Bad Wolf Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 52 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Bazunu, KwP, Tino, Salisu, ABK, DCC, JwP, AMN (although not ours), S.Armstrong, Lavia, Adams (given he was linked with a few clubs this summer) All you're doing is listing our good players without taking into account the logistics of a club actually signing them from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West end Saints Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 On 11/10/2022 at 20:20, West end Saints said: I don't know what the Board think, but, Blackmore seemed to be under the impression that Ralph is definately in his last season, and the board are likely to assess at world Cup break. I wonder how many points will be his safety threshold? We will then have played 15 games (currently 7 from 9 games). There can't be anyway they would consider keeping him if we lose the next 6 (or sack him if we win the next 6!). Style of play, whether defeats are close etc will come into in but I'm thinking 6 or less surely they will change? 9 safe? So, only need 4 points from these next two and he is safe, easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 4 hours ago, SotonianWill said: Both have taken clubs from the championship into europe, so its not that bad. I'd happily have either of them tbh. Personally I like the idea of keeping a manager for a long time which is why im neutral on Ralphs staying or going. Dyche could stay here for a long time and build a good structure for the young players to follow. He did it on a small budget at Burnley and is a good character in the game. Okay it's all a matter of opinion, and you can't argue with the fact you've given on the promotion and reaching European qualification. But skim beneath the surface and I'm not sure of either. Nuno, as I said earlier was bankrolled by Fosun with direct contact to a particular agent, which he probably won't get here. I don't recall Wolves bringing many younger players through, unless of course you regard the country of Portugal as their academy. Dyche, not sure he is regarded as a 'good character'., just a moaning gravel voiced tosser. Was it Dyche who Burnley's own fans called 'Ginger Mourinho' ? Always struck me ass more of a 'Ginger Branfoot' with his style of play. In fairness , yes did well with limited resources and bringing players through - from signings rather than academy (exception McNeil) I think - but isn't that a reflection of their scouting rather than him ? Many people were wary when Rupert appointed a recently relegated and sacked WGS.though and that turned out okay for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Have a day off. Adams, Salisu and Stu wont attract anyone better than relegation strugglers. Tino, Baz and DCC are far from proven players. AMN has looked like a fish up a tree for the most part and marginally less crap in his last game. Lavia and ABK will be in demand. JWP and KWP will probably end up somewhere like Everton or West Ham, superstars they are not. You don't think someone decent would snap Salisu up? Ok he isn't great on the ball yet but he's still very young for a centre back and is actually very good at defending. He has bags of potential. In the last two games AMN has looked good and Arsenal fans seem to rate him. Tino and Bazunu would go to Premier League teams and West Ham & Villa both wanted DCC so no doubt he would as well. Edited 5 November, 2022 by Harry_SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 1 hour ago, Raging Bull said: Any idea who? For both the manager (whether it’s Nuno or not) and the strikers? on a scale of 1 (no confidence whatsoever) to 10 (im shitting myself with excitement). How confident are you with the front players? The Semmens cock up was buried. SR were fuming. We have the money put aside can’t see them letting it happen again. No idea who but if you heard the story they told Semmens money no object.. within reason of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 10 minutes ago, manji said: they told Semmens money no object.. within reason of course. How can “money no object” come with the caveat “within reason”. It’s either money no object, or a budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 (edited) . Edited 5 November, 2022 by The Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarisbury Saint Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said: How can “money no object” come with the caveat “within reason”. It’s either money no object, or a budget. I’m reading that, as we have a big wedge to spend by our expectations. In my opinion that would be up to £40m 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 1 hour ago, manji said: The Semmens cock up was buried. SR were fuming. We have the money put aside can’t see them letting it happen again. No idea who but if you heard the story they told Semmens money no object.. within reason of course. So let's get this straight....even when we're offered a big wedge to spend Semmens cocks it up. That's assuming this rumour is true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 1 hour ago, manji said: The Semmens cock up was buried. SR were fuming. We have the money put aside can’t see them letting it happen again. No idea who but if you heard the story they told Semmens money no object.. within reason of course. Yet he remains in post. We are bottom 3 now, and will be there come the break. Largely because of Sports Republic’s passive support of a shite manager. Talk about ostriches with their heads in the sand. Impressed with the amount of money spent in the window, but their management of the club hasn’t been that great up until now. Hopefully they’ll turn it around. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, manji said: The Semmens cock up was buried. SR were fuming. We have the money put aside can’t see them letting it happen again. No idea who but if you heard the story they told Semmens money no object.. within reason of course. This sounds as far fetched as your Ukraine posts. Absolutely nothing that happened in the summer transfer window suggested for one second that "money was no object" We bought a handful of kids for sub ten million. Aribo six million. And so on. Money clearly, obviously, an object. Edited 5 November, 2022 by CB Fry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Bates Statue Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said: How can “money no object” come with the caveat “within reason”. It’s either money no object, or a budget. Glad to see that pedantry is alive and kicking on this forum. How about, "he was given a green light to spend far more than we are usually accustomed to" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ted Bates Statue said: Glad to see that pedantry is alive and kicking on this forum. How about, "he was given a green light to spend far more than we are usually accustomed to" That's how I read it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ted Bates Statue said: Glad to see that pedantry is alive and kicking on this forum. How about, "he was given a green light to spend far more than we are usually accustomed to" Its not "pedantic" to say that what you've put there does not mean "money was no object". Because it doesn't mean that. Anyone saying "Semmens was told money was no object and he still cocked up" is a bullshitter, bullshitting. Edited 5 November, 2022 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Bates Statue Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 5 minutes ago, CB Fry said: This sounds as far fetched as your Ukraine posts. Absolutely nothing that happened in the summer transfer window suggested for one second that "money was no object" What, apart from our net spend, and the fact we were universally expected to spend heavy money on top of that? If you don't like the Ukraine posts, you can always ignore them. We will find out Sport Republic's verdict soon enough. My guess was that Hasenhuttl would be given until the world cup break to show that he had what it takes this season, and that on the existing form he would come up short. Manji has suggested if there are any imminent departures, it will be Semmens'. If he says that, then there could well be something in it. It looks increasingly to me like RH has been given a 'get out of jail free' card from above. For me, that's the only explanation I have for why he is still in post, despite the appalling body language he exhibits these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAY-Z Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 Just watching the other games from overnight, every other team is playing a completely different game to us with a desire to play forward and take the game on, playing the style we are gives us no chance 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 1 hour ago, Ted Bates Statue said: What, apart from our net spend, and the fact we were universally expected to spend heavy money on top of that? If you don't like the Ukraine posts, you can always ignore them. We will find out Sport Republic's verdict soon enough. My guess was that Hasenhuttl would be given until the world cup break to show that he had what it takes this season, and that on the existing form he would come up short. Manji has suggested if there are any imminent departures, it will be Semmens'. If he says that, then there could well be something in it. It looks increasingly to me like RH has been given a 'get out of jail free' card from above. For me, that's the only explanation I have for why he is still in post, despite the appalling body language he exhibits these days. Thanks for confirming that Manji has two usernames, then. I always imagine it is difficult to keep track of who you are at any given time, and you've fucked up there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Bates Statue Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Thanks for confirming that Manji has two usernames, then. I always imagine it is difficult to keep track of who you are at any given time, and you've fucked up there. It's much worse than that. I'm actually one of a large number of bot accounts designed primarily to engage you in pointless conversation on here, energising ourselves by feeding off your righteousness, a bit like a really shit version of the Matrix. Edited 5 November, 2022 by Ted Bates Statue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ted Bates Statue said: It's much worse than that. I'm actually one of a large number of bot accounts designed primarily to engage you in pointless conversation on here, energising ourselves by feeding off your righteousness, a bit like a really shit version of the Matrix. Tell your bots to be a bit less touchy about your Ukraine bullshit x x x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 His press conference on Thursday gave off the vibe that he is on his way out soon and he knows it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 I really hope so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 Looks like Ralph could be leaving us when we are sitting at the bottom after the next two games. What a brave person wanting to come in and managed this lot? It shows you how bad the current board is for letting it get this low. 90% of us could see where we were heading at the end of last season and they took far too long to react. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 48 minutes ago, Dusic said: His press conference on Thursday gave off the vibe that he is on his way out soon and he knows it. How so? I didn’t catch the full thing, only seen the bit about 10-15 seasonal defeats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 1 hour ago, Dusic said: His press conference on Thursday gave off the vibe that he is on his way out soon and he knows it. His body language has been awful for a while now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said: How so? I didn’t catch the full thing, only seen the bit about 10-15 seasonal defeats Overall just doesn't have the verve he has and has lost that belief that we can challenge teams with greater resources, which shows in our performances. Specifically when asked by Blackmore about having done nearly 4 years and what his reflections were he spoke very much in a way that it was nearly the end rather than part of a longer journey. Referred to how much older he looks than when he started and that 4 years is a long time for a manager at a club. Said we have had ups and downs and opportunities for higher finishes. He didn't make any reference to the future. I think Blackmore missed an obvious follow up, "How energised are you for the future here?" Or "Whats your next goals with Saints?" Would have been interesting to hear his response as he is usually pretty honest. ----------- Redmond's Athletic interview today is interesting on Ralph, summing up most peoples feelings that we press but have little else in attack. I maintain NR was misunderstood and actually a good character who cared more than many players. Edited 6 November, 2022 by Dusic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 As a few of us have been saying for a long time. It’s why he (Ralph) should have left a year ago, and probably why he falls out with every striker he has. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dman said: As a few of us have been saying for a long time. It’s why he (Ralph) should have left a year ago, and probably why he falls out with every striker he has. Absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 18 minutes ago, Dusic said: Overall just doesn't have the verve he has and has lost that belief that we can challenge teams with greater resources, which shows in our performances. Specifically when asked by Blackmore about having done nearly 4 years and what his reflections were he spoke very much in a way that it was nearly the end rather than part of a longer journey. Referred to how much older he looks than when he started and that 4 years is a long time for a manager at a club. Said we have had ups and downs and opportunities for higher finishes. He didn't make any reference to the future. I think Blackmore missed an obvious follow up, "How energised are you for the future here?" Or "Whats your next goals with Saints?" Would have been interesting to hear his response as he is usually pretty honest. ----------- Redmond's Athletic interview today is interesting on Ralph, summing up most peoples feelings that we press but have little else in attack. I maintain NR was misunderstood and actually a good character who cared more than many players. Ah I see! Thanks for the insight. With regards to Redmond I always liked him and was a little disappointed when he left. He may not be that world beater but he was still decent, on his day had flashes of brilliance and was seen by the younger players as an authoritative figure in the dressing room, and one that was open and approachable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 Full Redmond article from the athletic here for those who are subscribers: https://theathletic.com/3757881/2022/11/06/nathan-redmond-southampton-besiktas-future/?source=user_shared_article Does sum up the way the fanbase seem to think about Ralph now. He came in and energised the whole club but his one dimensional tactics were found out and we’ve never been consistent as a result. Redmond talks about no attacking output from all that pressing and I think that’s a good benchmark for the players losing belief in the only tactic that’s worked well for Ralph. Ultimately Ralph has been a likeable character that has performed well with no budget but his ideas have run out and we are desperate for a fresh start with a new manager. In hindsight this should have been the summer, it has to be during this World Cup break to give a new manager time to implement his ideas during a mini pre season. It’s taken me a while to see it but it’s time to change. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 Ralph’s last home game? Will be interesting to see what he does at the full time whistle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 15 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Ralph’s last home game? Will be interesting to see what he does at the full time whistle. If we win (unlikely) he'll be on the pitch milking it for every last drop. If we lose (likely) he'll be down that tunnel as fast as he can go. If we draw (possible) his reaction will indeed be interesting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 4 hours ago, Harry_SFC said: His body language has been awful for a while now Same as his tactics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 44 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Ralph’s last home game? Will be interesting to see what he does at the full time whistle. If we win, he'll milk it like fuck. If we lose, he'll be straight down the tunnel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 11 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: If we win, he'll milk it like fuck. Will we see tears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 2 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Ah I see! Thanks for the insight. With regards to Redmond I always liked him and was a little disappointed when he left. He may not be that world beater but he was still decent, on his day had flashes of brilliance and was seen by the younger players as an authoritative figure in the dressing room, and one that was open and approachable. 'was seen by the younger players as an authoritative figure in the dressing room' How can you possibly know this? Are you the kit man? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 8 minutes ago, DT said: 'was seen by the younger players as an authoritative figure in the dressing room' How can you possibly know this? Are you the kit man? Redmond pretty much says he was that in The Athletic interview. Who knows all the players might all disagree but I'd doubt it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 How the actual fuck can he survive any longer..😡😡😡😡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 Enough is enough. He’s not inspiring this group, we’re far too easy to beat and no good ideas going forward. We HAVE to find someone new during the WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 Hope the board follow him out the door, they’re all to blame for this shambles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 There is absolutely no reason to wait until after the Liverpool game It will be incompetent from the Board if Ralph is not removed from post by lunch time tomorrow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 Trying to enjoy a holiday and get the 1-4 result pop up on my phone, and he’s still in the job, what the feck is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixedkebab Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 I fully agree with getting rid of the board as well, Semmens and co have been a disgrace in allowing Saints to decline so badly after the takeover. The feeling of malaise and negativity as down to them as well as the manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 One thing I have to say about the parlous position Saints find themselves in is that the team have generally put in a decent shift whenever I have seen them play. even if the end product has been so badly lacking for some time now. I have generally been a supporter of Ralph but to play Theo Walcott, who's general input was to run alongside opposing players, more or less convinced me that we do need a new Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintscummer Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 According to loads in social media. He has had the tin tack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 https://theathletic.com/3767785/2022/11/06/ralph-hasenhuttl-sacked-southampton/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 Right time to go. Done a lot of good over the past few years and I'll always like him for it, but we need change now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 I only saw from the end of the first half on. Newcastle took their chances. We had a few, missed them, and it took a clever bit of play from Perraud to score one. Being critical, AMN was a yard off to block a shot, they got one as we pushed up, and a better, more powerful keeper might have got a hand for the fourth. Subs made en masse, as if they come in attacking job lots, and Ralph was just making another frustrated point. Newcastle looked the better side by some distance. But had we taken our chances... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 https://twitter.com/TheAthleticFC/status/1589304137791012869?t=Vm5wheRBwjiYFrvzejOqYQ&s=19 It's happening 👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 He has to go now if all these reports are out he's getting sacked, would be completely unprofessional to keep him in now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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