He has made himself any easy target for the right wing press, but then they are so desperate to smear anyone or anything that will get in the way of the Government Zak’s Brexit they want they have even printed a load of lies about Bercow asking for £1m to appear on I’m A Celebrity - something we have categorically denies happened.

 

There is clearly an issue in the Labour party - it may not be large but there is an issue. His inability to act like a leader and investigate properly makes him someone who is happy to tolerate it, which makes him an anti-semite.

 

I would say Boris's inability to deal with it, after promising a thorough investigation, puts him in the same bracket. However, why can't this be looked at in isolation? Why do you have to try to compare it to the Tory's? If someone does wrong, it doesn't matter if it's evened out across the other side of the house.

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[sadoldgit]

The right wing press have been smearing Labour leaders for as long as I can remember. The only one they didn’t go after was Blair, but then they liked him because he was a watered down Tory.

[norwaysaint]

Blair was just an ambitious career politician. Ultimately there's little difference between him and Boris. Their whole act is about furthering their own careers and the policies and positions are just a tool to achieve that.

 

This is why I don't understand those on here who are such zealous Boris fans. I feel like GM and LD would watch him walk in, rinse his cock in their tepid cup of tea, **** their wives in front of them and they would just drink up and stare at the scene glassy eyed, calling him a genius.

 

Agree with his stance on brexit by all means and obviously hope his agenda succeeds. Back his party and him, but to bleat on about how flawlessly he carries out some masterplan and never sets a foot wrong is just fanboy worship that makes me cringe. If you think he cares about you, brexit or Britain, you're crazy and this is from someone who thinks brexit should be followed through.

[badgerx16]

It appears nowadays that you are anti-Semitic if you sympathise with Palestinians.

Technically, the Palestinians, along with all other Arabic peoples, are themselves Semitic.

[CB Fry]

And what if they are not anti-semites? How do you feel about the lack of action against Tory Islamophobes?

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I will totally and utterly condemn the lack of action in the Conservative Party to tackle Islamophobia. It's a disgrace and the party should be expelling those involved. No problem.

 

I also think Corbyn's behaviour and lack of leadership on the issue of anti-semitism. Spineless and shameful.

 

It's very easy to condemn both.

 

Why can you only bring yourself to condemn one?

[Jonnyboy]

Whatever you think of the Tories, labour, Brexit and the rest of it, how anyone can vote for man who has been proven to be a supporter of the IRA to lead our country is beyond me.

 

You mean woman, that Tory Councillor who used to be an actual member?

[CB Fry]

You mean woman, that Tory Councillor who used to be an actual member?

Is she running to lead the country?

[Jonnyboy]

Is she running to lead the country?

 

https://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.com/2019/10/9-things-every-voter-needs-to-know.html

[Jonnyboy]

I will totally and utterly condemn the lack of action in the Conservative Party to tackle Islamophobia. It's a disgrace and the party should be expelling those involved. No problem.

 

I also think Corbyn's behaviour and lack of leadership on the issue of anti-semitism. Spineless and shameful.

 

It's very easy to condemn both.

 

Why can you only bring yourself to condemn one?

 

Because the rate of antisemitism is lower in the Labour Party than the general population (and the Tory Party).

[Jonnyboy]

Oh a denial, what do you expect him to say, "yes of course I supported the IRA"

 

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/jeremy-corbyn-has-blood-on-his-hands-from-ira-support-former-terrorist-says-35741452.html

 

Same guy that said Hamas were his friends

 

The same guy that has had members of his party leave duty his anti-Semitism

 

To be fair im not surprised you're a fan.

 

When you're having a meeting with someone and you refer to some guests as friends it doesn't mean you condone any crime they may or may not have committed, it's called being diplomatic.

[Jonnyboy]

these lot must be just brainwashed morons

 

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/jeremy-corbyn/news/107666/jewish-labour-movement-says-it-will

 

As if you give a toss about antisemitism. You probably didn't know what the word meant until The S*n started printing it three years ago.

[CB Fry]

https://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.com/2019/10/9-things-every-voter-needs-to-know.html

A link to "Another Angry Voice". Jesus effing wept.

[sadoldgit]

Technically, the Palestinians, along with all other Arabic peoples, are themselves Semitic.

 

Oh, well that complicates matters somewhat!

[sadoldgit]

I will totally and utterly condemn the lack of action in the Conservative Party to tackle Islamophobia. It's a disgrace and the party should be expelling those involved. No problem.

 

I also think Corbyn's behaviour and lack of leadership on the issue of anti-semitism. Spineless and shameful.

 

It's very easy to condemn both.

 

Why can you only bring yourself to condemn one?

 

I am happy to condemn both. But is it really actual hatred of Jewish people or is it support of the Palestinians?

[Jonnyboy]

A link to "Another Angry Voice". Jesus effing wept.

 

Just because it's solidy pro-Corbyn doesn't mean it doesn't make some interesting points. In fact, it's quite refreshing after sifting through the barage of proven untruths and misrepresentations from the mainstream media.

[Lord Duckhunter]

I am happy to condemn both. But is it really actual hatred of Jewish people or is it support of the Palestinians?

 

It’s hatred of Jewish people.

 

 

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[Jonnyboy]

It’s hatred of Jewish people.

 

 

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Corbyn hates Jon Lansman?

[Lord Duckhunter]

Another one bites the dust.

 

 

Oh yeah, what a week. Rudd, Morgan, Liddington, Clarke and now the pinkest pinko Parris leaving the party. God, please let Fat Pang and Johnny Major be next.

 

 

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[Wade Garrett]

I reckon the media will destroy Jo Swinson. They’ve been keeping their powder very dry.

[badgerx16]

Another one bites the dust.

 

 

 

Oh yeah, what a week. Rudd, Morgan, Liddington, Clarke and now the pinkest pinko Parris leaving the party. God, please let Fat Pang and Johnny Major be next.

 

 

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At this rate you'll be left with Goebbels, Borman, John Wayne, and Genghis Khan.

[doddisalegend]

I reckon the media will destroy Jo Swinson. They’ve been keeping their powder very dry.

 

Doubt it will matter. People are going to vote for a Tory party led by Boris a man who can barely open his mouth without lying and has just presented the country with a Brexit deal worse than the one he voted down. People are going to vote for a Labour party lead by Corbyn a socialist stuck in the 70s who hates Jewish people. So unless Swinson turns out to be a kiddie fiddler or murderer lots of remainers are going to vote for the Lib Dems because no other party is offering them what they want.

[Lord Duckhunter]

I reckon the media will destroy Jo Swinson. They’ve been keeping their powder very dry.

 

She was woeful on The Andrew Neil show weds night.

 

 

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[Lord Duckhunter]

Doubt it will matter. People are going to vote for a Tory party led by Boris a man who can barely open his mouth without lying and has just presented the country with a Brexit deal worse than the one he voted down.

 

Complete pony.

 

Firstly, Boris voted for May’s deal eventually. Secondly, there’s plenty of people who believe it’s far better. May’s deal was specifically designed to stop a clean break. Boris’ deal leaves that option “on the table”. Hence ERG support.

 

 

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[Jonnyboy]

I reckon the media will destroy Jo Swinson. They’ve been keeping their powder very dry.

 

She'll still end up on the gravy train for life like Nick Clegg. Especially if she keeps helping Johnson stay in No.10.

[sadoldgit]

Another one bites the dust.

 

 

Oh yeah, what a week. Rudd, Morgan, Liddington, Clarke and now the pinkest pinko Parris leaving the party. God, please let Fat Pang and Johnny Major be next.

 

 

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What amazes me is that you really seem to pleased to see the back of people who make the party appear more palatable to voters who want a middle ground party. You do realised that once your guy “Gets Brexit Done” (not that that is going to happen any time soon) the party won’t appeal to many normal, reasonable people.

[sadoldgit]

It’s hatred of Jewish people.

 

 

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I guess you need to peddle that to take the attention away from the Islamophobia in your party.

[Tamesaint]

What amazes me is that you really seem to pleased to see the back of people who make the party appear more palatable to voters who want a middle ground party. You do realised that once your guy “Gets Brexit Done” (not that that is going to happen any time soon) the party won’t appeal to many normal, reasonable people.

 

Shhh. Don't tell Duckie but at the same time as they leave the pinkoes are returning to the cult. 10 of the 21 extreme Socialists expelled from the sect a few weeks ago were reinstated this week.

[Lord Duckhunter]

What amazes me is that you really seem to pleased to see the back of people who make the party appear more palatable to voters who want a middle ground party. You do realised that once your guy “Gets Brexit Done” (not that that is going to happen any time soon) the party won’t appeal to many normal, reasonable people.

 

“Normal, reasonable people”, like you...Lol.

 

It’s your type that were running the great lady down and coming out with the same old pony then. She proved a vote winner, took normal sensible people on a journey with her. Damn right I want to see the back of wets like Parris, long overdue purge of the party.

 

 

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[sadoldgit]

Great lady? Dear God. You don’t get it do you? She was only great to people of a certain persuasion. So when Johnson talks about being a “Broad Church” I guess he is lying again.

[Lord Duckhunter]

Shhh. Don't tell Duckie but at the same time as they leave the pinkoes are returning to the cult. 10 of the 21 extreme Socialists expelled from the sect a few weeks ago were reinstated this week.

 

There’s only 3 standing, so it’s no big deal. They’re in pinko areas, and all voted for the deal. Provided Grievence, Boles & Hammond remain in Siberia, I’m fine with it.

 

 

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[Lord Duckhunter]

Great lady? Dear God. You don’t get it do you? She was only great to people of a certain persuasion. So when Johnson talks about being a “Broad Church” I guess he is lying again.

 

Lol.....

 

Your posts get more and more ridiculous.

 

 

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[Jonnyboy]

Shhh. Don't tell Duckie but at the same time as they leave the pinkoes are returning to the cult. 10 of the 21 extreme Socialists expelled from the sect a few weeks ago were reinstated this week.

 

Was Churchill's grandson one of them?

[Tamesaint]

Was Churchill's grandson one of them?

 

Yes.

 

There should be no place in the Conservatives for closet Socialists like him. He may have been in the party all his adult life and a Conservative MP for decades but he is clearly a Trotskyist sleeper who has infiltrated the party.

[Jonnyboy]

Yes.

 

There should be no place in the Conservatives for closet Socialists like him. He may have been in the party all his adult life and a Conservative MP for decades but he is clearly a Trotskyist sleeper who has infiltrated the party.

 

Lol.

Johnson has always been jealous imo, probably wanted to be him.