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9 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

I totally agree with you up to a point. I don’t think that some people think that “huge success” is just a manager away, but I do think that many have unrealistic expectations for a club of our resources and size. Being an average, mid table club for us season after season with good cup runs is not an unreasonable expectation. To be playing regularly in what we are told is the best league in the world is no mean feat for an average sized club. There are plenty of clubs like us who have been languishing in the lower leagues for years.

What a load of old pony…..

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23 hours ago, Daft Kerplunk said:

Saints apparently had a target to finish between 7th and 12th each season. By that measure, he has, and is failing. I suspect that there are many managers who would love to be paid £6 million a year for that. 

Really?  During Gao's ownership the expectation was 7th to 12th?  Are you sure you aren't missing a 'one' and it was really 17th to 12th?

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13 hours ago, John D said:

If SR are starting to take a greater role then that is their right.  Can't be a a power struggle as they own the club.  If Semmens is being marginalised then I suspect he will follow Ralph out the door. 

They own 80%. Power struggle may or may not be the right word, but it definitely seems to be becoming factionalised. My reading of this weeks leaks is the new broom, person or persons involved in SR, want him gone, the old guard don’t. There are some very pointed comments in those “statements” All speculation I know, but in the absence of official statements it’s all we have. Incidentally, have you listened to Blackmore’s piece?

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On 05/10/2022 at 09:33, Lighthouse said:

If you want to turn a lower midtable team into anything other than mediocrity, you’re going to need to chuck some obscene money at it. The Arabian gulf states are your best bet because they’re more interested in the prestige and exposure than making a profit. 

I think mediocrity would be an improvement on the last 20 games. Personally I don’t have great expectations or ambitions, a few more goals, home wins, the odd cup run would be nice. Most importantly I’d like us to regain our spirit and identity, that seems to have vanished throughout the club, we have so bland, soulless and corporate now. 

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He's had almost four years and one good run aside it's been mediocre at best and absolutely terrible at worst! Aka the villa game and numerous others.  In four years he has chopped and changed the team so much doesn't know who the best starters are (I know this season we have lots of new signings) continues to pursue tactics and team selections that don't work and then tells the fans the bad performances we witness are actually good ones!.

I just feel we need someone now and the time is right someone with fresh ideas, ideas that can generate that spark again in the new signings and bit of buzz around the club which it has severely lacked for at least two years, I am grateful for his time and efforts here and we did have a few highs along the way but at the end of the day he may not say it but he knows he is the luckiest manager ever to still be in a job! 

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1 hour ago, Toussaint said:

They own 80%. Power struggle may or may not be the right word, but it definitely seems to be becoming factionalised. My reading of this weeks leaks is the new broom, person or persons involved in SR, want him gone, the old guard don’t. There are some very pointed comments in those “statements” All speculation I know, but in the absence of official statements it’s all we have. Incidentally, have you listened to Blackmore’s piece?

Surely the 80% run the club how they want?

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3 hours ago, Toussaint said:

They own 80%. Power struggle may or may not be the right word, but it definitely seems to be becoming factionalised. My reading of this weeks leaks is the new broom, person or persons involved in SR, want him gone, the old guard don’t. There are some very pointed comments in those “statements” All speculation I know, but in the absence of official statements it’s all we have. Incidentally, have you listened to Blackmore’s piece?

They own 80% the other 20% is owned by a women who inherited the club and has 0 interest in football. 
 

Ultimatley, it’s SR funding the club, they absolutely should have the definitive say in if he stays or goes as it’s their asset. 
 

If the old guard don’t like it, then they can leave. 

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6 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Fucking blokes a fraud….

Any chance you could continue to post this line every day for the foreseeable future, just in case someone missed it the first 372 times? Cheers me ol' mucker.

P.s. bloke's not blokes

;)

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I think we need to resist a completely hasty knee jerk reaction to a total one-off single defeat against the richest biggest club in the whole world.

 

There you go twats, I've saved you the bother of typing it.

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40 minutes ago, Østerrike said:

Ralph has had a few years at the club, its true that this might be his last game...

 

Sadly, Mr. X, all you can contribute to the discussion is trolling around while posting improper topic.

Jeeze lighten up 

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We so badly need a striker. All our good form under Ralph has been when he's got someone who can be relied on to finish chances - be it ings, or Broja last year.

SR are seriously guilty in that regard.

Instead we've got a manager thats been roasted over the coals for attacking in the past (and suffering the odd bad loss), and so has resorted to defensive boring football, with no identty, and seemingly no confidence in anything anymore. Ralph has been good for us, but this does now seem like the end of the line - both with the fans and the players. Its just not working and its going on for too long.

But I certainly have my doubts than anyone else will keep us up with no decent strikers and no CDM.

West Ham at home is now a massive game for the club. Really need to win that.

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I'm done.

We would not be a Premier League team without him. Same as Nigel Adkins I guess; both should get the same amount of respect as and when they return to SMS

But it's time for some new ideas. Get someone in on Monday (NOT SELLES, not a caretaker, someone permanent) and let's kick on

 

Bournemouth are 8th in the league!!! And we're far better than them

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Sports Republic are going to look incredibly clueless if they leave Ralph in charge for another game.

Leaving him in charge would be like asking Jeffrey Dahmer to look after your gay brother.  
You just know what will happen….

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I’ve been in the Ralph out camp (reluctantly) for a few months now so obviously want him reply, but I’m confused why people think today will change anything. 
We were always going to lose badly today.

 

 I can’t see anything happening this week; think we’re either hanging on until the World Cup, or until we sort the replacement out in the background 

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2 minutes ago, Chewy said:

I’ve been in the Ralph out camp (reluctantly) for a few months now so obviously want him reply, but I’m confused why people think today will change anything. 
We were always going to lose badly today.

 

 I can’t see anything happening this week; think we’re either hanging on until the World Cup, or until we sort the replacement out in the background 

Not to repeat other threads but…….Look at the performance and not the result.

We we’re never going to win this game; it’s how the team stands up to adversity that counts. Our lot folded today. Compare that performance to other better games under Ralph’s tenure at top sides away (including drawing away at Man City). This was nowhere near that, we were utterly abject all over the park and looked a complete shambles. The players are culpable but the lack of team spirit and organisation suggests a much bigger problem.

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As things stand we are not better than Bournemouth and it makes me very angry to have to admit to that conclusion. They have an ex Portsmouth caretaker boss, who has done an amazing job to stablelize things since their Liverpool humiliation. If we are not careful we will lose there in 10 days time and that really would be one of the hardest ever results to take in nearly 60 years of supporting the club.  

 For RH to still be here after tuesday week, we need to pick up a minimum of 4 points from our next 2 games, as things stand cannot see that happening . He has to go either way.

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Stating the obvious but assuming we aren't interested in any caretaker manager nonsense then its either a decision in the next couple of days or Ralph stays for West Ham, Bmth and Arsenal surely due to the tight turnaround.

SR and Ankersen especially are not stupid, they will be lining something up in the background. Its probably a case of timing and also they need the right person for a 2/3 yr period not just an emergency 6 month appointment.

Whatever happens hopefully its done quickly and respectfully as Ralph deserves that and it would be a shame to see the stadium turn on him in a very public way after the graft he has undoubtedly put in.

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2 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Stating the obvious but assuming we aren't interested in any caretaker manager nonsense then its either a decision in the next couple of days or Ralph stays for West Ham, Bmth and Arsenal surely due to the tight turnaround.

SR and Ankersen especially are not stupid, they will be lining something up in the background. Its probably a case of timing and also they need the right person for a 2/3 yr period not just an emergency 6 month appointment.

Whatever happens hopefully its done quickly and respectfully as Ralph deserves that and it would be a shame to see the stadium turn on him in a very public way after the graft he has undoubtedly put in.

Andersen and co will be stupid if they haven’t already lined someone up.

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29 minutes ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said:

Maybe it's time to start with the Ralph out chants? Make it clear to the board, we want him gone. I know some will say that will impact negatively on the players during the game but to that I say, would we notice???

That needed to start in April tbh, but yes. Can’t see it though, the sheep didn’t even do it for Pellegrino, our fanbase has none of the cojonoes of the Branfoot era, SMS would probably give Ian a standing ovation these days. Then again, if anyone did sing about Ralph going they’d probably be banned for showing some passion and parts of the Northam and Kingsland shut as a result. 

Some ironic oles for the players when they manage to string a couple of players wouldn't do any harm, let them know they don’t put 100% in and at least press/tackle/run it’s going to get toxic for them. 

SR don’t seem engaged much at all - Semmens and Steele are destroying what relationship remains with the fans and ditto Ralph on the pitch on their watch. If it was my investment I’d be a lot more proactive in freshening things up after the coaching clear out has failed but it isn’t so there you go.

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7 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Stating the obvious but assuming we aren't interested in any caretaker manager nonsense then its either a decision in the next couple of days or Ralph stays for West Ham, Bmth and Arsenal surely due to the tight turnaround.

SR and Ankersen especially are not stupid, they will be lining something up in the background. Its probably a case of timing and also they need the right person for a 2/3 yr period not just an emergency 6 month appointment.

Whatever happens hopefully its done quickly and respectfully as Ralph deserves that and it would be a shame to see the stadium turn on him in a very public way after the graft he has undoubtedly put in.

Yep it's either they pull the trigger now or wait until after the Arsenal game. 

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1 minute ago, saint1977 said:

That needed to start in April tbh, but yes. Can’t see it though, the sheep didn’t even do it for Pellegrino, our fanbase has none of the cojonoes of the Branfoot era, SMS would probably give Ian a standing ovation these days. Then again, if anyone did sing about Ralph going they’d probably be banned for showing some passion and parts of the Northam and Kingsland shut as a result. 

Some ironic oles for the players when they manage to string a couple of players wouldn't do any harm, let them know they don’t put 100% in and at least press/tackle/run it’s going to get toxic for them. 

SR don’t seem engaged much at all - Semmens and Steele are destroying what relationship remains with the fans and ditto Ralph on the pitch on their watch. If it was my investment I’d be a lot more proactive in freshening things up after the coaching clear out has failed but it isn’t so there you go.

I hope semmens goes along with the manager something off about him at the fans forum 

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21 minutes ago, Andrew Watson said:

As things stand we are not better than Bournemouth and it makes me very angry to have to admit to that conclusion. They have an ex Portsmouth caretaker boss, who has done an amazing job to stablelize things since their Liverpool humiliation. If we are not careful we will lose there in 10 days time and that really would be one of the hardest ever results to take in nearly 60 years of supporting the club.  

 For RH to still be here after tuesday week, we need to pick up a minimum of 4 points from our next 2 games, as things stand cannot see that happening . He has to go either way.

If Ralph remains in charge there is every chance we'll lose to West Ham at home and Bournemouth away is almost a given. The bloke is completely shot and every game he remains in charge is another nail in our coffin. I had high hopes of SR as they seemed to have good ideas and some clever people but now I'm beginning to wonder. I can't believe Dragan is happy to see his investment squandered like this. Surely he'll step in and insist this mess is sorted.

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18 minutes ago, Mr X said:

I hope semmens goes along with the manager something off about him at the fans forum 

Agreed.

It was not comfortable viewing. Very strange attitude and comments.

As stated by plenty: SR seem to be no mugs. I'm sure they have plans.

 

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1 hour ago, Pamplemousse said:

I'm done.

We would not be a Premier League team without him. Same as Nigel Adkins I guess; both should get the same amount of respect as and when they return to SMS

But it's time for some new ideas. Get someone in on Monday (NOT SELLES, not a caretaker, someone permanent) and let's kick on

 

Bournemouth are 8th in the league!!! And we're far better than them

What better where on paper?.............sadly the game we know is played on the field and sorry to say very disappointing at the lack of goal threat.

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If he stays in place and then we sack him after West Ham, we will have wasted another game we could have got something from and my opinion of Sports Republic would have nosedived. There is a point where loyalty goes from being a strength to a serious weakness and we have reached that point now. Ralph is going to be leaving soon, it's just a question of when. It needs to be now. 

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Just now, hypochondriac said:

If he stays in place and then we sack him after West Ham, we will have wasted another game we could have got something from and my opinion of Sports Republic would have nosedived. There is a point where loyalty goes from being a strength to a serious weakness and we have reached that point now. Ralph is going to be leaving soon, it's just a question of when. It needs to be now. 

Yep, he should go now, otherwise there’s a fair chance there’s no one in place for Bournemouth and arsenal 

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1 hour ago, Pamplemousse said:

I'm done.

We would not be a Premier League team without him. Same as Nigel Adkins I guess; both should get the same amount of respect as and when they return to SMS

But it's time for some new ideas. Get someone in on Monday (NOT SELLES, not a caretaker, someone permanent) and let's kick on

 

Bournemouth are 8th in the league!!! And we're far better than them

I just don't see how a change to any manger is going to turn che, Armstrong etc into goal machines.

SR dropped a huge bollock not getting a goal scorer, that's on them.

I just don't see where goals can regularly come from in our team.

Could be worse we could be wolves who've only scored 3, of course 1 v us.

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9 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

People here talk about SR like some deity. Not seen much clarity or sense from them in all honesy

Can’t disagree with this, at this point in time.

The summer recruitment policy seemed to largely revolve around getting in the Man City recruitment manager and buying a bunch of nippers from Man City that he knew. As it’s looking so far our best signings this season are Billy Ketchup and Joe Aribo, who perhaps didn’t come from a Joe Shields recommendation. We also fucked up not bringing in a striker that the club, the manager and the fans all said we needed.

Also, we spent a lot this summer, but from what I’ve read over the past year or two, that money has been sat in our account since a Covid load undertaken when Gao was in charge. So, have SR actually put up any money themselves?

Far too early to pontificate on the merits or otherwise of SR, but let’s just say that the jury is out.

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1 hour ago, Andrew Watson said:

As things stand we are not better than Bournemouth and it makes me very angry to have to admit to that conclusion. They have an ex Portsmouth caretaker boss, who has done an amazing job to stablelize things since their Liverpool humiliation. If we are not careful we will lose there in 10 days time and that really would be one of the hardest ever results to take in nearly 60 years of supporting the club.  

 For RH to still be here after tuesday week, we need to pick up a minimum of 4 points from our next 2 games, as things stand cannot see that happening . He has to go either way.

Skates are rooting for O’Neill already !

chirping about the boscombe game all this week at work ! I’m praying we don’t lose that game… il be fish 🐟 food !!

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