Ralph Hasenhuttl

[Convict Colony]

eurgh

[skintsaint]

31 minutes ago, Master Bates said:

https://theathletic.com/3767785/2022/11/06/ralph-hasenhuttl-sacked-southampton/

Can't even decide when to sack a manager properly. Just do it now ffs. Why would you wait to sack him.

[Wade Garrett]

SR are looking like chumps.

[Roo1976]

49 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

One thing I have to say about the parlous position Saints find themselves in is that the team have generally put in a decent shift whenever I have seen them play. even if the end product has been so badly lacking for some time now.
I have generally been a supporter of Ralph but to play Theo Walcott, who's general input was to run alongside opposing players, more or less convinced me that we do need a new Manager.

And no Mara in such an inept performance, now theres a shocker.

[Dr Who?]

If he does get sacked it will be because of his/the clubs failure to secure a striker since Danny Ings left. It is not as though the signs have not been there since this happened and the failure to replace him will be his downfall. Now we’re his hands tied or did he not bring enough to the table for a replacement. I would suggest that the club need to take a long hard look at themselves, but of course the manager will take the blame. I believe the reason for many scouts leaving will be that they have been ignored with their transfer targets.

The team are still playing for him and listen to ever word when called to the sideline. I do not believe any rumours that say he has lost the dressing room, that is tosh. Also the stats are always the same, if you look today it is a lack of striker the chances at important times in the game that were wasted is unreal.

I feel sorry for Ralph if this is the true. He has done well with his hands tied, we play good football and try and play the right way, when we can all see we are lacking a quality striker. I cannot see anyone else doing a better job than Ralph without getting a sticker. .

I truly do not think a new manager will keep us up, but the signing of a new quality striker will.

Are the club going back to the joke days of Lowe. 

Edited 6 November, 2022 by Dr Who?

[Roboze]

If SR won't Sack him, he should do the decent thing, admit he is out of ideas, stand down and let someone else have a pop!

[wild-saint]

SR are chumps. Wasted 75million on players not good enough to start in the prem, let Romeo go when we lose the best player we did sign after he got injured for 2 months and failed to sign a number 9 &10 which we were fucking crying out for.

as stale as it is under Ralph they have a lot to answer for.

[Turkish]

42 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

He has to go now if all these reports are out he's getting sacked, would be completely unprofessional to keep him in now

Someone has leaked that out, pretty poor to do that, they have to sack him now, no way can he go into the Liverpool game with everyone knowing he’s going, it’s going to be bad enough anyway without a dead duck manager waiting to get his P45

[Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd]

He's still here then? 😠

If I wake up tomorrow and there's no announcement of his departure then I'm voting with my feet. Why would I shell out for tickets when that clueless prick is 'running' the show. 

[Suhari]

3 minutes ago, Dr Who? said:

If he does get sacked it will be because of his/the clubs failure to secure a striker since Danny Ings left. It is not as though the signs have not been there since this happened and the failure to replace him will be his downfall. Now we’re his hands tied or did he not bring enough to the table for a replacement. I would suggest that the club need to take a long hard look at themselves, but of course the manager will take the blame. I believe the reason for many scouts leaving will be that they have been ignored with their transfer targets.

The team are still playing for him and listen to ever word when called to the sideline. I do not believe any rumours that say he has lost the dressing room, that is tosh. Also the stats are always the same, if you look today it is a lack of striker the chances at important times in the game that were wasted is unreal.

I feel sorry for Ralph if this is the true. He has done well with his hands tied, we play good football and try and play the right way, when we can all see we are lacking a quality striker. I cannot see anyone else doing a better job than Ralph without getting a sticker. .

I truly do not think a new manager will keep us up, but the signing of a new quality striker will.

Our the club going back to the joke days of Lowe. 

Absolutely.

Ralph has his failings... which is why he's our manager and not with a 'big club '. He's been very good for us.

The lack of quality in the squad in recent years, and the failure to sign prem quality attackers in the summer is not on him. He's been let down.

Although I do think it's time for him to go. He needs a break and we need a refresh..

[Mr Saints]

Surely the announcement is imminent. If he is allowed to take the Liverpool game it really is Sunday League leadership.

[Wade Garrett]

5 minutes ago, Mr Saints said:

Surely the announcement is imminent. If he is allowed to take the Liverpool game it really is Sunday League leadership.

Sheffield Wednesday first.  He shouldn’t take charge for that game either.

He has no authority now.  He can’t stay.

[Saint NL]

I heard that they gave Ralph's P45 to Che Adams to hand it over, but he missed 

[danjosaint]

42 minutes ago, Dr Who? said:

If he does get sacked it will be because of his/the clubs failure to secure a striker since Danny Ings left. It is not as though the signs have not been there since this happened and the failure to replace him will be his downfall. Now we’re his hands tied or did he not bring enough to the table for a replacement. I would suggest that the club need to take a long hard look at themselves, but of course the manager will take the blame. I believe the reason for many scouts leaving will be that they have been ignored with their transfer targets.

The team are still playing for him and listen to ever word when called to the sideline. I do not believe any rumours that say he has lost the dressing room, that is tosh. Also the stats are always the same, if you look today it is a lack of striker the chances at important times in the game that were wasted is unreal.

I feel sorry for Ralph if this is the true. He has done well with his hands tied, we play good football and try and play the right way, when we can all see we are lacking a quality striker. I cannot see anyone else doing a better job than Ralph without getting a sticker. .

I truly do not think a new manager will keep us up, but the signing of a new quality striker will.

Our the club going back to the joke days of Lowe. 

Its crap like this i dont understand, yes we needed a striker so for that SR or more so Semmens is at fault for letting him down, the abject performances, the tactical balls up, the strange substitutions, the passive nature of squad, the amount of points thrown away by a spineless rudderless team with no in game management, the continued use of favourite players, the record of conceded goals,  now that is ALL on Ralph NOT the fact we didnt have a new striker, so for me Ralph shouldve gone last year and so should Semmens

[kwsaint]

SR dont come out of this at all well.  My guess is that they have someone lined up after the world cup to replace Ralph, which puts him in a horrible position.  He is a dead man walking.  He has completely run out of ideas.  Decent man, but should have been replaced in the summer.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

7 minutes ago, kwsaint said:

SR dont come out of this at all well.  My guess is that they have someone lined up after the world cup to replace Ralph, which puts him in a horrible position.  He is a dead man walking.  He has completely run out of ideas.  Decent man, but should have been replaced in the summer.

Totally agreed. The change should have been made in the summer. I like Ralph, really wanted him to be a success, but for whatever reason he has totally lost his way.

[Barsiem]

9 minutes ago, kwsaint said:

Decent man, but should have been replaced in the summer.

This basically.  We replaced the coaching staff, which was obviously the cheaper option, but we should have bitten the bullet and paid him off then.  Tbh I think Ralph has been waiting to be pushed.  He should walk really if he feels he’s out of ideas, but I guess not many would walk away from that sort of payoff…

[bpsaint]

4 minutes ago, kwsaint said:

SR dont come out of this at all well.  My guess is that they have someone lined up after the world cup to replace Ralph, which puts him in a horrible position.  He is a dead man walking.  He has completely run out of ideas.  Decent man, but should have been replaced in the summer.

Exactly this, after our atrocious end to the season it should have been thanks very much for all you’ve done, golden handshake and a whole new coaching team bought in with a summer of transfer activity for them to build a squad. Instead we’ve allowed this to fester for far too long, and in the meanwhile thrown away very good opportunities to get more points on the board from some kind fixtures.

Allowing it to drag on is just reminding me of 2004/05 all over again when Lowe persisted with Wigley for 14 or so games after sacking Luggy and gambled with our Premier League status claiming that it was worth giving young coaches a chance before the board forced his hand into a decision. It’s poor in SR that they’ve put Ralph in this position, I’m sure he’d love to walk away but it won’t be of his own choice as it’ll cost him a huge severance package. 

Don’t wait around until after the Liverpool game, just fucking sort it now and give the new boss the whole World Cup break, and some decent time with the squad.

[AlexLaw76]

The news in the Athletic has to be a leak from someone/people who have had enough of Ralph and getting it out there now

[Turkish]

Anyone else uncomfortable with the timing of this article? Came out within minutes of the final whistle with a claim the decision was made towards the end of the match. No chance, this is either someone inside the camp leaking things or a briefing from SR to do this if we lose. Either way the concept of him being sacked but still being in charge for another week is completely ridiculous 

[Harry_SFC]

9 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Anyone else uncomfortable with the timing of this article? Came out within minutes of the final whistle with a claim the decision was made towards the end of the match. No chance, this is either someone inside the camp leaking things or a briefing from SR to do this if we lose. Either way the concept of him being sacked but still being in charge for another week is completely ridiculous 

The whole situation has turned into a farce. Sack him or back him. Don't leave the guy in the lurch ffs.

[The Kraken]

Athletic supposedly reporting that Ralph is going.

[Pamplemousse]

It's sad - I so wanted him to succeed here. But it's clear to me that we need a change.

Just get someone in who can play exciting, attacking football. That's all.

[The Kraken]

[Fitzhugh Fella]

5 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Anyone else uncomfortable with the timing of this article? Came out within minutes of the final whistle with a claim the decision was made towards the end of the match. No chance, this is either someone inside the camp leaking things or a briefing from SR to do this if we lose. Either way the concept of him being sacked but still being in charge for another week is completely ridiculous 

Yes it’s very amateurish and a bit of a worry we can’t even efficiently dispense with a manager in a way that gives him a bit of respect (which he deserves). For me there are other culprits who should shoulder blame. Semmens definitely. He tied his colours to Ralph’s mast, admirable loyalty but wrong shout. Blackmore too must shoulder blame for losing his impartiality in the interests of feathering his own nest. He has not serviced his listeners interests. 
SD’s failure to deliver a striker has been the biggest failure and Ralph can feel really aggrieved there was no plan B (unlike Leeds who acted promptly when the Gakpo deal foundered and have since benefited from the young player they signed). 
I am not confident SD are in total control nor are capable of finding the right replacement which means relegation and the likely departure of the young promising players we signed. Jesus what a mess. Oh for some leadership right now  

 

[FarehamSaintJames]

Called it for the World Cup period a while ago 😇

After today, why bother waiting..? 🤷‍♂️

[Miltonaggro]

Fuck me, remarkable if Sport Republic keep this torture going for another week just to conform to their wall planner. 

[CityRanger]

That article makes no sense whatsoever? “Have decided” to “could now act sooner” in 3 pars.

[Dorchester Saint]

Why had there been no announcement yet? What are they waiting for, there’s absolutely zero sense in persisting with kicking the can down the road, he’s done, the players know it, he knows it, we know it, the whole of English football knows it. In the name of sanity, just sack the bloke !!!

[Harry_SFC]

22 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Yes it’s very amateurish and a bit of a worry we can’t even efficiently dispense with a manager in a way that gives him a bit of respect (which he deserves). For me there are other culprits who should shoulder blame. Semmens definitely. He tied his colours to Ralph’s mast, admirable loyalty but wrong shout. Blackmore too must shoulder blame for losing his impartiality in the interests of feathering his own nest. He has not serviced his listeners interests. 
SD’s failure to deliver a striker has been the biggest failure and Ralph can feel really aggrieved there was no plan B (unlike Leeds who acted promptly when the Gakpo deal foundered and have since benefited from the young player they signed). 
I am not confident SD are in total control nor are capable of finding the right replacement which means relegation and the likely departure of the young promising players we signed. Jesus what a mess. Oh for some leadership right now  

 

Supposedly the money was there for a striker but Semmens cocked it up. For me SR need to show some balls and start getting rid of those who are underperforming in their roles (Semmens and Ralph in particular) 

[saint1977]

It’s embarrassing way to run any organisation let alone a globally known football club. After a shitshow of a summer and our own fans unsafe in SMS - what other PL club would allow let alone encourage and enable that to happen - selling up might be best as I think SFC is too big a club for them.

If they want to stay and meet our expectations, try making SMS into a better and safer environment again with a team worth cheering and away fans where they should be in the away end. They also need to think about how start rebuilding trust and connections with the supporters - they are on a par with Rupert Lowe circa 2008/9 at present. 

Anything less than Ralph, Semmens, Steele and the Head of Security sacked/gardening leave tomorrow as a minimum is unacceptable to the supporters. We have to be a lot more demanding from now on to set the standards expected of anyone employed by our club. The club has gone into one of its insular phases and needs pulling out. Dragan and Rasmus flying over to meet with the fans and the new first team management and board in January would help as well so we can finally get some sense of the longer-term direction and assess if it’s for us or not. Do the due diligence Semmens didn’t do.

Radio 5Live had a segment on it at HT in Spurs v Liverpool and Savage was calling the club out basically saying the rumours about whether to sack him or not before the WC were ‘nonsensical’ - do it or not but show some respect. Not often I agree with Robbie Savage.

Edited 6 November, 2022 by saint1977

[Turkish]

23 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Yes it’s very amateurish and a bit of a worry we can’t even efficiently dispense with a manager in a way that gives him a bit of respect (which he deserves). For me there are other culprits who should shoulder blame. Semmens definitely. He tied his colours to Ralph’s mast, admirable loyalty but wrong shout. Blackmore too must shoulder blame for losing his impartiality in the interests of feathering his own nest. He has not serviced his listeners interests. 
SD’s failure to deliver a striker has been the biggest failure and Ralph can feel really aggrieved there was no plan B (unlike Leeds who acted promptly when the Gakpo deal foundered and have since benefited from the young player they signed). 
I am not confident SD are in total control nor are capable of finding the right replacement which means relegation and the likely departure of the young promising players we signed. Jesus what a mess. Oh for some leadership right now  

 

I wonder how much they are involved day to day. If the rumours are true that Semmens cocked up the striker then it says to me not very much I also wonder how much of the signing of a load of kids was SD, or they gave Semmens the money with the free reign. Either way they aren't going to be happy that they've spent £80m and we've got worse. 

[Turkish]

4 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Supposedly the money was there for a striker but Semmens cocked it up. For me SR need to show some balls and start getting rid of those who are underperforming in their roles (Semmens and Ralph in particular) 

It's like the Apprentice this isn't it. Who is responsible for the failure of this task. Ralph, Semmens and Steele currently in the boardroom pleading their case.

[Pamplemousse]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

It's like the Apprentice this isn't it. Who is responsible for the failure of this task. Ralph, Semmens and Steele currently in the boardroom pleading their case.

Hopefully we'll see the occasion when Lord Sugar goes mental and fires everyone

[Chris cooper]

4 minutes ago, saint1977 said:

It’s embarrassing way to run any organisation let alone a globally known football club. After a shitshow of a summer and our own fans unsafe in SMS - what other PL club would allow let alone encourage and enable that to happen - selling up might be best as I think SFC is too big a club for them.

If they want to stay and meet our expectations, try making SMS into a better and safer environment again with a team worth cheering and away fans where they should be in the away end. They also need to think about how start rebuilding trust and connections with the supporters - they are on a par with Rupert Lowe circa 2008/9 at present. 

Anything less than Ralph, Semmens, Steele and the Head of Security sacked/gardening leave tomorrow as a minimum is unacceptable to the supporters. We have to be a lot more demanding from now on to set the standards expected of anyone employed by our club. The club has gone into one of its insular phases and needs pulling out. Dragan and Rasmus flying over to meet with the fans and the new first team management and board in January would help as well so we can finally get some sense of the longer-term direction and assess if it’s for us or not. Do the due diligence Semmens didn’t do.

Sheffield Wednesday midweek will be mayhem in all areas … reports on owls web that they have huge pockets of away support all over sms 

[Forester]

What we don’t know is whether there is a contractual clause that says “we can fire you on the cheap if you are in bottom three after x games” or at the World Cup break etc.  This may have been agreed in the summer 

[Dusic]

Pretty easy to summarise IMO:

- Right decision to replace Ralph but they have taken too long to do it and in that time l've felt sorry for him because he deserved a more dignified exit after the admirable service.

- Overall he has done a good job in a period of low/no investment where our best players have continually been sold. Especially his first year or so he really changed the feeling around the club - we were on a clesr path to relegation. Ironically we now need someone to have the kind of impact he first did.

- SR has to get both of these right in order for us to avoid relegation:

1. Good managerial appointment who can get us back playing to a specific style but also to quickly get results - our fixtures after the WC are the best run of the season on paper and immediate results will be needed to avoid being cut adrift.

2. January has to see the signing of two good attackers to go straight into the side and add goals and creativity. Whoever takes charge will have little chance otherwise. The WC break gives ample time to sort something for day one of the window...get it done even if it means overpaying - its their fault we didnt address this in the summer.

[Mr X]

Express reporting it too, probably be announced officially tomorrow if it's going to happen, the change should have been made a lot sooner and whoever it is coming in the club hopefully will have listed relegation battle experience as a pre requisite 

[CB Fry]

I think the sheen has come off Sports Republic.

The way this is coming out is an absolute bloody shambles.

Let's not kid ourselves that this lot are the solid sensible custodians we thought they might be.

Every football club in the world has sacked a manager and pretty much all of them can execute that task better than this.

[AlexLaw76]

Semmens and co deserve the sack for 'picking' SR as our new owners..

 

[IOWSaintDaz]

Hopefully its gonna be Marcelo Gallardo as widely reported he is to leave River Plate, but could be Sean Dyche or worse still Fat Sam!!

[Edmonton Saint]

I guess now it’s leaked it’s going to happen within the next 24hrs so SR can save what little face they have left.  We need to go back to having a identity and a game plan, that’d be a good place to start when looking for a replacement 

[mitch01]

I like Ralph a lot and will always respect the total commitment and care for club he has clearly shown since he joined us 4yrs ago. He's presided over a period of big change and our squad is now in a much, much better place. At it's best some of the football in his time has been excellent. Some of the defeats recently though have been pretty dispiriting but I feel overall he has guided the club with a lot of resilience under tough conditions. I do think now is the right time for a change, and I hope (and suspect) that we've had a list of exciting replacements ready for some time. I know not everyone feels the same but he goes with my thanks.

[The Curse of St Mary's]

Need to get new manager in before world cup break. He then has a few weeks to work on some stuff and gel the players. 

We must line up striker and creative player at start of window, even if that means overpaying. We cannot afford to drag our feet, it's our only chance imo. 

[ally_uk]

Whole situation is embarrassing 

Just make a decision now and stick with it..... 

New guy needs to come in now. 

He will need backing with at least a creative player and a targetman in the January window otherwise forget staying in this league it's that simple....

 

 

[DT]

Southgate? Surely not. Might it be the reason for the timing?

[Tom & Gerry]

Managers are neither good or bad, they all know the game backwards, it's not that difficult.  They either fit ir they don't and nearly all have a shelf life and then are no longer effective,  and hardly any achieve much after they leave Southampton. 

[Killers Knee]

Ralf's issue was that the pressing 4-2-2-2 system, although exciting and attacking, didn't work because we didn't have the right players for it, when we had the ability to buy new players, he'd long forgotten we used to play exciting attacking football and bought players for a turgid rubbish style of play.

The only current premiership manager to have served longer than Ralf:  Jurgen Klopp

[cloggy saint]

27 minutes ago, Mr X said:

 hopefully will have listed relegation battle experience as a pre requisite 

What is relegation battle experience? Surely any manager will try and win every game whether it's a relegation battle, top 4 battle or title push.

[Pilchards]

I actually feel a tad sorry for Ralph in a way. Yes he tinkers the starting line up too much but bloody hell if only Che Adams, Adam Armstrong and Mohamed Elyounoussi knew how to score from 5 yards out time and time again we might not be in this bloody mess in the first place.

Honestly 95% of the posters on here could of put those chances Adams has had in the last few games.