benjii Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 Anyway, let's not get distracted from the need to pillory, publicise and confront this sham owner until he ****s off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 HTH. https://lmgtfy.com/?q=Is+the+term+chinaman+racist&s=g&iie=1I couldn't give a toss what Google says. It's not racist, certainly not in this country and anyone who tries to claim it is will most likely be heartily laughed at. And deservedly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 "Person of Colour" is one of the stupidest phrases ever. Along with "coloured person".Scope? Why do they change the name and ruin it? 'Consignia' and 'Scope'. It’s the Post Office and the Spastic Society! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 I can't be, as I have a friend wo is a Frenchman Assume you think Paki and Aussie are equivalents and ok to use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 Being upset about the state of a football club does not give one the right to use the personally abusive moniker "fat Kat" or racist term "chinaman" (another thread). You're right. If someone called me an "Englishman" I'd be furious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millbrook Saint Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 My post was quite clear. I didn't say that I consider you to be a racist. I stated that you had used racist language. When I pointed out that your choice of language was offensive, you used the popular right-wing trope "snowflake" as a means of insulting me. If you read back through our exchanges, you will note that I have remained polite and have not resorted to name-calling or insults, despite the fact that your language is offensive to my family. I have even invited you to join me and my family to discuss how racism impacts Asian people living in the UK, whereas you've been sarcastic, unnecessarily rude and personally abusive. There's nothing wrong with admitting that you made a mistake, learning from it, and endeavouring not to make the same error in future. In fact, that attitude is highly commendable, but increasingly rare these days. Ah well, all the best Crab Lungs. Excuse me, the only person here who's made a mistake is you, feel free to spend your life deliberately looking to be offended as much as possible. No one here has made any racist slurs, by accident or otherwise. What I suggest is you you remove yourself from this board. go find somewhere to discuss how offended you are by everything and leave us to discuss how this skint Chinaman is ruing our club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 Assume you think Paki and Aussie are equivalents and ok to use? Blimey! Is Aussie offensive now? It`s difficult to keep up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 Excuse me, the only person here who's made a mistake is you, feel free to spend your life deliberately looking to be offended as much as possible. No one here has made any racist slurs, by accident or otherwise. What I suggest is you you remove yourself from this board. go find somewhere to discuss how offended you are by everything and leave us to discuss how this skint Chinaman is ruing our clubYep seems like a pretty unanimous reaction. This miserly Chinaman is sinking the club through his lack of interest. I don't care who the nationality of the next owner is. If he's a rich and benevolent Chinaman he would be loved by all no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 I don't know about other people but I hold Kat more responsible for our rapid decline than gao, she had no interest in football from the very beginning & it showed! She also said she wanted to keep her father's legacy going but invested zero in the squad, She saw an opportunity to sell to gao so we can't blame gao for taking that opportunity, she really didn't do any due diligence whatsoever when she sold to gao she no longer cared who she sold it to just wanted the cash back! Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk I'm with you, and wasn't being wholly serious, although...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 This has to happen. I'm in the States but I will be happy to help out in any way possible if someone gets this going. It can only really happen if someone is willing to pay him £260m+ for the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morse Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 We could crowd fund legal action against the FA. It is they who didn't follow their own rules when passing Gao a 'fir and proper' person to own a football club, on the second time of asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 It can only really happen if someone is willing to pay him £260m+ for the club The club will be worth nowhere near that figure in the Championship next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 We could crowd fund legal action against the FA. It is they who didn't follow their own rules when passing Gao a 'fir and proper' person to own a football club, on the second time of asking. What evidence do you have for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 The club will be worth nowhere near that figure in the Championship next season. I know, but this thread was about a new owner now... not next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Worm Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 He is Chinese, i wonder how he would feel about Hong Kong protests at St Mary's as a means to get him to leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 He is Chinese, i wonder how he would feel about Hong Kong protests at St Mary's as a means to get him to leave The only way he can leave is for someone to buy him out. Protests would not work and certainly not ones like those you are suggesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 In answer to JRM's question, yes, the term "chinaman" IS racist. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinaman_(term) Crab Lungs, you could have made your point without using the pejorative, the fact that that you chose to include it makes your intent quite clear. I don't want to be offended. But you clearly want to offend me for calling you out, which is why you have resorted to name calling. My wife is Chinese. My kids are mixed race. My nephew was called a "chinaman" at work last week by an angry customer. The word was used as a racist insult. The lad is 22 and was really upset. Does that make him a "snowflake" too? I'm not your pal, but I am perfectly happy for you to meet my family and learn first hand how hurtful racist abuse can be, and how it can impact a young person's mental health. WTAF? Calling a Chinaman, a ”Chinaman” is not racist you moron. Not anymore than calling a man from India an Indian. FFS. Unbelievable. In this country, people are looking to take offence from anything. Man up princess. You can say anything in a derogatory tone but it doesn’t make it racist, per se. Just a strange & bizarre attempt to create a qualifier to racism which it is clearly not. Pointless debate anyway. Ralph so needs a decent number 2. Couldn’t quite believe that Kelvin Davis is first team coach. What has he got to offer? We need an overhaul but everyone knew about the defence ages back. In fact, I got shot down for suggesting we needed new defenders & will be low in the table because apparently we have a top class, top 10 team. Some people aren't unnecessarily negative, some people are just realistic and don’t like living in a deluded bubble. Learn the lesson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 I’m not trying to be a **** and continue this on but I’ve never been levelled as a racist before, I’m quite stunned. I abhor racism. That said, I’m not going to apologise for using the term ‘potless chinaman’ because that is exactly what I meant; a Chinese man with no discernible funds and a dubious financial background. That’s what I meant. I’m not slurring him because he’s from China. I’m not generalising billions of people. What exactly is the different between this and calling someone a skint Scot? Or broke Bulgarian? Maybe in other countries it’s been used a slur - did I mean it in a derogatory sense? Nope. I’m dumbfounded, honestly. You're not being racist, but when "chinaman" is included in a negative description of someone, the two can get intertwined. I doubt anyone would be offended if I said my neighbour is a chinaman who cooks a fantastic chow mein. I suggest "he's potless ****ing arsehole" as being less likely to offend. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 26 October, 2019 Share Posted 26 October, 2019 Assume you think Paki and Aussie are equivalents and ok to use? Well I actually know what Paki means, as well as being more than aware of it commonly being used as a racial slur. Paki - pure ; stan - land (of). Pakistan = Land of the Pure. But I also take into account intent. Applying any accusations of racism to Aussie is beyond banal and not even worth going any further with. Englishman, Chinaman, Frenchman, Dutchman, German, Scotsman, Ulsterman are to me not derogatory. If they are to you, then that's your wont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 27 October, 2019 Share Posted 27 October, 2019 We could crowd fund legal action against the FA. It is they who didn't follow their own rules when passing Gao a 'fir and proper' person to own a football club, on the second time of asking. They followed the rules at the time, then changed them afterwards to stop anyone like him taking over in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fookwit Posted 9 November, 2019 Share Posted 9 November, 2019 Time for some fan action I think Club has no direction, no ambition, no assistant manager, no director of football, no left back back up, no decent centre half and no investment in team to survive in the top flight. The owner must be asset stripping the club to sell? Time for some fan protests against the board!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 10 November, 2019 Share Posted 10 November, 2019 Calling Bats and trollsienberg to the thread for a campaign update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 11 November, 2019 Share Posted 11 November, 2019 You're right. If someone called me an "Englishman" I'd be furious. You might laugh, but just back from Canada and they are not allowed to call the native Indians, Indians - instead referred to as "First Nation Citizens". Honestly, the world's gone daft, and I am Indian (as in have Asian Indian origins). Irony of ironies in Ireland I am "English scum" in the nicest possible way of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 11 November, 2019 Share Posted 11 November, 2019 Best protest against Gao would be Tibet flags like the French club did recently, would be embarrassing for Gao to have to explain that to his govt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 11 November, 2019 Share Posted 11 November, 2019 Best protest against Gao would be Tibet flags like the French club did recently, would be embarrassing for Gao to have to explain that to his govt. Indeed. And if it's too much of a ball-ache to get physical flags into the ground we can still bombard Saints Twitter with images of it. Every post swamped with Tibet flags and #GaoOut #Gaoingdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 11 November, 2019 Share Posted 11 November, 2019 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50369413 Another sucker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 11 November, 2019 Share Posted 11 November, 2019 Indeed. And if it's too much of a ball-ache to get physical flags into the ground we can still bombard Saints Twitter with images of it. Every post swamped with Tibet flags and #GaoOut #Gaoingdown https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/supchina.com/2019/10/06/french-lyon-fans-angry-at-chinese-viewers-free-tibet-flag/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 12 November, 2019 Share Posted 12 November, 2019 I think our next home game is live on Sky if some are intent on making some kind of protest (if enough bother to go!). Saturday teatime kick-off, a day on the lash before, could be a bit spikey. I'm predicting numerous arrests and plenty of banning orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 12 November, 2019 Share Posted 12 November, 2019 You might laugh, but just back from Canada and they are not allowed to call the native Indians, Indians - instead referred to as "First Nation Citizens". Honestly, the world's gone daft, and I am Indian (as in have Asian Indian origins). Irony of ironies in Ireland I am "English scum" in the nicest possible way of course! Isn't that because they are not Indians, they are not from India. You've answered the point in your brackets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 12 November, 2019 Share Posted 12 November, 2019 You're right. If someone called me an "Englishman" I'd be furious. Depends, if it was preceded by an epithet it would characterise a race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 12 November, 2019 Share Posted 12 November, 2019 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50369413 Another sucker? Explain please. 4000 steel workers and 20000 supply chain workers seem pretty happy about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 12 November, 2019 Share Posted 12 November, 2019 Time for some fan action I think The owner must be asset stripping the club to sell? What? We don't have any assets to sell. Think again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 12 November, 2019 Share Posted 12 November, 2019 Explain please. 4000 steel workers and 20000 supply chain workers seem pretty happy about it. Well, no one knows anything about that company or its accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 12 November, 2019 Share Posted 12 November, 2019 You might laugh, but just back from Canada and they are not allowed to call the native Indians, Indians - instead referred to as "First Nation Citizens". Honestly, the world's gone daft, and I am Indian (as in have Asian Indian origins). Irony of ironies in Ireland I am "English scum" in the nicest possible way of course! I've read this post multie times and can't fathom what you're blithering on about. They don't like to be called Indians because, more than anything, it's factually incorrect. The same way you would probably correct someone if you were called Argentinian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 November, 2019 Share Posted 12 November, 2019 I didnt realise how many bumpkins and yokels we had on this place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 12 November, 2019 Share Posted 12 November, 2019 I didnt realise how many bumpkins and yokels we had on this place. Its not all bad, they can provide the pitchforks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom & Gerry Posted 12 November, 2019 Share Posted 12 November, 2019 Lets get rid of Puel - Things will be so much better Lets get rid of Pelligrino - Things will be so much better Lets get rid of Hughes - Things will be so much better Lets get rid of Reed - Things will be so much better Lets get rid of Krueger - Things will be so much better Lets get rid of Wilson - Things will be so much better Lets get rid of Gao - Oh sh*t we have no club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom & Gerry Posted 12 November, 2019 Share Posted 12 November, 2019 Lets get rid of Puel - Things will be so much better Lets get rid of Pelligrino - Things will be so much better Lets get rid of Hughes - Things will be so much better Lets get rid of Reed - Things will be so much better Lets get rid of Krueger - Things will be so much better Lets get rid of Wilson - Things will be so much better Lets get rid of Gao - Oh sh*t we have no club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 November, 2019 Share Posted 12 November, 2019 Lets get rid of Puel - Things will be so much better Lets get rid of Pelligrino - Things will be so much better Lets get rid of Hughes - Things will be so much better Lets get rid of Reed - Things will be so much better Lets get rid of Krueger - Things will be so much better Lets get rid of Wilson - Things will be so much better Lets get rid of Gao - Oh sh*t we have no club Let’s get rid of Eric Black - things will be so much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 13 November, 2019 Share Posted 13 November, 2019 I've read this post multie times and can't fathom what you're blithering on about. They don't like to be called Indians because, more than anything, it's factually incorrect. The same way you would probably correct someone if you were called Argentinian. Here in California they call themselves Indians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 22 November, 2019 Share Posted 22 November, 2019 https://apple.news/ASa2zY-e1SF2Z8QONXpDw_A Not seen this posted elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 22 November, 2019 Share Posted 22 November, 2019 I didnt realise how many bumpkins and yokels we had on this place. That is a racist slur if ever there was one. Best not set foot out this way any time soon or yer'll be on the ducking stool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 22 November, 2019 Share Posted 22 November, 2019 If reports are to be believed it should be easy to get Mr Gao out, just have a whip round in the Northam next week and give him a cheque for £200m. Two weeks of beer money should do the trick lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 22 November, 2019 Share Posted 22 November, 2019 £200M over 30,000 fans works out at under £7000 each. Who's up for it? We give Gao his money back, and we own the club to boot!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 22 November, 2019 Share Posted 22 November, 2019 If, as the Independent suggests, Gao has been open to offers for the club for the past 6 months, protests aren't going to help him sell it. Gao wants out but no new owner is going to want in at a relegation-threatened club in turmoil with the fans up in arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 22 November, 2019 Share Posted 22 November, 2019 If, as the Independent suggests, Gao has been open to offers for the club for the past 6 months, protests aren't going to help him sell it. Gao wants out but no new owner is going to want in at a relegation-threatened club in turmoil with the fans up in arms. Prospective buyers are not going to care 1% about the fans. It's a risky investment which means Gao might be willing to sell at a knock down price and someone might be willing to buy. Both on the assumption that we will get relegated anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 22 November, 2019 Share Posted 22 November, 2019 £200M over 30,000 fans works out at under £7000 each. Who's up for it? We give Gao his money back, and we own the club to boot!!!! But if there are going to be 30,000 owners, how are we going to slag all of them off every week on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle04 Posted 22 November, 2019 Share Posted 22 November, 2019 But if there are going to be 30,000 owners, how are we going to slag all of them off every week on here? ....... the board meetings would have to be held in the stadium .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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