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General Election 2019 - Post Match Reaction

CB Fry

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  1. 1. SWF Exit Poll

    • Conservatives
      21
    • Labour
      12
    • Liberals
      6
    • Brexit
      1
    • SNP/Plaid
      0
    • Green
      0
    • Independant
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CB Fry

CB Fry

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Here we go then.

 

Interesting that this is the decade of the invention of the Fixed Term Parliament Act and this decade will end with no less than four general elections in it.

 

The eighties had two, as did the nineties, as did the noughties. Nice to see such effective legislation in place.

 

Also, we find out our new leader on, er, Friday the 13th. Horrifying.

 

Anyway, how many seats will Boris win by?

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LGTL

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Tories polling 10 points less then when May called an election and look what happened there. Brexit party will take Tory votes, Lib Dem will take Labour votes. Hung parliament and a total waste of time.

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Unbelievable Jeff

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I really can't call this.

 

The biggest issue for the Tories is the Brexit party, and whether they can strike a deal with Farage. My guess is no because Farage is very against Boris's deal, which if the Brexiteers on here are correct, will take away most of the Brexit vote (as Brexiteers voted for no deal).

 

The Tory Remainers (of which there were 39% of their total vote) will likely go to the Lib Dems. The Tories will also be destroyed in Scotland without Ruth Davidson.

 

Labour will lose a proportion of their vote to both the Brexit party and the Lib Dems.

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Batman

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Tory win. Small majority of about 15

 

The polls will draw labour and conservatives closer as we get nearer to Election Day. All 3 major leaders will have an awful few days. Lots of shouting, lots of lies being said. Torys will go big on Brexit, Labour will go in that we have xx days to save the NHS, LibDems will say anything....

 

One thing though, another round of the god awful televised debates. Horrendous!

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CB Fry

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I think Boris will come out with a majority, not huge but enough.

 

For a couple of reasons

 

1. Brand power - Boris by a mile is the most recognised active politician, and enough will see him as a leader they can see leading.

 

2. I don't see how the Lib Dems turn their South West target seats yellow from the Tories. Those areas are pretty heavy Leave areas, and I am not sure that Jo Swinson is going to cut through.

 

3. Labour/Lib Dem vote split carnage. Fundamentally the opposition parties have not got enough in the tank to beat him.

 

The biggest obstacles Boris has is Scotland where he will lose a few, and how much Farage goes at him in northern seats.

 

But I think Boris will come back with a slightly larger majority than Cameron.

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aintforever

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God knows. If I had to put money on it I would say a hung parliament. The Tories are obviously most likely winners but I can't see them getting a majority if their vote gets split with the Brexit Party. Plus I would be surprised if Boris appeals to too many in the middle ground which is usually critical.

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To hard to call. A very small conservative majority is my guess.

 

Labour should be doing well, given the state of the Tories, but I just don't think voters want Corbyn and his brand of 1970s socialism. Also Labours fanning around on Brexit, where they've tried to walk some middle ground and appeal to leavers and Remainers, by just being vague on where they really stand has done them no favours.

 

Lib Dems, SNP will definitely do well out of their anti Brexit stand not well enough to changes thing under a FPtP system though.

 

Brexit party could do well in some leave areas Nigel is pretty good at whipping up the looney element of leave.

 

Wouldn't be surprised to see a few more greens and independents either.

 

 

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Lord Duckhunter

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I think Boris will come out with a majority, not huge but enough.

 

For a couple of reasons

 

1. Brand power - Boris by a mile is the most recognised active politician, and enough will see him as a leader they can see leading.

 

2. I don't see how the Lib Dems turn their South West target seats yellow from the Tories. Those areas are pretty heavy Leave areas, and I am not sure that Jo Swinson is going to cut through.

 

3. Labour/Lib Dem vote split carnage. Fundamentally the opposition parties have not got enough in the tank to beat him.

 

The biggest obstacles Boris has is Scotland where he will lose a few, and how much Farage goes at him in northern seats.

 

But I think Boris will come back with a slightly larger majority than Cameron.

 

There’s also the make up of the party, which will be in his favour. If he comes back with a tiny majority, it’ll be a solid one. With no ken Clarke, Rudd, Grieve, Boles,Soubry, Greening etc. Even a 4 seat majority is probably safer than May’s inherited one, or Cameron’s because he had the ERG playing havoc. Pretty much every Tory elected will follow the party line on Brexit.

 

 

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I see Rudd is the latest charlatan to bottle facing the electorate. Hopefully Hammond next. The retreat of the wets, great to see.

 

 

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Only for you hardliners, not for the rest of the country who would prefer to see a “Broad Church” party.

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I think Boris will come out with a majority, not huge but enough.

 

For a couple of reasons

 

1. Brand power - Boris by a mile is the most recognised active politician, and enough will see him as a leader they can see leading.

 

2. I don't see how the Lib Dems turn their South West target seats yellow from the Tories. Those areas are pretty heavy Leave areas, and I am not sure that Jo Swinson is going to cut through.

 

3. Labour/Lib Dem vote split carnage. Fundamentally the opposition parties have not got enough in the tank to beat him.

 

The biggest obstacles Boris has is Scotland where he will lose a few, and how much Farage goes at him in northern seats.

 

But I think Boris will come back with a slightly larger majority than Cameron.

 

This seems about right. The opposition kind of rely on being opposition so that they can unite, but nobody backs either sufficiently for them to take control and they don't really work as coalition partners. Labour have a leader that is too unpalatable for most and the Libdems are still a distance from shaking their "unelectable third party" tag, meaning they will get a big proportion of the vote, but actually win very few seats.

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Batman

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Because time and again we hear about how the country prefers centre ground politics rather than extreme politics. Clearly though you and Duckie fall in the later group.

 

Tory party or any party sitting in parliament is far from extreme.

 

You are hilarious

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Really? And yet you, Duckie and your ilk would have us believe that Corbyn is a dangerous Marxist! Do you deny that the Tories are shifting from a centrist Party and further to the right?

 

Where have I said that?

I just think him and his close team are just terrible.

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I've just had a pamphlet land on my doormat from the Lib Dumbs. It has a photo of some young girl on the front cover and a claim that she will be Britain's next Prime Minister. B0llocks to them.

 

Who will you be voting for Les? Or is that an Official Secret?

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Wes Tender

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Who will you be voting for Les? Or is that an Official Secret?

 

It's quite straightforward. I will vote Conservative, as a vote for the Brexit Party here would let in the Lib Dumbs. I have just heard that Mims Davies is not standing again which is a shame, as she has been a good constituency MP, and a Leaver too.

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badgerx16

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Is the name calling mainly a right wing thing? I don't seem to see it as much from the left or centre.

 

Come on guys, get involved! This is how we debate in 2019. You have to call them conserva-divs, or Snories/bories. Then you chuckle to yourself.

Why bother, they are amusing enough with the dross they post, especially GM's predictions. Mystic Meg he ain't.

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And they are terrible, the Corbyn regime and their supporters are nearly as much to blame for the last few years of Tory **** as the actual Tories are, due to an inability to field a credible opposition.

 

I agree with you.

Someone was on 5live earlier stating how much more of an approval rating Boris has than Corbyn. This is not because Boris’ ratings are high, it is because Corbyns are ridiculous terrible. Essentially, anything with a pulse is thought as a bette PM than him

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And they are terrible, the Corbyn regime and their supporters are nearly as much to blame for the last few years of Tory **** as the actual Tories are, due to an inability to field a credible opposition.

 

I agree with you.

Someone was on 5live earlier stating how much more of an approval rating Boris has than Corbyn. This is not because Boris’ ratings are high, it is because Corbyns are ridiculous terrible. Essentially, anything with a pulse is thought as a bette PM than him

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Really? Most of the posters on here aren't on the right of politics and they're mostly very adept at name calling and childish insults.

Haven't seen so much name calling from that side. It seems like a mostly right wing thing, like with Trump. "Lib dumbs" was the obvious one on this thread. It all seems a bit weak.

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A narcissist who likes the sound of his own voice, enjoys bullying and belittling people and who can't satisfy his wife to the point that she cheats on him? A kindred spirit?

Jeez, he's a bit of a tit, but that is just odious. Take a look at yourself mate, but until then, can't you do this sneering and bullying stuff on that special thread you guys made?

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A narcissist who likes the sound of his own voice, enjoys bullying and belittling people and who can't satisfy his wife to the point that she cheats on him? A kindred spirit?

 

1. That's highly unpleasant, personal and completely uncalled for bullying.

2. Seriously, every f**king thread.

 

Have a week off.

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