JustinSFC Posted 19 April, 2021 Share Posted 19 April, 2021 Durham really laying into Hasenhuttl saying us being this bad and playing that badly yesterday is a sackable offence. Darren Gough reckons we'll go down next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 19 April, 2021 Share Posted 19 April, 2021 11 minutes ago, JustinSFC said: Durham really laying into Hasenhuttl saying us being this bad and playing that badly yesterday is a sackable offence. Darren Gough reckons we'll go down next season. I reckon he could be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 19 April, 2021 Share Posted 19 April, 2021 I'm willing to give him until christmas. He's been making a few comments lately about having a bit of a trasfer kitty this summer, something he hasn't had so far, and to be honest if we sack him who could we realistically replace him with who could do any better with this squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 19 April, 2021 Share Posted 19 April, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, JustinSFC said: Durham really laying into Hasenhuttl saying us being this bad and playing that badly yesterday is a sackable offence. Darren Gough reckons we'll go down next season. 🤣🤣 Our situation aside, if this loon thinks a manager should be sacked after their team plays badly then we would have a helluva a lot sackings. Talk Sport, the TV equivalent of the daily sport newspaper all bullshit and tits. Edited 19 April, 2021 by Chapel End Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinSFC Posted 19 April, 2021 Share Posted 19 April, 2021 14 minutes ago, Chapel End said: 🤣🤣 Our situation aside, if this loon thinks a manager should be sacked after their team plays badly then we would have a helluva a lot sackings. Talk Sport, the TV equivalent of the daily sport newspaper all bullshit and tits. He's reactionist radio bloke who winds people up, but I couldn't disagree with him on any of it. Darren Gough also had Leeds United to go down this season before the start. Don't know how he could have thought that with Bielsa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 19 April, 2021 Share Posted 19 April, 2021 21 minutes ago, Huffton said: I'm willing to give him until christmas. He's been making a few comments lately about having a bit of a trasfer kitty this summer, something he hasn't had so far, and to be honest if we sack him who could we realistically replace him with who could do any better with this squad? Eddie Howe 💯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 19 April, 2021 Share Posted 19 April, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chris cooper said: Eddie Howe 💯 Not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 19 April, 2021 Share Posted 19 April, 2021 1 hour ago, Chapel End said: Are there any good female managers out there we could get? Marianne Spacey seems to be doing well with the women's team. They're beating sides from leagues above in the cup. Would be a promotion from within so would carry on the Southampton Way. Make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 19 April, 2021 Share Posted 19 April, 2021 4 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: Good post albeit the message depressing. For me Ralph is holed beneath the water line. How long will he keep us afloat? The ridiculous thing is he is virtually unsackable which is not really a healthy situation. Maybe a shakeup to football in this country has come at a good time for us. I think it might come at a good time for us, chaos will throw a lot of clubs plans into turmoil so we won't be the only ones in a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 19 April, 2021 Share Posted 19 April, 2021 36 minutes ago, The Cat said: Marianne Spacey seems to be doing well with the women's team. They're beating sides from leagues above in the cup. Would be a promotion from within so would carry on the Southampton Way. Make it happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 April, 2021 Share Posted 19 April, 2021 I see the Mourinho apologists on Sky Sports have worked up a SaintsWeb-Ralph style factoid for Jose's time at Spurs. Apparently if you only look at matches since he took over, Tottenham would be fourth. The old 17 months between November '19 and April '21 analysis system. Everyone is at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 19 April, 2021 Share Posted 19 April, 2021 1 hour ago, Chapel End said: Not for me. Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 19 April, 2021 Share Posted 19 April, 2021 2 hours ago, Huffton said: I'm willing to give him until christmas. He's been making a few comments lately about having a bit of a trasfer kitty this summer, something he hasn't had so far, and to be honest if we sack him who could we realistically replace him with who could do any better with this squad? That’s my view. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 (edited) 12 defeats in 15. The worst team in the league in 2021. Outfoxed by a 29 year old YTS manager and a team phoning it in before a cup final. The guy's fucking clueless. ANY manager with something about them would've found a way to halt the haemorrhaging by now. Might not be pretty, might be parking the bus and grimly picking up draws, but it'd be something; a reaction; a proactive response to atrocious, unacceptable form. But not the Alpine Klopp. Not the tactical maverick, reinventor of the beautiful game. He's got nothing up his sleeve. He's got the tactical depth of a puddle of jizz. Who's still making excuses for him? Hopeless. Still not convinced we won't go down this season, but we've got no chance next season. Edited 21 April, 2021 by qwertyell 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 Our awful run of performances began with his tears after Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 7 points out of a possible 45....10 points in 4 months. his subs buggered us up today. Breaking up JWP and Armstrong in their roles in the first half was criminal. how anyone can defend him I don’t know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 On 19/04/2021 at 19:13, The Cat said: Marianne Spacey seems to be doing well with the women's team. They're beating sides from leagues above in the cup. Would be a promotion from within so would carry on the Southampton Way. Make it happen. I’ve always maintained Hope Powell is the best fit for a progressive club like us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 I'm not quite in the out camp yet but he's nothing doing himself any favours and he's got to find a way to turn this round quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbenny Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 I'm not sure how much longer the board can justify Ralph being in the job. It's not just the poor results but his complete stubbornness to change or adapt tactics before or during a game. He just does the same thing over and over again. He clearly holds a grudge against certain players (for whatever reason) and has his favourites in others. I hate knocking our team but having watched Djenepo on more than one occasion I fail to see what he brings to the party. When Danny went off tonight the only change that should have been made was to bring on another striker to replace him. Why the hell did Ralph bring on Diallo?? Armstrong and JWP had the midfield under control. He brings on Diallo and we lose our shape and control. He does this week in week out. If (and I don't think we will) we lost our remaining 6 games surely he would go? Let's be honest it's not like we are going to replace 10 of the first team in the summer. Whoever is in charge needs to get more out of this group of players than Ralph is currently doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 2 minutes ago, saint lard said: 7 points out of a possible 45....10 points in 4 months. his subs buggered us up today. Breaking up JWP and Armstrong in their roles in the first half was criminal. how anyone can defend him I don’t know. Who can we get that would come here that's better seems to be the argument? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinSFC Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 Blokes fucking clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 He's simply not a good manager over an extended period of time. One trick pony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mr X said: Who can we get that would come here that's better seems to be the argument? If Brentford don’t go up I’d take Thomas Frank if it were financially possible. Lampard,Howe....would Gerard like to pit his wits in a real league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 1 minute ago, saint lard said: If Brentford don’t go up I’d take Thomas Frank if it were financially possible. Lampard,Howe....would Gerard like to pit his wits in a real league? Do you think yet would do better with same squad I guess they can't do any worse at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, JustinSFC said: Blokes fucking clueless. How can you say that? You’ll have the cult after you. If he’s so fucking useless how did he win the “calendar year 4th place in 2020 award”, and the Pep “team of the month March 21 award” then? Even tonight he won an award, The “Ryan Mason most difficult managerial opponent I’ve faced award”. now sits proudly on his mantlepiece. Edited 21 April, 2021 by Lord Duckhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 Table from last 15 games, can't see Ralph surviving this, got to be worth a bet on us to go down next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, saint lard said: If Brentford don’t go up I’d take Thomas Frank if it were financially possible. Lampard,Howe....would Gerard like to pit his wits in a real league? This is the problem, none of those names are anywhere near realistic. That's what some fans aren't realising. If we get rid of Ralph, we are not attracting people like Steven Gerrard or Lampard to us. Not a chance. Maybe Sam Allardyce if he doesn't stay at West Brom? That's probably the level we'll be aiming at. They'll all be out of clubs too, you won't see us appointing a new manager who is currently employed such as Frank, as we don't have the funds for that. Edited 21 April, 2021 by S-Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr X said: Who can we get that would come here that's better seems to be the argument? Hasenhuttl is the worst manager this year in our league (possibly in all of England, I haven't checked). I think there are many names worth considering that could do better. Thomas Frank Eddie Howe Robert Moreno Andre Villas-Boas Roberto Di Matteo Vincenzo Montella Leonardo Jardim Jurgen Klingsman Marco Silva Frank Lampard John Terry Chris Wilder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 1 minute ago, JRM said: Table from last 15 games, can't see Ralph surviving this, got to be worth a bet on us to go down next season That’s crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 What’s going on with the goalkeepers. He seems to be undermining both of them in a matter of weeks. Is it indecision, or something else. Both must wonder where they stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 (edited) Lighthouse, or any Mod, let’s do a poll surely? Something like this? a) Ralph in no matter how this season finishes - to manage us in 2021/22 and beyond - he has proven what he is capable of with his 2020 calendar record b) Ralph in but only because I do not trust the board to find a suitable alternative no matter what happens this season so he should stay for next season c) Ralph in until end of season and beyond but if we do not exceed 40/41pts this campaign then sack him at end of season d) Ralph out now ——————————————— Or if simpler: Have a Ralph in for 2021/22, or Ralph out for 2021/22 poll Feel free to adjust or add suggestions to above Edited 21 April, 2021 by nta786 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: This is the problem, none of those names are anywhere near realistic. That's what some fans aren't realising. If we get rid of Ralph, we are not attracting people like Steven Gerrard or Lampard to us. Not a chance. Maybe Sam Allardyce if he doesn't stay at West Brom? That's probably the level we'll be aiming at. They'll all be out of clubs too, you won't see us appointing a new manager who is currently employed such as Frank, as we don't have the funds for that. I think someone like Lampard/Gerrard would consider us for sure- we are still a PL club with players who on paper to outsiders are average to decent (to shit) - a mgr will think there is enough to put his stamp on this squad. Plus, we have capability of offering up to £6m salary wise which equates to £115k a week so money will unlikely be a problem. I’d love to throw £8m to Benitez or something (yes I am dreaming a little but Newcastle had him in the Championship!) However, this is the thing- are Lamps/Gerrard still inexperienced? We know our choices are limited to unemployed managers, and there some biggish names out there. If this rot carries on into next season it would be stupid not to act- no one should be deemed un sackable - we took a contingency loan out which could help. Edited 21 April, 2021 by nta786 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 40 minutes ago, Maggie May said: Our awful run of performances began with his tears after Liverpool. That was incredibly embarrassing but the performance against a 10-man Arsenal was indicative of the bottling style that was at the heart of this pathetic team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 On 19/04/2021 at 18:05, Huffton said: I'm willing to give him until christmas. He's been making a few comments lately about having a bit of a trasfer kitty this summer, something he hasn't had so far, and to be honest if we sack him who could we realistically replace him with who could do any better with this squad? To each their own I guess, me personally I’d rather we gave that transfer kitty to someone that actually knows what they’re doing, and has some kind of successful track record in this league. Let’s not act like Ralph hasn’t bought anyone in, Diallo, Adams, Djenepo and Salisu were on his watch and they’re not exactly pulling up trees 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 Our inability to play well for 90 minutes anywhere near consistently enough long pre-dates the current manager but he's done little to nothing to change the tide. The main problem is the squad being weak as piss, exacerbated even further when Romeu is out. They're way too nice, as demonstrated tonight when one of the Spurs players went down with a non-head injury whilst we were attacking in their half and we put the ball out of play. Soft as sh*t and no leadership but the manager has more than enough time to address that even despite the lack of investment from the owner. There's little point in persisting with the style of play we've adopted if we're not fit enough to make it work over a full 90/don't have the depth to cope with it over the course of a season when injuries/fatigue hits and so we need a more adaptable coach to change it up when it clearly isn't working - like right now. A fresh start is needed and if they're going to make the change ahead of next season, we may as well do it now to try and turn results around and carry some form of positive momentum into the new campaign. Sadly, Semmens won't be pulling the plug on Ralph unless he absolutely has to though and a manager being that protected is a huge worry as it leads to what we're seeing right now - the boss and the players becoming far too comfortable. Fundamentally, unless there are big changes at the club in the summer from the top down (ownership, vision, playing staff, manager and youth team set-up), we look almost certain to drop out of the division next season or very soon after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 On 19/04/2021 at 18:05, Huffton said: I'm willing to give him until christmas. He's been making a few comments lately about having a bit of a trasfer kitty this summer, something he hasn't had so far, and to be honest if we sack him who could we realistically replace him with who could do any better with this squad? If we start next season like we've been during the last three months of this one, he'll be gone by end of September, but by then it really is 'Big Sam' time, and we'll all be asking why wasn't it done sooner. The replacements mentioned certainly don't inspire that's for sure. Eddie Howe might be another version of 'Arry, embarrassed by being here with his hear still a few miles down the coast, did I see Marco Silva's name mentioned somewhere on this thread, there's a throwback. Perhaps Ronald will be interested if his Barcelona jaunt comes to an end prematurely. I'd like to see Ralph turn it round, but its becoming increasingly difficult to see it without major investment - probably not happening - or to make a case out for him. Would like to see the gutless players fuck off, but whilst Ralph's hands are tied with those at his disposal, his selections, tactics are questionable, and motivational skills have gone down the bog. The club seems rotten from the top without direction, until that changes anything else is really just window dressing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 On the plus side in the league over the last 18 weeks just three win bonuses to pay out and four clean sheet bonuses. So that'll help. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 23 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: That’s crazy. Shocking form & no accountability for it whatsoever, it wouldn't be so bad if he was saying we aren't good enough and desperately need to improve & I take some responsibility for that, but instead we get we left it all on the pitch & gave our all after a cup semi final with not a shot on target 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 9 minutes ago, bpsaint said: To each their own I guess, me personally I’d rather we gave that transfer kitty to someone that actually knows what they’re doing, and has some kind of successful track record in this league. Let’s not act like Ralph hasn’t bought anyone in, Diallo, Adams, Djenepo and Salisu were on his watch and they’re not exactly pulling up trees Like who? What managers with a successful premier league track record will join us? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 2 minutes ago, bpsaint said: To each their own I guess, me personally I’d rather we gave that transfer kitty to someone that actually knows what they’re doing, and has some kind of successful track record in this league. Let’s not act like Ralph hasn’t bought anyone in, Diallo, Adams, Djenepo and Salisu were on his watch and they’re not exactly pulling up trees I agree with you although you may not agree with my suggestion for cutting the club’s cloth unless a takeover happens - Allardyce. I don’t think he will stay on at WBA but has finally got them set up properly how he wants. If he joined on 1 June he’d have a whole pre season to sort out all first team affairs at the club and get rid of the deadwood on the playing and coaching staff. He got the Sunderland side that I saw ship at SMS and they were worse than this SFC side, and CP were soft when he joined them as well. At WBA and other clubs he has shown he can find cute bargains that work in this league. Brexit doesn’t help but he has still found Okay who has been far more than OK, AMN would come and reinforce the midfield as well. He would work the loan system well. I’d love to think we’d get a takeover and be talking about Lampard etc but have to be realistic. Les Reed did more damage than Milan Mandaric could have done on purpose and the recruitment since hasn’t been much better. An old school manager who can organise a defence and has a big contacts book for signings is the order of the day. Leave Crocker to sort the academy from Reed and Hunter’s destruction of it, a boy shouldn’t be doing a man’s job with the first team. Even if he only did a year a manager I’d keep him on the recruitment side after that, club needs to go back to basics for a while. Compete, stronger physically and mentally, become difficult to beat again until Gao clears off. Thanks for all you’ve done Ralph and March to January which was great to watch but for everyone’s sake it’s time to move on unless there’s a new owner who can buy the strength and quality of player to make his coaching work again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 4 minutes ago, Turkish said: Like who? What managers with a successful premier league track record will join us? BFS would probably come tomorrow before he has WBA relegation on his CV....! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 3 minutes ago, Badger said: If we start next season like we've been during the last three months of this one, he'll be gone by end of September, but by then it really is 'Big Sam' time, and we'll all be asking why wasn't it done sooner. The replacements mentioned certainly don't inspire that's for sure. Eddie Howe might be another version of 'Arry, embarrassed by being here with his hear still a few miles down the coast, did I see Marco Silva's name mentioned somewhere on this thread, there's a throwback. Perhaps Ronald will be interested if his Barcelona jaunt comes to an end prematurely. I'd like to see Ralph turn it round, but its becoming increasingly difficult to see it without major investment - probably not happening - or to make a case out for him. Would like to see the gutless players fuck off, but whilst Ralph's hands are tied with those at his disposal, his selections, tactics are questionable, and motivational skills have gone down the bog. The club seems rotten from the top without direction, until that changes anything else is really just window dressing. Even if that was the case, would we actually sack Ralph though? Said it before that we've clearly backed him all the way by giving him complete control of the footballing side of things. We've committed to playing the long game with him. Doesnt help when you see pundits say that we deserve credit for not sacking him after either 9-0. Under current ownership we cant afford to sack him and the only way I could see him leaving is if he walks, which is unlikely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 I would have more faith if the U18s and U23 teams were doing well but right now our academy is utter crap and Ralph has had nearly 3 years to stamp his philosophy on them. The guy is a charlatan in my opinion but we are stuck with him because our current board who are clueless on football matters decided to entrust Ralph with the kitchen sink and the draining board. And they dug themselves a big hole in the process 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 7 minutes ago, LeG said: New owner will bring in a new manager in the summer I expect. Any chance of a new owner actually happening by the summer? It feels like a very slim hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 7 minutes ago, LeG said: New owner will bring in a new manager in the summer I expect. Maybe... We're probably a long way off getting a new owner though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 8 minutes ago, LeG said: New owner will bring in a new manager in the summer I expect. Hope to God there is a new owner by June or so otherwise this club is going somewhere very unpleasant in a flimsily built handcart (a bit like each of the Saints playing squads at the moment). Seems unlikely but need something to hand onto! Club directionless from the top since summer 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 Gao must be absolutely delighted. It has gone from being all his fault to all Ralph’s fault. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 21 April, 2021 Share Posted 21 April, 2021 1 hour ago, Turkish said: Like who? What managers with a successful premier league track record will join us? In the best of all worlds, I would hope that we could appeal to Graham Potter’s history with Saints plus cash, but fear that ship has sailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 22 April, 2021 Share Posted 22 April, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, sadoldgit said: Gao must be absolutely delighted. It has gone from being all his fault to all Ralph’s fault. Pony. Edited 22 April, 2021 by Lord Duckhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 22 April, 2021 Share Posted 22 April, 2021 It seems his footprint across the whole club is failing. Look at the state of the others teams at the club! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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