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1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Name any other club with our record from the last twenty games that wouldn't be unhappy? The club wants us to accept mediocrity. 

I wouldn't say that our form and performances since the start of this year even qualify as 'mediocre'. 

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1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Name any other club with our record from the last twenty games that wouldn't be unhappy? The club wants us to accept mediocrity. 

This is the problem. Imo semmens position became untenable the moment we had the last fans forum and he said what he did. 
 

New owners were supposed to bring optimism. We were never going to be a city, Chelsea, Newcastle but there was hope we could ‘punch above our weight’ and be a Leicester (I.e us under poch Koeman etc.). 
 

Regardless of ambition of the club, performances and results for the past 30+ games are completely unacceptable. 

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9 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Name any other club with our record from the last twenty games that wouldn't be unhappy? The club wants us to accept mediocrity. 

I would happily accept mediocrity at the moment. It would be an improvement on what we have.

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6 hours ago, Chris cooper said:

A villa fan running a saints phone in debate .. Think 🤔 about that for a minute. 
twatmore shouldn’t have this position as a journalist at saints where he can influence more drips into thinking Southampton are a non ambitious football club …who’s fans are arrogant as to want better football.
Only at Southampton can we let this happen Ffs .. a villa fan telling saints fans wots best for their club ..

Fuck his two bob slot he’s got on radio fucking Solent !! I for one won’t ever tune into him on that station ever again . Not that I need to anyway cos normally at games.

sing the fat cunts name on Sunday and call the cunt out live so he can hear our disproval .. get out our club along with the bum bandits Ralph, semmens and Steele !! 😡

There's always one....

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10 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

I don't think he's stupid and he's been far from terrible for us - during the Gao years in particular he did a great job keeping us somewhat competitive. However, in the last year there have been little drips coming out in the media playing us down as a club which is really bugging me. His ultra-defensive tone in the recent fans' forum didn't sit particularly well with me either.

I appreciate that everyone becomes a scapegoat when we're having a bad time, but none of these people are immune to criticism right now.

Don't get me wrong, I don't expect us to start proclaiming we are going to get Top 4, challenge for the best players etc - I appreciate our place in the pecking order and I accept it, but as a club you still have to show ambition and a desire to push above the accepted norm. Everyone at the club right now seem perfectly happy with us finishing 17th and applauding it because ''we've done well to be here as long as we have''. With this attitude you encourage negativity in the fan base and an acceptance in the playing squad, which will eventually lead to a malaise around the club and an irreversible regression.

Yes, in business it's called a race to the bottom and that is what is happening with Saints.

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7 hours ago, Chris cooper said:

A villa fan running a saints phone in debate .. Think 🤔 about that for a minute. 
twatmore shouldn’t have this position as a journalist at saints where he can influence more drips into thinking Southampton are a non ambitious football club …who’s fans are arrogant as to want better football.
Only at Southampton can we let this happen Ffs .. a villa fan telling saints fans wots best for their club ..

Fuck his two bob slot he’s got on radio fucking Solent !! I for one won’t ever tune into him on that station ever again . Not that I need to anyway cos normally at games.

sing the fat cunts name on Sunday and call the cunt out live so he can hear our disproval .. get out our club along with the bum bandits Ralph, semmens and Steele !! 😡

Just to clarify, you are not too keen on Adam? I think that’s what you’re hinting at, but I wanted to be sure?

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11 hours ago, saint1977 said:

Blackmore, Semmens, Steele, Ralph - on a par with Branfoot for me with his ‘can’t live in same street’ comments after being humped 4-0 by Leeds. Get lost then and get lost now. If SR buy into that bullshit narrative they need to clear off as well. It’s Southampton Football Club they bought - Lawrie, Channon, Ball, Keegan, MLT, Pahars, Lambert, Mane, JWP - not Morecambe, or Exeter City. They’re small clubs, go and buy them instead.

Difference was that the Saints fans of 30 years had some backbone and drove Branfoot out, saving the club.

90 minutes of invective aimed at the manager, board and Blackmore (20k Saints fans singing ‘Adam Blackmore is a wanker’ is beyond any microphone to muffle) on Sunday would be a good start. Sod the game, Hammers will piss all over us anyway and without a change of manager there’s no more points coming. AB has shown total disrespect to the paying Southampton listening football supporting public tonight but the also fans need to respect themselves as we did 30 years ago and get these people out of our football environment. 

Won’t hold my breath though - current ‘fans’ rather clap the players off after a timid 0-3 defeat. Even 2006 and 2009 there was the protests against Lowe.

This all started with Gao taking over and that was Semmens involved there as well wasnt it? He’s supposed picked SR as owners yet pushed them under the bus tonight - or AB has in effect as the official mouthpiece - when it’s gone belly up, just like he did to Gao at fans forums. ‘It’s not our fault’. Pushed the fans under the bus and kicking STHs out of their seats for more leather padded, empty ones.

If you don’t like football interrupting your weekends, do something else for a living that’s 9-5, 5 days a week. Dragan is a mug for trusting him with his investment.

Club’s been dead really since 2017. Faceless, boring, corporate entity. Marching onto…mediocrity and the lower leagues. Because that’s where truly small clubs end up.

I am one of those fans of 30 years ago and incidentally one of those fans of 60 years ago and you are right, up with this we would not have put.

Nowadays, I protest in my own way by voting with my feet and will not be stepping into St Mary's again until this bunch of clowns have moved on

Blackmore has a voice and is in a position to be part of the solution but sadly has chosen to become part of the problem.

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1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Adam Blackmore September 2022

 

adam Blackmore October 2022

“Name a premier league squad worse than Saints”

full of it

This impacts credibility somewhat 🤣

Adam, who’s responsible for the bad squad? Is it only this year or is it all the years that Semmens has increased his power and influence over strategy? 

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13 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

Actually he couldn't be further from the truth. Scousers, manure, tottenham - now there's some arrogant fans. Saints fans? err no.

Man United fans have the worst mentality they simply can't cope with losing to city or the new bigger clubs than them! 

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10 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

It was our best transfer window since 2014, that doesn’t mean we don’t still have one of the weakest squads in the league. It was sh*te before, it’s better now, it’s still a long way off being competitive.

Rubbish. 
 

KWP, Salisu, Bella-Kotchap, Lavia, JWP (arguably) are all top 10 players. 

It’s yet to be seen how good the likes of CC & AMN are, but they come with a decent enough reputation to say they are solid enough PL players - along with the likes of Aribo, Stu Armstrong and Che (arguably). 

For me, the jury is out on the likes of Bazunu, Our LB’s, Odozie - all whom have potential but maybe not the consostenty to be considered solid PL players. 

In short, I’d say that at least 8 of our starting 11 are players who are comfortable mid-table premier league players. 
 

 

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14 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

It was our best transfer window since 2014, that doesn’t mean we don’t still have one of the weakest squads in the league. It was sh*te before, it’s better now, it’s still a long way off being competitive.

I think they was a distinct lack of folk saying this on September 1st, as it was being celebrated by some as a 8/10, 9/10 window and how wonderful Sports Republic are.

If that doesn't get us a better squad able to at least compete with 3 x promoted teams, Brentford, Brighton, Leeds and Palace then its an absolutely disasterous window.

But no one was saying that then. Quite the opposite.

It's a huge narrative shift in just a few weeks. 

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1 minute ago, CB Fry said:

I think they was a distinct lack of folk saying this on September 1st, as it was being celebrated by some as a 8/10, 9/10 window and how wonderful Sports Republic are.

If that doesn't get us a better squad able to at least compete with 3 x promoted teams, Brentford, Brighton, Leeds and Palace then its an absolutely disasterous window.

But no one was saying that then. Quite the opposite.

It's a huge narrative shift in just a few weeks. 

It’s because the likes of JWP, Stu Armstrong and Che have significantly regressed. 

We’ve not been able to get the best out of Adam Armstrong, ever. He literally come as nothing more than a decent goal scorer, he’s void of all confidence and now can’t even do that. 

Our back 4, especially CB’s are arguably the best since Fonte / VvD. Put it this way, a club of our size won’t get much better than JWP, Salisu, ABK, Perruad. 

“Far from competitive” is just a total load of shite. We had people arguing we had a stronger squad than Villa a year ago ffs. 

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1 hour ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

Actually he couldn't be further from the truth. Scousers, manure, tottenham - now there's some arrogant fans. Saints fans? err no.

All the Spurs fans I know are always down in the dumps about how sh1t their club is and how they'll never be a 'big' club and yes Liverpool and United are but they're not really "fans" are they? They just support the team that won everything when they got into football so of course they're going to be like that.

Saints fans demand: Entertaining football, wins, every youth player to be blooded and to go onto become the next Pele, to buy players that will stay with us until WE decide they're done and then sell them at a profit. Since about 2014, our fanbase has become incredibly arrogant.

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2 hours ago, Dman said:

Is that why you spent a few months under a different account trying to educate us on your superior football knowledge…? 
 

Ceilings, XG and management potential…

I don't even know what a ceiling is in this context and I barely know what XG is so I have no idea who you're implying I am or how you've come to this conclusion.

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8 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

One misplaced pass and it's moans and groans all round the stadium. I'm looking forward to The Championship, there's proper fans down there.

Same at every stadium in the country. Maybe you've never been to or watched a game.

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6 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

All the Spurs fans I know are always down in the dumps about how sh1t their club is and how they'll never be a 'big' club and yes Liverpool and United are but they're not really "fans" are they? They just support the team that won everything when they got into football so of course they're going to be like that.

Saints fans demand: Entertaining football, wins, every youth player to be blooded and to go onto become the next Pele, to buy players that will stay with us until WE decide they're done and then sell them at a profit. Since about 2014, our fanbase has become incredibly arrogant.

More rubbish.

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11 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

I think they was a distinct lack of folk saying this on September 1st, as it was being celebrated by some as a 8/10, 9/10 window and how wonderful Sports Republic are.

If that doesn't get us a better squad able to at least compete with 3 x promoted teams, Brentford, Brighton, Leeds and Palace then its an absolutely disasterous window.

But no one was saying that then. Quite the opposite.

It's a huge narrative shift in just a few weeks. 

IIRC correctly most we're over the moon. We'd got rid of the deadwood, Redmond, Stephens, Bednarek, Forster and replaced them with a load of young, hungry, guarenteed to improvers, which is what everyone had been demanding.  Bit of disappointment we hadn't got rid of Walcott, but other than that the only one people were sad to see go was Romeu, but even him many were saying was past it and his legs had gone. None of this "worst squad in the premier league" shite then. Like you say the narrative has hugely shifted in the last few weeks. 

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1 minute ago, saintant said:

Same at every stadium in the country. Maybe you've never been to or watched a game.

Except it isn't because I regularly go to my local team who are in League One and have had some hard times and crap players and it's not like that at all. They get behind their team regardless of what's happening on or off the pitch. Just like we used to at that level.

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4 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

All the Spurs fans I know are always down in the dumps about how sh1t their club is and how they'll never be a 'big' club and yes Liverpool and United are but they're not really "fans" are they? They just support the team that won everything when they got into football so of course they're going to be like that.

Saints fans demand: Entertaining football, wins, every youth player to be blooded and to go onto become the next Pele, to buy players that will stay with us until WE decide they're done and then sell them at a profit. Since about 2014, our fanbase has become incredibly arrogant.

Nope. Saints fans demand maximum effort every game, the odd win against one of the bigger sides, a certain level of entertaining football and a mentality of trying to go and win games rather than not losing. Largely it is accepted that we will be selling a selection of our best players every year. The ridiculous run of average or terrible performances- particularly at home- over the last few years has mostly been met with muted responses with the odd grumble or two and nothing like you are describing. Saints fans are entitled to a bit of positivity and talk of ambition from those in charge, not just emphasising how lucky we are to make up the numbers. Brighton do not currently have that mentality and it shows. No reason we shouldn't be doing that too.

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Just now, Bad Wolf said:

Except it isn't because I regularly go to my local team who are in League One and have had some hard times and crap players and it's not like that at all. They get behind their team regardless of what's happening on or off the pitch. Just like we used to at that level.

If you say so.

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9 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

All the Spurs fans I know are always down in the dumps about how sh1t their club is and how they'll never be a 'big' club and yes Liverpool and United are but they're not really "fans" are they? They just support the team that won everything when they got into football so of course they're going to be like that.

Saints fans demand: Entertaining football, wins, every youth player to be blooded and to go onto become the next Pele, to buy players that will stay with us until WE decide they're done and then sell them at a profit. Since about 2014, our fanbase has become incredibly arrogant.

I don't know who you are but please can stop posting absolute horseshit like this.

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16 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

I think they was a distinct lack of folk saying this on September 1st, as it was being celebrated by some as a 8/10, 9/10 window and how wonderful Sports Republic are.

If that doesn't get us a better squad able to at least compete with 3 x promoted teams, Brentford, Brighton, Leeds and Palace then its an absolutely disasterous window.

But no one was saying that then. Quite the opposite.

It's a huge narrative shift in just a few weeks. 

I agree. I was saying what a disaster it was that we hadn't strengthened the attack and got slated. 

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2 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

Except it isn't because I regularly go to my local team who are in League One and have had some hard times and crap players and it's not like that at all. They get behind their team regardless of what's happening on or off the pitch. Just like we used to at that level.

We were successful in league one. If we had loads of seasons in league one playing shit for the vast majority of the season, you can bet we would have the exact same reactions. 

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4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

We were successful in league one. If we had loads of seasons in league one playing shit for the vast majority of the season, you can bet we would have the exact same reactions. 

We wern't at first.

And I seem to remember our fans getting behind the team and spurring them on all through the 'dark days' of administration etc. When we were ACTUALLY bad.

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1 minute ago, Bad Wolf said:

We wern't at first.

And I seem to remember our fans getting behind the team and spurring them on all through the 'dark days' of administration etc. When we were ACTUALLY bad.

I seem to remember Lowe getting absolute pelters when we got relegated from the championship. I had a season ticket that year and the atmosphere was toxic on a number of occasions. Forest away when we were already down was superb but that was gallows humour more than anything rather than a desire to support a failing club. I don't think much has changed, any supporters of any club would be having the same reaction given our results and more importantly our performances over the past year.

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22 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

I think they was a distinct lack of folk saying this on September 1st, as it was being celebrated by some as a 8/10, 9/10 window and how wonderful Sports Republic are.

If that doesn't get us a better squad able to at least compete with 3 x promoted teams, Brentford, Brighton, Leeds and Palace then its an absolutely disastrous window.

But no one was saying that then. Quite the opposite.

It's a huge narrative shift in just a few weeks. 

I said that at the time because I think we did as well as we could with the money we had available. Clearly SR are not super rich and will be spending modestly. The players we've signed look promising but most of them have yet to deliver, so the jury is out. I think we were right to try what we did, rather than sign a bunch more Armstrongs and Mois, which realistically is what we can afford.

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6 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I said that at the time because I think we did as well as we could with the money we had available. Clearly SR are not super rich and will be spending modestly. The players we've signed look promising but most of them have yet to deliver, so the jury is out. I think we were right to try what we did, rather than sign a bunch more Armstrongs and Mois, which realistically is what we can afford.

Who of the players we’ve signed and start, do you not think are good enough to be competitive?

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2 hours ago, Turkish said:

Adam Blackmore September 2022

 

adam Blackmore October 2022

“Name a premier league squad worse than Saints”

full of it

Just to play my devil's advocate card briefly.... how do we know Blackmore didn't say that just to drum up reaction and/or calls to his radio show? 

"Radio host in saying something provocative to raise heckles and wind-up listeners shocker" kinda thing....?

(I'm not saying this is what he was up to, just wondering if it can be ruled out as blatent 'WUMery'...)

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7 minutes ago, Dman said:

Who of the players we’ve signed and start, do you not think are good enough to be competitive?

ABK and Lavia are both clearly decent. In the four games both have played, we have seven points. The rest we’re going to need to be patient with, although Baz and Aribo have shown intermittent positive moments.

7 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I seem to remember you said it wasn't right to criticise the club for not bringing in a striker because we had brought in Mara...

We did bring in a striker. I’d have liked another but we did bring in Mara however you try and dress it up.

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1 minute ago, Lighthouse said:

ABK and Lavia are both clearly decent. In the four games both have played, we have seven points. The rest we’re going to need to be patient with, although Baz and Aribo have shown intermittent positive moments.

We did bring in a striker. I’d have liked another but we did bring in Mara however you try and dress it up.

It wasn't enough. He wasn't the Broja replacement that was required and it was obvious at the time that it wasn't going to be enough. Subsequent events have proven that view correct. 

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12 minutes ago, Tom & Gerry said:

Isn't it the job of a phone in presenter to provoke a response from his listeners?

Seems AB did a pretty good job.

 

6 minutes ago, trousers said:

Just to play my devil's advocate card briefly.... how do we know Blackmore didn't say that just to drum up reaction and/or calls to his radio show? 

"Radio host in saying something provocative to raise heckles and wind-up listeners shocker" kinda thing....?

(I'm not saying this is what he was up to, just wondering if it can be ruled out as blatent 'WUMery'...)

Ha... "great minds...." :)

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Just now, hypochondriac said:

It wasn't enough. He wasn't the Broja replacement that was required and it was obvious at the time that it wasn't going to be enough. Subsequent events have proven that view correct. 

To be fair, we clearly tried and got played / fucked around by the agent / club of that lad at PSV. From what I’ve seen, he certainly appears to have been the missing link. 
 

That being said, I think the fact we no longer have an Ings or Broja, it goes to show that Ralph’s good runs we’re basically off the back of a top quality striker rather than his own performance. 

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5 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

ABK and Lavia are both clearly decent. In the four games both have played, we have seven points. The rest we’re going to need to be patient with, although Baz and Aribo have shown intermittent positive moments.

We did bring in a striker. I’d have liked another but we did bring in Mara however you try and dress it up.

So the 4 that actually start are competitive, those who don’t (the really young ones) aren’t there just yet… shock horror. 
 

The biggest issue here is that previous solid performers l, JWP, Stu, Che have all significantly regressed. 

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16 minutes ago, trousers said:

Just to play my devil's advocate card briefly.... how do we know Blackmore didn't say that just to drum up reaction and/or calls to his radio show? 

"Radio host in saying something provocative to raise heckles and wind-up listeners shocker" kinda thing....?

(I'm not saying this is what he was up to, just wondering if it can be ruled out as blatent 'WUMery'...)

I've now listened to his show last night and it's obvious that is what he's doing. I do think that is his view to some extent but he's clearly exaggerated things to provoke responses. I'm not sure he's going to endear himself to fans with that tactic. 

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7 minutes ago, Dman said:

That being said, I think the fact we no longer have an Ings or Broja, it goes to show that Ralph’s good runs we’re basically off the back of a top quality striker rather than his own performance. 

Yeah, those six goals really flattered Ralph. Nobody else in the league has a striker who can do that.

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