Chez Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Or a “JWP says we need to do the little things better”. the problem is every single player we have in the squad does those little things worse than the players we used to have here five years ago. First touches are worse, body positions, pace, anticipation, strength...the list goes on and now to add to that collectively the team's confidence looks shot too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Charlie Austin is bound to post something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 If Ralph goes the whole backroom team need to go, Davis, Watson, the lot. I love Kelv but we need to start afresh. Hopefully they’d bring a bloody good GK coach in too. Its been changed back now but someone changed the Wikipedia page for Angus Gunn to say that he currently plays as a turnstile for Southampton FC - cheered me right up laughing at that. Would Kelvin Davis get a job at any other Prem or Championship club? He would not. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 I genuinely resent the club. Can't stand the squad, the coaching staff, the foundation, the academy. It's rotten, we're just a company with a trade mark. Hasn't felt like a football club for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 I genuinely resent the club. Can't stand the squad, the coaching staff, the foundation, the academy. It's rotten, we're just a company with a trade mark. Hasn't felt like a football club for years. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobes8 Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 The worse performance I’ve I’ve witnessed as a saints fan but the thing was I’m not overly surprised, it’s been coming. The main issues are as follows; 1. Tonight demonstrated just how immobile our midfield 3 are. No pace, no creativity and no ability to beat a player. How on earth you can allow lemina to leave and leave us with that it unforgivable. 2. Valery gave the worst display by a full back since Patrick colleter at Newcastle in 97/98. He’s got something but he’s not being coached properly. 3. Back room staff. Ralph didn’t get any support on the touch line tonight. He cut a lonely and lost figure. 4. I feel Ralph has probably lost the dressing room. His team decisions are baffling and continuing with Gunn is bizarre. 5. THE MAIN issues is GAO. Whilst he is there we are going absolutely nowhere. No money, no plan and he needs to go. Is Ralph goes I don’t think any manager is capable of keeping the worst squad of players since the 2007/8 squad. I’d have Adkins back, would galvanise the fan base. But just a shambles from top to bottom. We lost 9-0 to Leicester, a good team but not a Man City or Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 I genuinely resent the club. Can't stand the squad, the coaching staff, the foundation, the academy. It's rotten, we're just a company with a trade mark. Hasn't felt like a football club for years. Do go on. Anything Specific? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Have to admit I was ****ing raging at the replays of the goals, looked like a coaching video on how not to defend. Jumping under balls, playing across own box, getting the wrong side of a man, ballwatching, giving up, not putting it into row Z when you don’t know what’s around you, parrying the ball back into play...the list goes on. Next game. Rom as captain, McC in goal, no JWP, no Vestergaard. Get Danso, Armstrong in. Change it the **** up ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 25 October, 2019 Author Share Posted 25 October, 2019 In the last four home league games we've conceded as many as Puel's team scored all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 I've slowly been losing my desire to go to games, and in some ways hope we go down this season. It will mean that there is a good time to have a clean break from the club while hopefully it sorts itself out. But Monk, aren't all clubs in PL and a few om Champ just companies with trade marks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 I've slowly been losing my desire to go to games, and in some ways hope we go down this season. It will mean that there is a good time to have a clean break from the club while hopefully it sorts itself out. But Monk, aren't all clubs in PL and a few om Champ just companies with trade marks? The Southampton Way? Just a load of bland UEFA A licence tossers that look and dress the same trying to reinvent the wheel with buzzwords but actually not having any idea of how a playing identify manifests itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 PEH said in his interview after the match, there is things he wants to say but will get in trouble tomorrow if he says them. Dressing room disharmony it seems. Why don’t they say it!! Has to be dressing room unrest Either that, or an fall out with Ralph. Either way, might be best if he blurts it out, lances the boil, and the club can move on. Trouble is that yet again we can't move the players on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLOTH EARS Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 On the positive side it really can't get worse than that. Right? What with Man City up next.....Don't bet on it pal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 By my reckoning we have taken 45 points from our last 48 home PL games . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 So the official site has the headline, “ Hasenhüttl: I take full responsibility.” Yes he’s partly to blame but they’ve really chucked him under the bus with that headline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Can't believe people actually want Ralph to go. He is the least of our problems. The players are absolutly at fault and should hold their heads in shame! A mass clear out is truly needed...Let's get this straight no one is saying he is 100% to blame he has hands tied but the fact remains that he has zero tactical nous, doesn't know his best team, continues to play players out of position! Continues to make insane subs & Has totally lost interest in the club... There's only one place you can go from there! Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 I know it's early in the season but u can't see how a team can lose like that and then recover. Its the trapdoor for us this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Kat you *****. Sold us down the river. “Next level” hey you fat ****. Get the **** outta my club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Never felt so disconnected to footballers as in the last few years. They’ll have probably forgotten about this following a drive home to their mansions in their lambos. You wouldn’t have seen Jimmy Case, Barry Horne or Glenn Cockerill giving up like that. This lot couldn’t give a **** about the fans or the club, just their haircuts, cars, tattoos and bank balances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 The Southampton Way? Just a load of bland UEFA A licence tossers that look and dress the same trying to reinvent the wheel with buzzwords but actually not having any idea of how a playing identify manifests itself. Ah, the Southampton Way. Is that still going on? Disregarded that ****** as soon as it came out of Ralph's mouth. So yes I get that. As for the rest, I will bow to your more intimate knowledge of what goes on behind the scenes. But I guess we'll get the usual platitudes and nothing will change. Not sure having a seemingly anonymous owner helps. Maybe that is doing him a disservice, but no one seems to be running the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 We're the Huddersfield/Fulham of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 It's not so much the quality, there is certainly individual quality in the group – but it's the characters in the group. Their personalities, their attitudes, their psych setup - they're all as bad as each other. Not strong enough, not focused enough, too meek, not leaders and unfortunately proven losers. Sooner rather than later the curtain is coming down, we're just delaying the inevitable to be honest. I'd get rid of at least 9 of them and just invest again, well i say invest...not that we will. I agree, the players have made us a laughing stock, utter shambles and they'll be associated with the record for a long time. They put no effort in at all and should be fined by the club 2 weeks wages donated to charity for bringing the club into disrepute. Club is rotten from the top being owned by a Chinese mafia money launderer it's no wonder everything is falling apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Players are weak , feeble, with no desire. This is the culmination of Les Reed's tenure at the club which has been going down the sh!tshoot since Koeman left. Poor appointments and poor recruitment. Have to feel sorry for Ralph having to cope with this squad. He probably wanted Augustin, but Les's protege Wilson, brings in Che Adams, now a bench warmer. CB, three years without a decent recruit. That said, some of RH's selections are baffling to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint93 Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Obviously an early red doesn’t help but 9-0 at home is an absolute disgrace. We are the laughing stock of the football world let alone England tonight and this will still be takes about in 20 years. Hope the players are disgraced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 We're the Huddersfield/Fulham of this season. more like a Sunderland...close to relegation for several years and then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintZamboni Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 The main concern has to be that teams who get humped like that are always in deep decline. They never bounce back and finish mid table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Obviously an early red doesn’t help but 9-0 at home is an absolute disgrace. We are the laughing stock of the football world let alone England tonight and this will still be takes about in 20 years. Hope the players are disgraced.Watch someone lose 10-0 tomorrow [emoji108] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Best decision I made was not to go tonight. The impact on goal difference of this result is equal to another lost point. The only escape from relegation is to spend in January on several established players but would anyone with ambition come here? Relegation looks certain and after just fluking avoidance in recent years it’s not even a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 There is something wrong here under the surface, where this is smoke there is fire. Asst coaches leaving, players unhappy and leaving, now even core players like PEH hinting. Maybe Ralph's management style is rubbing thin? At first people were putting up with him, but over time he wore them out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Over the years I have been described as a happy clapper and I accept that I have always tried to find a level of optimism. Tonight I am a beyond being embarrassed. WTF is going on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyman Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 The die hard fans were great tonight , and at times the atmosphere and chants were top notch. The ‘Man City we’re coming for you’ chant was probably the best. When faced with disaster you can either turn your back or stick with it and show some pride in your club. i agree we are total sh*t at the moment and we look nailed on to go down, but we’ve been here before and will be here again, that’s the price you pay for supporting the Saints, but even after a night like tonight i would ‘t swap us for any other team. I don’t even subscribe to the opinion that the players arent trying , it is just that they as individuals and as a team are nowhere near good enough. Clutching at straws , my only consolation is that we can’t get any worse , but then i look at our next 2 games and i wouldn’t put it past us to plumb even greater depths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Best decision I made was not to go tonight. The impact on goal difference of this result is equal to another lost point. The only escape from relegation is to spend in January on several established players but would anyone with ambition come here? Relegation looks certain and after just fluking avoidance in recent years it’s not even a surprise. Spending money in January that we don’t have seems nutty to me. Even bigger problems if we went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Can’t help but think of Cedric every time I read about unrest. Him and Redders. Think Ralph will walk. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 (edited) I honestly would prefer to have it laid out now, in return for relegaton. Don't roll out lines like "need to take the positives" or "learn what tonight". Pierre, say it. If you're removed from the captaincy or transfer-listed, the fans will support you. Just tell us what the problem is - be it player disharmony, be it domineering manager, be it hopeless coaching, be it lack of funds to invest, be it player power, be it no leadership from the directors/chairman. Just tell us the truth. You're losing the support of the fans. We suspected there was an issue, now PEH has confirmed it. So let's hear it, then discuss how to resolve it. Edited 25 October, 2019 by the saint in winchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Can’t help but think of Cedric every time I read about unrest. Him and Redders. Think Ralph will walk. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Absolutely he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 HI I"M ROBBIE SAVAGE!!! I"VE HAD TOO LISTEN TO YOU ****S SLAG ME OFF FOR A FEW MONHS!! ANY CHANCE OF AN APOLOGY???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Please Gao, go and do one. This club was bad enough before you turned up but my god you have taken us to new depths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Don’t think that has sunk in yet. Should have known after it took 2 hours rather than 1 to drive down and then getting drowned walking in that it wasn’t going to be a good night. No words at the moment for the performance. Will console myself with a positive. Southampton till I die sums up the excellent atmosphere in the 2nd half. In a few years many of these frauds will have gone but we’ll still be here. I’m looking forward to the players and management foregoing their wages and refunding everyone who endured that tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitz Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Anyone’s insurance bets come in? I captained Vardy in my Fantasy team, if that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Watch someone lose 10-0 tomorrow [emoji108] or next week (twice) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Can someone please elaborate on what Hojbjerg said that alluded to a specific problem? I've been out tonight (was spared the pain of watching) and didn’t see the interview. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Trying to find a positive tonight. We still have time to put things right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Can't believe people actually want Ralph to go. He is the least of our problems. The players are absolutly at fault and should hold their heads in shame! A mass clear out is truly needed... He is not the least of our problems, he is one of the biggest. So clear now that he has no idea about the defensive side of things, crystal clear that Rohl was a major player and a huge loss. Even if Ralph wasn't the biggest problem before tonight, he is finished, looked a totally broken man in post match interview. He will surely walk. But we also need to get rid of Gao, Liebherr, Watson and Davis (at least). A few players as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 How can anyone market this product,honesty how can you ,it's complete and utter rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityRanger Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 We’ve made history tonight. One of the worst top level home performances in English football history. We’ll be known for this to the average fan more than any other thing we’ve done in last 10 years. And still I’ve seen hardly any calls for managers head. Incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Ralph gets one chance. One. The following needs to happen: 1> No more 5-4-1 at home 2> McCarthy in for Gunn for the rest of the season 3> Take captaincy off PEH, bench PEH 4> No more JWP, Vestergard, Valery - all to be moved on in January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Clubs been ducked for years. Hopefully this is our rock bottom, but doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 There is something wrong here under the surface, where this is smoke there is fire. Asst coaches leaving, players unhappy and leaving, now even core players like PEH hinting. Maybe Ralph's management style is rubbing thin? At first people were putting up with him, but over time he wore them out? I agree but things havnt been right for a couple of seasons. Getting another manager is just papering over one of the many cracks. Something is seriously wrong all the way through the club . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Can someone please elaborate on what Hojbjerg said that alluded to a specific problem? I've been out tonight (was spared the pain of watching) and didn’t see the interview. Cheers. I've taken this from an earlier post: PEH said in his interview after the match, there is things he wants to say but will get in trouble tomorrow if he says them. Dressing room disharmony it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Positives? Hang on, I think I've found one; Memberships available, 'only' £35. Whoever scheduled that advert in the 89th minute, in front of rows of empty plastic, needs either a medal or a P45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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