Ralph Hasenhuttl

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

I'm really not sure what else Ralph has to do to get the sack? Appalling performances by the team and as someone else said, I have got to the stage where I'm not even bothered as I'm so used to losing and the anaemic passionless displays every week. 

How on earth is he still here?

[alehouseboys]

This needs decisive action, hopefully they're just not negotiating a severance deal and each waiting for other's knees to buckle. Good timing for the 'new manager bounce' with a couple of winnable games with a fresh approach.

[saint1977]

13 minutes ago, alehouseboys said:

This needs decisive action, hopefully they're just not negotiating a severance deal and each waiting for other's knees to buckle. Good timing for the 'new manager bounce' with a couple of winnable games with a fresh approach.

‘Decisive action’ - not really what SFC does is it? SR seem more like Les Reed by the day, clearly the squad and manager don’t get on at all but have a good dither whilst the players don’t move a leg, as happened with Pellegrino. Meanwhile their CEO and Head of Ops continue to antagonise the core supporters who they will need next season in the Championship. Don’t even get me started on the striker situation. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[Turkish]

12 points from the last 21 games, 3 wins in 21

On course to finish the season on 21 points. 
 

the awful was sacked with 15 points from his last 21 games 

[Dman]

16 minutes ago, Turkish said:

12 points from the last 21 games, 3 wins in 21

On course to finish the season on 21 points. 
 

the awful was sacked with 15 points from his last 21 games 

He’s not had enough time and this isn’t his squad!!!!

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

19 minutes ago, Dman said:

He’s not had enough time and this isn’t his squad!!!!

Also 0-4 at City is actually a "win" of sorts.. Could have been so much worse!

[Mr X]

16 minutes ago, alehouseboys said:

This needs decisive action, hopefully they're just not negotiating a severance deal and each waiting for other's knees to buckle. Good timing for the 'new manager bounce' with a couple of winnable games with a fresh approach.

Whoever comes in isn't going to be able to perform miracles on a team where we have little experience and some of the older players we do have are past it or not performing, something has to be done though as we are in certain relegation form at the moment! They should however at least get some positivity back to the club and get us hard to beat, Keeping us up will be a huge challenge and who's going to want to come for a relegation battle? 

[alehouseboys]

11 minutes ago, Mr X said:

Whoever comes in isn't going to be able to perform miracles on a team where we have little experience and some of the older players we do have are past it or not performing, something has to be done though as we are in certain relegation form at the moment! They should however at least get some positivity back to the club and get us hard to beat, Keeping us up will be a huge challenge and who's going to want to come for a relegation battle? 

I'm certainly not expecting miracles but I would expect the place to get a lift of sorts and I'd still be more hopeful of picking up points with a new face (caretaker of otherwise) calling the shots. Lavia (and Tino) back soon should make a difference but this is still basically the same squad that was capable of this a few weeks back. 

 

[Mr X]

15 minutes ago, alehouseboys said:

I'm certainly not expecting miracles but I would expect the place to get a lift of sorts and I'd still be more hopeful of picking up points with a new face (caretaker of otherwise) calling the shots. Lavia (and Tino) back soon should make a difference but this is still basically the same squad that was capable of this a few weeks back. 

 

True we are capable of the odd good performance but it's far and few between, we need to adopt a style and approach that brings more consistency.

I hope they do make the announcement Monday that enough is enough 

[Daft Kerplunk]

2 hours ago, saint1977 said:

‘Decisive action’ - not really what SFC does is it? SR seem more like Les Reed by the day, clearly the squad and manager don’t get on at all but have a good dither whilst the players don’t move a leg, as happened with Pellegrino. Meanwhile their CEO and Head of Ops continue to antagonise the core supporters who they will need next season in the Championship. Don’t even get me started on the striker situation. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

All the people at the club at the top now were there when Les was there so they’re just being consistent. 

It’ll be Tim Greenwell, the director of risk and legal who’s deciding on shutting Block 1 as well. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

From the Beeb gossip page, taken from the mail.

Southampton manager Ralph Hasenhuttl's position is uncertain and the south coast club are looking at former RB Leipzig manager Domenico Tedesco and Manchester City assistant boss Enzo Maresca as possible candidates to replace the Austrian. (Mail)

 

[FarehamSaintJames]

Just now, Holmes_and_Watson said:

From the Beeb gossip page, taken from the mail.

Southampton manager Ralph Hasenhuttl's position is uncertain and the south coast club are looking at former RB Leipzig manager Domenico Tedesco and Manchester City assistant boss Enzo Maresca as possible candidates to replace the Austrian. (Mail)

 

Lost interest at "The Mail" 😂

[Holmes_and_Watson]

6 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Lost interest at "The Mail" 😂

🙂 I felt it was a waste of a copy and paste when I noticed where it came from, only as I was doing it. 🙂

[Dorchester Saint]

12 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Lost interest at "The Mail" 😂

This Mail?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6456699/amp/Ralph-Hasenhuttl-set-appointed-Southamptons-new-manager.html

[Master Bates]

4 hours ago, Saint Billy said:

Perhaps SR are waiting for Brendan Rodgers to be sacked. 

Stevie Gerrard...

[CB Fry]

Based entirely on Wikipedia, I think Tedesco sounds like quite a good candidate.

Edited 9 October, 2022 by CB Fry

[Saint86]

4 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Here's hoping.

The players look so dejected. Watched the highlights and there is no one who wants to take the game by the scruff of the neck and fight back. It's just heads down and back to the half way line

I personally don't hope we lose just so he can be sacked. 

4 hours ago, Saint Billy said:

Perhaps SR are waiting for Brendan Rodgers to be sacked. 

Heard a couple of weeks ago that we were waiting for a Premier league manager to become available... If true it was unlikely to be someone like Frank becuase he is in zero danger.

If it wasn't Cooper, it could well be bodgers.

Could also have been lampard or gerrard I guess. Given our players, I actually think lampard would have been a good fit... But no chance now. 

I actually think it's irrelevant who we get atm. Without lavia and romeu we have no midfield anchor, and we don't have good enough creative attacker's / strikers to seriously threaten. Our defence is fairly good, but we don't carry a meaningful threat which means teams can punish us without too much concern. Any manager is going to struggle to keep us up with this squad. 

Edited 9 October, 2022 by Saint86

[FarehamSaintJames]

Just now, Saint86 said:

 

 

Heard a couple of weeks ago that we were waiting for a Premier league manager to become available...

If it wasn't Cooper, it could well be bodgers. 

Both would've been an upgrade. Both now not available, or very unlikely to be. Or interested for that matter.

[Ted Bates Statue]

1 hour ago, Dorchester Saint said:

This Mail?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6456699/amp/Ralph-Hasenhuttl-set-appointed-Southamptons-new-manager.html

Article written on the day he was officially confirmed, after weeks of ITK discussion on here, no less. Tedesco is an out of work manager, formerly of Red Bull. Again, mentioned on here first but it doesn't take a genius to link his name. Only time will tell whether he is a genuine candidate. We have less inside information these days.

[Saint NL]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

Based entirely on Wikipedia, I think Tedesco sounds like quite a good candidate.

At least it'll be easy for the meme creators to come up with something based on Ted Lasso.

[Wurzel]

Things now look so bad I'd happily move for Gerrard or Lampard. Not as manager obviously, but even at their age either of them should strengthen our midfield and probably end the season as top scorer as well.

[OttawaSaint]

FFS SR pull the plug. All this shilly shallying just makes it more difficult for the new guy to catch us up.

Edited 9 October, 2022 by OttawaSaint

[niceandfriendly]

Without knowing anything except what I read on Wiki, Tedesco seems an interesting choice. Took Schalke to 2nd place (they're struggling again this season after getting promotion last season) and he won the DFB Pokal with Leipzig. He'll do.

[SaintLondon]

A few people on Twitter saying it’s done and it’ll be announced in next 24-48 hours. Sounds speculative at best but we shall see.  I often wonder whether fan discontent plays any part of the upper echelons decision making. Over the years there have always been RalphOut people but equally at least (seemingly) half the fan base were still staunchly RalphIN. This has now changed so much (that I can see) to 80:20 Ralph Out - I wonder if this contributes to speeding up any decisions.

I like the bloke but I think his time is up and you don’t, well shouldn’t get paid a reported £6m a year for being a nice bloke. If that were the case I’d be in line for a salary reduction 😏

[kwsaint]

Time for another poll?

[OttawaSaint]

Palace and WHU winning...slipping down the league, pull the plug on RH please

[Pamplemousse]

7 minutes ago, kwsaint said:

Time for another poll?

Yeah I'd change my vote now

[SaintZamboni]

1 hour ago, niceandfriendly said:

Without knowing anything except what I read on Wiki, Tedesco seems an interesting choice. Took Schalke to 2nd place (they're struggling again this season after getting promotion last season) and he won the DFB Pokal with Leipzig. He'll do.

I posted a link in the new manager thread about his tactics. I thought it was an interesting insight. Made schalke hard to beat by using a low press in some games but a high press in others. Would hopefully only require some tweaking of the current tactics (I know we don’t really play the press at the moment) and his 3 at the back with wing backs may suit our squad better.

[Toussaint]

1 hour ago, SaintLondon said:

A few people on Twitter saying it’s done and it’ll be announced in next 24-48 hours. Sounds speculative at best but we shall see.  I often wonder whether fan discontent plays any part of the upper echelons decision making. Over the years there have always been RalphOut people but equally at least (seemingly) half the fan base were still staunchly RalphIN. This has now changed so much (that I can see) to 80:20 Ralph Out - I wonder if this contributes to speeding up any decisions.

I like the bloke but I think his time is up and you don’t, well shouldn’t get paid a reported £6m a year for being a nice bloke. If that were the case I’d be in line for a salary reduction 😏

You may have a point, social media has influenced huge political  decisions over the last two or three years ,  so it seems a logical conclusion that the club do use this site and other social media sites as a barometer of supporters mood.

Edited 9 October, 2022 by Toussaint

[Daft Kerplunk]

The club might be influenced in some way by social media and the view of fans, but the reasons fans get restless is because they can see through the bullshit and have an appreciation of what they see on the pitch. For the overwhelming majority of this year, we’ve been really bad. Social media is just reflecting reality. No saints fam wanted to see Ralph in this predicament but we are where we are. SR are going to have to be the ones to do it though as the board are too attached to Ralph, and don’t have a problem with him despite the continued losses and apparent lack of man management and motivational skills. 

[View From The Top]

1 hour ago, SaintLondon said:

A few people on Twitter saying it’s done and it’ll be announced in next 24-48 hours. Sounds speculative at best but we shall see.  I often wonder whether fan discontent plays any part of the upper echelons decision making. Over the years there have always been RalphOut people but equally at least (seemingly) half the fan base were still staunchly RalphIN. This has now changed so much (that I can see) to 80:20 Ralph Out - I wonder if this contributes to speeding up any decisions.

I like the bloke but I think his time is up and you don’t, well shouldn’t get paid a reported £6m a year for being a nice bloke. If that were the case I’d be in line for a salary reduction 😏

Little doubt that there has been a definite shift towards "replacement".

I think most of us really wanted Ralph to succeed and that many many blinkered.

Those blinkers have fallen away in recent weeks and now it is clear nothing changes unless the manager is changed.

[Saintscummer]

For me this isn’t all about Ralph. It’s about addressing an horrendous run of games. We just need a change of direction and energy. I actually like the fact that SR are taking their time trying to get the right person in place. That’s assuming they are, because if they are not then it is very alarming. 
 

Sunday will be strange as if we win then this could drag on for another month. I want change but I also want us to win. I’m guessing that the fans will give everything in a big way on Sunday but as soon as something goes wrong they will turn quickly. 
 

Ralph’s personality has bought him 10 extra games than most would of got. Lose Sunday though and things could get nasty if there is not imminent change. 

[Dman]

43 minutes ago, View From The Top said:

Little doubt that there has been a definite shift towards "replacement".

I think most of us really wanted Ralph to succeed and that many many blinkered.

Those blinkers have fallen away in recent weeks and now it is clear nothing changes unless the manager is changed.

A name I’ve not seen on here in a while! 

IIRC, you had a few loose connections in the past, heard anything about Ralph / his replacement? 

[AlexLaw76]

The form produced over what is nearing on a season's worth of games, is utterly appalling.

I wish him all the best but the longer this goes on, the more his time here will be soured, sadly

[Dorchester Saint]

Perhaps we’re holding out to snatch Klopp when the dippers sack him?!

 

(I’m joking ffs) 

[Winnersaint]

Comes across as a decent fella, but that doesn't excuse his record which is lamentable. Should have gone after either of 9-0s as I feel those marked a change to a more cautious Ralph, and it hasn't worked out either in points or in spectacle. Using a political analogy he is becoming as toxic to the fanbase as Truss is the Tories.

[celezte_]

Why isn't anyone mentioning Sean dyche as a replacement, rules with an iron fist which I think we need, proven in the prem and can be brought in immediately, no brainer surely? 

[DT]

We have been here before, dilly dallying. Not good. 

[Dusic]

25 minutes ago, celezte_ said:

Why isn't anyone mentioning Sean dyche as a replacement, rules with an iron fist which I think we need, proven in the prem and can be brought in immediately, no brainer surely? 

Simply because they will, rightly, be recruiting a manager to fit the club philosophy. A manager who is good at developing young players - as our clearly stated model is to buy this profile of player.

Dyche usually had the oldest squad in the league at Burnley and doesn't fit what the job spec will be from a playing style perspective either.

He is a good manager and will be interesting to see where he ends up next but it clearly won't be at St Mary's.

Howe looks a bit like the obvious one that got away.

[Bad Wolf]

I'm really scared that we're waiting for Rodgers to get sacked....

[Bad Wolf]

15 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Simply because they will, rightly, be recruiting a manager to fit the club philosophy. A manager who is good at developing young players - as our clearly stated model is to buy this profile of player.

Dyche usually had the oldest squad in the league at Burnley and doesn't fit what the job spec will be from a playing style perspective either.

He is a good manager and will be interesting to see where he ends up next but it clearly won't be at St Mary's.

Howe looks a bit like the obvious one that got away.

And thank goodness for that. Absolute fraud of a manager and very unlikable person. Don't buy his "Mr Nice Guy" act.

[Convict Colony]

We either need a manager who makes us hard to beat with young players or makes us score goals with them.

At the moment we aren't doing either.

 

 

 

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, Bad Wolf said:

And thank goodness for that. Absolute fraud of a manager and very unlikable person. Don't buy his "Mr Nice Guy" act.

Agree. he was crap at Bournemouth because he didn’t know how to spend money now he’s only doing well at Newcastle because he’s got loads of money. 

[alehouseboys]

6 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Howe looks a bit like the obvious one that got away.

He's doing a good job up there but I bet the Saudi owners still have a desire to see a big name in place up there eventually. And I could see why he'd fit the profile and possibly be the type in the sights of SR. Incidentally, he's already been linked as a replacement for Southgate but ruled it out so sees his future as a club manager (down south?).

[AlexLaw76]

8 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Agree. he was crap at Bournemouth because he didn’t know how to spend money now he’s only doing well at Newcastle because he’s got loads of money. 

I love the snobbery on this place.  Howe is well in the pot on this front

Edited 9 October, 2022 by AlexLaw76

[Bad Wolf]

6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Agree. he was crap at Bournemouth because he didn’t know how to spend money now he’s only doing well at Newcastle because he’s got loads of money. 

He has all the integrity of an autistic hyena.

Remember the time that he begged to leave Bournemouth to join Palace then when they went for someone else, he publicly affirmed his loyalty to Bournemouth and promised he wouldn't go anywhere. Three days later, Burnley sacked their manager and he was begging to go again. Which he did and is regarded by Burnley fans as an absolute flop. Of course, the media don't like you remembering that about him because it doesn't fit their "Cinderella story" agenda when it comes to Howe.

[Harry_SFC]

If Howe was available I'd 100% take him. 

[SaintsLoyal]

When the club/owner is behind the sacking media story... he cant be that daft not to realise. 

[Turkish]

28 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

He has all the integrity of an autistic hyena.

Remember the time that he begged to leave Bournemouth to join Palace then when they went for someone else, he publicly affirmed his loyalty to Bournemouth and promised he wouldn't go anywhere. Three days later, Burnley sacked their manager and he was begging to go again. Which he did and is regarded by Burnley fans as an absolute flop. Of course, the media don't like you remembering that about him because it doesn't fit their "Cinderella story" agenda when it comes to Howe.

The really don’t think the media are that interested in Eddie frigging Howe

[Turkish]

32 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I love the snobbery on this place.  Howe is well in the pot on this front

It wasn’t that long ago that winning the league cup was beneath us. Dinlows on here not bothered about it in case it distracts us from our champions league ambitions 🤣🤣