Lighthouse Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Well, we weren't the laughing stock of Europe this time, so that's something. Clean sheet for Vokins on his debut too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Could have been worse. Marked improvement, not that it could have been worse than Friday. Second half, I thought we played very well. I don't even think it was because Man City slowed down because they don't tend to do that. Positives for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Oh well. Sooner we get to the next home game the better I bloody hope we don’t go into that with a back 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Out of the league cup. At least we got to beat a 3rd division side 4-0 along the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintMB Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 I thought Danso did well in the position he was playing. Whodathought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Meh. I'll take that, especially given the first half stats. Didn't watch but I can only assume City took their foot off the gas after their third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinhard Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Better. Confidence was higher second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint97 Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Embarrassing peformance for an hour then City just relaxed. Good to see a Gao out banner in the away end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Oh well. Sooner we get to the next home game the better Why? We are much better away from home. 1-3, 1-4 and 0-9 our last 3 at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Awful reaction from the drubbing the other night. The first 45 minutes especially was dire. We are a bad side, being badly coached. Sideways, backwards passing, no pace, no passion. We never remotely looked like we believed we could get a result there and Saturday will be much of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Show a bit more intent like the last 20 minutes on Saturday please and no Ward Prowse, Couldn’t care less if you’re giving him an assist for the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Why? We are much better away from home. 1-3, 1-4 and 0-9 our last 3 at home.Pretty sure that was sarcasm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltashSaint Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 That scoreline flattered us and may deceive some into thinking we played okay. We were absolutely awful again and if it wasn't for City's profligacy in front of goal, it could have easily been six or seven. The last 20 minutes proved that City are vulnerable at the back. If only the manager had tried to win the game ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 We improved once City took it easy on us. I don't see them being as kind on Saturday. Disgraceful performance for the most part. Zero fight and zero passion. Get the next game out of the way and then we look towards Everton - Which is a must win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinhard Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 I thought Danso did well in the position he was playing. Whodathought? Danso did well today on his usual position. Should always play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 About what I expected from this game. Even before we played Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 McCarthy so much better then Gunn. Let’s hope Ralph can see it finally. Thought we looked really good near the end when we got Adams and redmond on.. some good pressing in the last twenty minutes or so also.. was a nice solo effort from boufal also unlucky not to score.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Positives: McCarthy is much better than Gunn, he actually makes saves. Thought danso had something about him too. Hojberg did a ok job as fill in left back but i’d Rather him in midfield. Negative Ralph. Against man city reserves, the conclusion I came away with is that Ralph wanted to lose. That’s the only logic for sitting inside your box, not getting close to opposition etc. embarrassing in a different sort of way from Friday. I think a league one side would have been more ambitious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Embarrassing peformance for an hour then City just relaxed. Good to see a Gao out banner in the away end Two huge issues at our club - recruitment and coaching you can’t blame the owner for either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Studio Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Valery shouldnt be in the first team squad again Romeu shouldnt either but not a lot of choice there Danso should be CB for at least until New Year McCarthy should keep his place on Saturday Still think it will be 6 or 7 on Saturday because of Stirling and DeBruyne! Give Adams a run in the team! Make sure Redmond is fit for the Everton game! Armstrong was anonymous but that may have been because of tactics Boufal the same but he did carve out a good chance - so keep in team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintMB Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 It was a throw away match. We're coming off a battering, I'm not at all surprised that the first half was all about damage control. The confidence of the team was at zero. Now it'll be slightly higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Ralph. Against man city reserves,. How would you have set up a team so low in confidence, ( let alone ability ), when playing a team including Aguero, Walker, Gabriel Jesus, Bernardo Silva, Otamendi, Foden, and Mahrez ? If that's their reserve line up I fear for Saturday's match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Two huge issues at our club - recruitment and coaching you can’t blame the owner for either... Decent recruitment requires funding. That means the owner needs to make funds available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintTex Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 That scoreline flattered us and may deceive some into thinking we played okay. We were absolutely awful again and if it wasn't for City's profligacy in front of goal, it could have easily been six or seven. The last 20 minutes proved that City are vulnerable at the back. If only the manager had tried to win the game ..... Leicester 73% | 27% Southampton Man City 77% | 23% Southampton --- Leicester 25(15) | 6(3) Southampton Man City 19(9) | 5(2) Southampton i didnt get to see the match, but i can i assume they took their foot off the gas - point diff meaningless in the Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Danso can be exciting player. Just having someone with a genuinely long throw turns a bunch of throw-ins into corners. And yes, let's give Che Adams another run. I think he's going to deliver sooner rather than later. I think they got just enough from this to come out fighting a little harder Sat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Valery's passing and crossing was atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Utter gash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinhard Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 It was a throw away match. We're coming off a battering, I'm not at all surprised that the first half was all about damage control. The confidence of the team was at zero. Now it'll be slightly higher. I agree. And the defense of MC was not so good, we can score a goal or another on Saturday. LB of us is an issue, easy to pass by, similar on the right side, but Danso could help out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Decent recruitment requires funding. That means the owner needs to make funds available. It doesn’t actually / we have wasted just south of 100m on crap so money doesn’t buy you success. Look at Shef Utd for instance etc etc ... It’s about how you select who you buy and how you select the under 23 team etc and below... It’s about a complete lack of coaching of what you have already too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Valery shouldnt be in the first team squad again Romeu shouldnt either but not a lot of choice there Danso should be CB for at least until New Year McCarthy should keep his place on Saturday Still think it will be 6 or 7 on Saturday because of Stirling and DeBruyne! Give Adams a run in the team! Make sure Redmond is fit for the Everton game! Armstrong was anonymous but that may have been because of tactics Boufal the same but he did carve out a good chance - so keep in team Agree on valery, actually starting to wonder if jwp would be a better option at left back if Cedric isn’t fit,, plus would save him taking up one of the more advanced roles since Ralph is gonna play him anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Awful reaction from the drubbing the other night. The first 45 minutes especially was dire. We are a bad side, being badly coached. Sideways, backwards passing, no pace, no passion. We never remotely looked like we believed we could get a result there and Saturday will be much of the same. I put that down to Ralph attempting to avoid another slaughter. He achieved that at least...and a goal. Damage limitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 It was a throw away match. We're coming off a battering, I'm not at all surprised that the first half was all about damage control. The confidence of the team was at zero. Now it'll be slightly higher. Exactly. There was more cohesion today. We scored. There's at least something to start to build on. Those fans moaning about RH and his selection and gameplan? What else was he supposed to do today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 It doesn’t actually / we have wasted just south of 100m on crap so money doesn’t buy you success. Look at Shef Utd for instance etc etc ... It’s about how you select who you buy and how you select the under 23 team etc and below... It’s about a complete lack of coaching of what you have already too. Are you trying to deny that decent recruitment requires funding?? You can have all the black boxes and recruiters in the world, but if you don't have the funding, it's irrelevant. I'm not denying we've wasted a huge amount of money, but that's not the topic in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Show a bit more intent like the last 20 minutes on Saturday please and no Ward Prowse, Couldn’t care less if you’re giving him an assist for the corner. Ralph's playing of Ward-Prowse for every minute of every game - where essentially it deprives us of an attacking player is the thing I cannot understand. Furthermore, having JWP bang in a hundred or so corners and free kicks and eventually having one of them headed in does not make an assist laden midfielder. Our predicament isn't all down to Ward-Prowse of course, but his "automatic selection and retention each game, irrespective of performance, really highlights how threadbare the squad is. I thought Danso did well; as did an out-of-position Hojbjerg - McCarthy should be our first choice keeper. Felt sorry for Boufal - he needs a chance to play among Redmond, Djenpo, Ings, Adams etc.....not being limited to 45 minutes with Long for company when the Manager has 8 behind the ball and is trying for damage limitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Are you trying to deny that decent recruitment requires funding?? You can have all the black boxes and recruiters in the world, but if you don't have the funding, it's irrelevant. I'm not denying we've wasted a huge amount of money, but that's not the topic in question. I disagree our **** poor recruitment is to blame here not lack of money.... Add non existent coaching and Ralph’s wish for a small squad and bingo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSaint Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 I hope for the next game he chooses more than 2 fwd thinking players. If he's going to play with 3 CB's drop Romeu and Jwp, place Hoj as the anchor midfield man and play 4 fwd thinking players, Boufal, Adams/Armstrong, Redmond and Ings, just try something new instead of this ultra defensive formation which invites teams to attack us. I'd hope Cedric will be RB and Vokins for LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Anyone know what's happened to Obefemi and N'Lundulu? Both on the fringes of the first team earlier in the season yet neither in either squad for tonight's games (first team and u23s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Well Stephens’s consolation goal won me £37 so it wasn’t all bad! I still think our best chance of getting anything from games is to attack teams. Maybe not City, but neither are we good enough to defend for 90 minutes in the hope we don’t concede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Was alright for the last 20 minutes or so, still felt like City could easily have gone up a gear or two if needed though. They won’t be anywhere near as forgiving on Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobes8 Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Decent recruitment requires funding. That means the owner needs to make funds available. Absolutely no chance with this muppet...it’s already been stated he isn’t going to invest in the playing squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Anyone know what's happened to Obefemi and N'Lundulu? Both on the fringes of the first team earlier in the season yet neither in either squad for tonight's games (first team and u23s)N'Lundulu is injured. Not for the first time in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Amusingly tonight I was told that all of the saints media team were told not to post anything on social media after Saturdays game. They expected a load of abuse so thought it was wise not to bother... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 To be fair I think Ralph was stuck between a rock & a hard place tonight. He obviously knew that going out & playing expansive football would open us up to another Leicester score so tried to to contain City & keep us in the game for as long as possible. Yes I know stats dont look good but it was so clear that confidence was shot to pieces - so many misplaced passes but.... No one expected a result .... an improved second half .... on to the next game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 First half was a very negative performance, and while I didn’t enjoy watching it any more than everyone else it would be naive to imagine that a 9-0 drubbing dies anything other than move a team back into their shell. However second half was much better, not just the last twenty mins as some have said. Positives were Alex, Danso (defensively, but not great distribution), Stephens and Redmond as sub. When you are under such pressure you need someone to hold the ball up and Long and Boufal struggled to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Is what it is damage limitation this Saturday more of the same..... Do you really think we are going to go full attacking against City with our bottlers for players.... They would destroy us on the counter.... You can't blame Ralph for trying to shut up shop.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 David Prutton 2.0 giving his shirt to a fan at the end. Bore off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 We drew the second half one all!! Not much of a consolation I know and man city had their foot off the gas and had their reserves playing but be grateful for small mercies. I think that most people would have accepted a 3 1 defeat before the kick off. We need to beat Everton a week on Saturday. Everything between friday's final whistle and then has to be designed to ensure that we can beat Everton. If tonight has restored a bit of confidence and self belief which will help on Saturday week then I am content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 I put that down to Ralph attempting to avoid another slaughter. He achieved that at least...and a goal. Damage limitation. very much so. Look at from the managers point of view your players have just taken the worst drubbing in PL history, their confidence is shot, and your next opponents are Man ****ing City, away....twice. You find out they've made 10 changes for the game, your relief is short lived when you see their entire second 11 is superior to any player you have at your disposal are you really going to send your players out to try an go toe to toe with them or are you going to try an avoid another huge battering? It wasn't a great performance but we scored a goal, kept the score respectable and maybe gained a little confidence in a game that, lets face it, most of would have down as a loss when the draw was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 We drew the second half one all!! Not much of a consolation I know and man city had their foot off the gas and had their reserves playing but be grateful for small mercies. I think that most people would have accepted a 3 1 defeat before the kick off. We need to beat Everton a week on Saturday. Everything between friday's final whistle and then has to be designed to ensure that we can beat Everton. If tonight has restored a bit of confidence and self belief which will help on Saturday week then I am content. that's one hell of a second string though anyone of them would waltz into our matchday 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 Is what it is damage limitation this Saturday more of the same..... Do you really think we are going to go full attacking against City with our bottlers for players.... They would destroy us on the counter.... You can't blame Ralph for trying to shut up shop.... its worth remembering they smashed 6-1 up there last season, in the league, after Hughes decided to play 4-4-2 and go for it.. 1McCarthy 2Cédric Soares 5Stephens 6Hoedt 21Bertrand 16Ward-Prowse Booked at 10mins Substituted for Obafemi at 73' minutes 18Lemina 23Højbjerg 7Long 22Redmond Substituted for Elyounoussi at 73' minutes 9Ings Substituted for Armstrong at 82' minutes https://www.premierleague.com/match/38414 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now