doddisalegend Posted 27 October, 2019 Share Posted 27 October, 2019 (edited) So this was in another thread thought it was worth one of its own. So players rated in each position on their performances this season based on whoscored stats. Even taking into account stats can be interpreted in different ways its pretty damning stuff. (note this was after the first nine games so doesn't include the St Mary's massacre). In the list saints players include Gunn - 3rd worst keeper in the league Yan Valery - 5th worst RB in the league Yoshida - 2nd worse CB in the league Bertrand - worst LB in the league (yes really) Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg - 5th worst central midfielder in the league Che Adams - 4th worst striker in the league https://www.givemesport.com/1515139-stats-show-the-lowest-rated-five-premier-league-players-in-every-position-so-far-this-season?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=web-view&utm_campaign=organic-social Edited 27 October, 2019 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 27 October, 2019 Share Posted 27 October, 2019 So, it’s not surprising. Teams near the bottom will generally have the worst players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 October, 2019 Share Posted 27 October, 2019 We all knew Gunn is in poor form. Utterly weird that Ralph continues to pick him Some of us knew Valery was/is way over hyped. No where near as good as some believed. Lived off a couple of decent games for too long Yoshida am surprised about given Vestergaard is in the team Adams, what was the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 27 October, 2019 Share Posted 27 October, 2019 We all knew Gunn is in poor form. Utterly weird that Ralph continues to pick him Some of us knew Valery was/is way over hyped. No where near as good as some believed. Lived off a couple of decent games for too long Yoshida am surprised about given Vestergaard is in the team Adams, what was the point? Gunn is much younger than McCarthy and isn't it the club's policy to put as many young players as possible in the team/shop window? It's probably a policy Ralph had to agree to when he was first interviewed for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 October, 2019 Author Share Posted 27 October, 2019 So, it’s not surprising. Teams near the bottom will generally have the worst players.Which came first though the chicken or the egg... Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 October, 2019 Share Posted 27 October, 2019 Gunn is much younger than McCarthy and isn't it the club's policy to put as many young players as possible in the team/shop window? It's probably a policy Ralph had to agree to when he was first interviewed for the job. If that is our policy, then we deserve to finish bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 27 October, 2019 Share Posted 27 October, 2019 Hard to give it much weight when they haven't given their methodology, though a lot of those results aren't exactly shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 27 October, 2019 Share Posted 27 October, 2019 Hard to give it much weight when they haven't given their methodology, though a lot of those results aren't exactly shocking. Vestergaard not being the worst centre back is. That definitely casts doubt on their methodology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 October, 2019 Author Share Posted 27 October, 2019 Hard to give it much weight when they haven't given their methodology, though a lot of those results aren't exactly shocking. They are using the ratings from whoscored WhoScored.com Ratings are considered to be the most accurate, respected and well-known performance indicators in the world of football. Our ratings are currently used among media giants, bookmakers and football clubs. WhoScored.com Ratings are based on a unique, comprehensive statistical algorithm, calculated live during the game. There are over 200 raw statistics included in the calculation of a player'’s/team’'s rating, weighted according to their influence within the game. Every event of importance is taken into account, with a positive or negative effect on ratings weighted in relation to its area on the pitch and its outcome. https://1xbet.whoscored.com/Explanations the full saints team stats can be found here https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/18/Show/England-Southampton and yes Vest is apparently better than Yoshida at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 October, 2019 Author Share Posted 27 October, 2019 Vestergaard not being the worst centre back is. That definitely casts doubt on their methodology. or alternatively it shows that we fans become blinkered by our own personal prejudices of players to see what we want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 28 October, 2019 Share Posted 28 October, 2019 So this was in another thread thought it was worth one of its own. So players rated in each position on their performances this season based on whoscored stats. Even taking into account stats can be interpreted in different ways its pretty damning stuff. (note this was after the first nine games so doesn't include the St Mary's massacre). In the list saints players include Gunn - 3rd worst keeper in the league Yan Valery - 5th worst RB in the league Yoshida - 2nd worse CB in the league Bertrand - worst LB in the league (yes really) Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg - 5th worst central midfielder in the league Che Adams - 4th worst striker in the league https://www.givemesport.com/1515139-stats-show-the-lowest-rated-five-premier-league-players-in-every-position-so-far-this-season?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=web-view&utm_campaign=organic-social Che Adams, 4th worst??!! Did the other 3 just score own goals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 28 October, 2019 Share Posted 28 October, 2019 Worth noting that two of the "worst" right midfielders scored hat-tricks on the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintTex Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 also worth noting... this was published on the Tuesday before the Leicester Friday debacle. god knows what the ratings are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 29 October, 2019 Share Posted 29 October, 2019 isn't it the club's policy to put as many young players as possible in the team/shop window? Nope, you’ve made that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 30 October, 2019 Share Posted 30 October, 2019 Nope, you’ve made that up. "Southampton's starting XI at Brighton had an average age of 24 years and 128 days, the youngest team in the Premier League this season." Obviously, they may have to put 1 or 2 older players in now to try to avoid relegation, which apart from selling players for profit, is the club's other main aim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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