the saint in winchester Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 After 50 years of being a casual fan, going down maybe to half a dozen games a season, I took the plunge and bought a season ticket this year. Wrong decision. Probably won't go again, save the £10 train fare each game. Whatever PEH is alluding to (above), just say it, take the fine, and get the fans support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 So, they all earnt tonight what most on here earn in a year.....sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 ‘We’re getting the Southampton perspective after the break’ I can hardly wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 At some point, friends, a sense of humour has to kick in. And after we've stopped laughing/crying into our beer, the crumbs of consolation are: ...ok, I can't really think of any. Except that this WILL lead to some kind of response. Has to. Personally, I think there is plenty of quality at the club to be mid-table prem league side. But we have a real problem for some reason managing psychology. Once we're a goal or two down, heads drop and things can quickly get worse. I'm not yet ready to call for Ralph to go. But in the next couple of weeks we will see what he and the players are made of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 If you have an owner who's only ambition is to stay in the premier league then the club will nosedive. You've got to have ambition and send a positive vibe - even if you don't hit your targets - otherwise pessimism and lethargy set in and you go backwards. At the moment we look good for the drop, 4 seasons of dross has turned us from an exciting team to one that looks like it's punching above it's weight in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 I'd just like to bump this gem from the build up thread That is all. I said something in the build up thread which I meant as a humourous observation on the catastrophising often seen in pre-match threads. But it gone done turn out to be true :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentry Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 The ONLY goodthing from that match was the fans. I live away but proud of those who were cold, wet, watching that cr*p yet still singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Why don’t they say it!! Has to be dressing room unrestThing is they can either come out and give the reason why performances are so **** or accept us thinking that they're just the worst squad of players we've had in the premier league. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Worst game ive seen in over 50 years supporting Saints we played worse than the 8-0 at goodison and the 7-0 At Ellend rd from the 70s and the more recent 7-1 s at Anfield and Goodison A complete gutless sell out none of those players deserves to where the shirt never mind collect their wages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 At some point, friends, a sense of humour has to kick in. And after we've stopped laughing/crying into our beer, the crumbs of consolation are: ...ok, I can't really think of any. Except that this WILL lead to some kind of response. Has to. Personally, I think there is plenty of quality at the club to be mid-table prem league side. But we have a real problem for some reason managing psychology. Once we're a goal or two down, heads drop and things can quickly get worse. I'm not yet ready to call for Ralph to go. But in the next couple of weeks we will see what he and the players are made of. It's not so much the quality, there is certainly individual quality in the group – but it's the characters in the group. Their personalities, their attitudes, their psych setup - they're all as bad as each other. Not strong enough, not focused enough, too meek, not leaders and unfortunately proven losers. Sooner rather than later the curtain is coming down, we're just delaying the inevitable to be honest. I'd get rid of at least 9 of them and just invest again, well i say invest...not that we will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 MANCHESTER CITY NEXT...twice. I don’t think we’ve even hit rock bottom yet... Build up threads will be fun. For the cup game just try something different please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 (edited) The signs and causes of dressing room disharmony: Players who are getting worse with each game. CHECK Players who take ages to come back from relatively minor injuries. CHECK Payers being played out of position. CHECK General cluelessness about the tactics (e.g., zonal marking) CHECK A "better sideways or back" passing mentality. CHECK Tactical chopping and changing. CHECK Players who nobody - bar the manager - thinks should be on the pitch. CHECK Assistant coaches who seem to be there just to put out the cones. CHECK Players who look like they'd rather be having an enema than playing. CHECK No guts, no character. CHECK Losing at home by a sh*tload. CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK Edited 25 October, 2019 by CanadaSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 As much as i want to defend Ralph, theres no chance Hughes, Pellegrino or Puel would have lost that 9-0. F***ing NINE goals. The lack of effort and organisation was pathetic. Even at the bottom rung of league 1, I've never been this embarassed to be a saints fan. Speechless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder freak Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 I wonder how many people will resign their jobs after that. Ralph and Martin, for a start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Geoff Shreeves just posed some of the sh1ttest questions ever asked in a post match interview. Surprised Ralph didn’t punch him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Not sure whether to laugh or cry. This has been brewing for a few seasons now, we are in such a mess but it stems from Les Reed. As I've mentioned a few times, I'd bring in Lee Johnson from Bristol City now to start preparing for the Championship. Relegation might be the only way we will get rid of these players. Sent from my CLT-L09 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersubpuckett Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 didn't charlie nicholas hint at problems and 'internal goings on' recently? the extent to which the players switched off suggests something is very wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so22saint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Almost the worst part of tonight is I find myself agreeing with Jamie Carragher :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 I deserve a medal. On the train home and I stayed until the final whistle.. I've supported Saints 50+ years and aaaaaargghhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 I deserve a medal. On the train home and I stayed until the final whistle.. I've supported Saints 50+ years and aaaaaargghhh! You deserve something! I think you're mad! They didn't deserve any support in that 2nd half, so many left at HT (including myself). Never done that before, but sometimes you just need to make a stand and stop accepting utter ****e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Ralph broken. At least he didn't make excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 The signs and causes of dressing room disharmony: Players who are getting worse with each game. CHECK Players who take ages to come back from relatively minor injuries. CHECK Payers being played out of position. CHECK General cluelessness about the tactics (e.g., zonal marking) CHECK A "better sideways or back" passing mentality. CHECK Tactical chopping and changing. CHECK Players who nobody - bar the manager - thinks should be on the pitch. CHECK Assistant coaches who seem to be there just to put out the cones. CHECK Players who look like they'd rather be having an enema than playing. CHECK No guts, no character. CHECK Losing at home by a sh*tload. CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK This post - Check ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Left when the 3rd went in. Was home before the second half kicked off. Didn't watch any more, there was no need. It was obvious when the second went in that it would be a rout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 25 October, 2019 Author Share Posted 25 October, 2019 I said something in the build up thread which I meant as a humourous observation on the catastrophising often seen in pre-match threads. But it gone done turn out to be true :-( There was no stopping Vardes and Maddiniho tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Ralph broken. At least he didn't make excuses.& it took 9-0 for him not to come out with the usual excuses! Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 But we had such a good week of practice? with top bants and maximum smiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 It's not so much the quality, there is certainly individual quality in the group – but it's the characters in the group. Their personalities, their attitudes, their psych setup - they're all as bad as each other. Not strong enough, not focused enough, too meek, not leaders and unfortunately proven losers. Sooner rather than later the curtain is coming down, we're just delaying the inevitable to be honest. I'd get rid of at least 9 of them and just invest again, well i say invest...not that we will. There’s no money to invest. You have hit the nail on the head when it comes to character. They are a weak bunch. Not great players and certainly not the mid table team some think we are because even that takes players with a good mentality as well as technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder freak Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Left the pub and went back to my armchair after Bertrand sent off. I’m too old for this. Something inside me has died. Funeral on Monday. Literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Round up all the players, coaching staff, owners, executives etc. Get In Greta Thunberg to tear them a new one. “SHAME ON YOU!”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPY Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 So, what positives can we take? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Leicester’s biggest league win is 10-0 v Portsmouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Is all ok. Come Monday the media team will put a video out of us beating the traffic cones 3-2 after extra time and everything will be rosy again Or a “JWP says we need to do the little things better”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Redders said it was ONE of the worst performances since he joined Saints. At least I have had one positive result tonight; I am 4-0 up against the rats in my chicken run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 25 October, 2019 Author Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Redders said it was ONE of the worst performances since he joined Saints. At least I have had one positive result tonight; I am 4-0 up against the rats in my chicken run. Interesting. Which method are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Leicester’s biggest league win is 10-0 v Portsmouth Thanks mate - I needed that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Worst game ive seen in over 50 years supporting Saints we played worse than the 8-0 at goodison and the 7-0 At Ellend rd from the 70s and the more recent 7-1 s at Anfield and Goodison A complete gutless sell out none of those players deserves to where the shirt never mind collect their wages! Totally agree I remember the 8-0 Everton as a kid followed by the 5-2 Man U the next weekend was distraught then this just seems worst at the mo! Sure I get over it !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Just back. No comment, save for what might be an understatement in that I think there seems to be a problem at the club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Interesting. Which method are you using? Live traps, in this case baited with eggshell, then let the dogs have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 I bought tickets to see The Rails at The Railway Inn in Winchester tonight, and was very annoyed when the Leicester game was moved......Thank God that I went to Winchester!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 When was the last game where we didn't get a single yellow card ? That’s a telling stat. They didn’t give a ****. Leicester we’re blocking shots at 6-0 up. It’s not the scoreline that angers me as much as them just utterly giving up. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 25 October, 2019 Author Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Live traps, in this case baited with eggshell, then let the dogs have them. May I suggest landmines, worked a treat in my garden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 And if the club sends one of their ****ing ridiculous post match emails to ST holders thanking them for our support, I'll be ****ed off. The support tonight when 6 or 7 down was good. It wasn't towards the players/club, it was us supporters trying to retain a bit of pride when quite clearly the players couldn't give two ****s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 So Charlie Austin said there’s bother at the club internally and PEH has alluded too it as well. I wish PEH had said it got it out in the open and taken the fine - he would at least got the fans support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 And if the club sends one of their ****ing ridiculous post match emails to ST holders thanking them for our support, I'll be ****ed off. The support tonight when 6 or 7 down was good. It wasn't towards the players/club, it was us supporters trying to retain a bit of pride when quite clearly the players couldn't give two ****s. The first thing they should send out is a ****ing refund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 If Ralph goes the whole backroom team need to go, Davis, Watson, the lot. I love Kelv but we need to start afresh. Hopefully they’d bring a bloody good GK coach in too. Its been changed back now but someone changed the Wikipedia page for Angus Gunn to say that he currently plays as a turnstile for Southampton FC - cheered me right up laughing at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 How was Dave on Radio Solent after that shambles then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portugalsaint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Just come in from a meal out with friends and had to look twice at the score. What is going on?. I remember being at St Mary’s when we beat Sunderland 8-0. It became embarrassing even for us as the goals went in so easily. I can’t imagine how dismal it must have been to be at the ground tonight with the weather and the score. Why are they falling apart? What is happening behind the scenes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 3 fouls conceded tonight tells you all you need to know about these players. No heart No desire No pride Sent from my SM-A320FL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 PEH said in his interview after the match, there is things he wants to say but will get in trouble tomorrow if he says them. Dressing room disharmony it seems. What a gutless ****. Take the defeat like a man! Regardless of the manager, no professional should have put in such a powderpuff, lazy, inept, gutless, pathetic display as the Saints players did tonight. They couldn’t give a chuff about Saints. ****s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish_Saints Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Can't believe people actually want Ralph to go. He is the least of our problems. The players are absolutly at fault and should hold their heads in shame! A mass clear out is truly needed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 25 October, 2019 Share Posted 25 October, 2019 Fans were good. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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