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Lord Duckhunter

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IMO….Chelsea was an excellent performance, as was Man Utd. The last half hour of Leeds, and to some extent Leicester were acceptable. Spurs was horrendous, Villa even worse, and the first hour against Leeds was pony. Wolves was just average. In other words, the seasons been typically Ralph. 

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Hawkswood

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5 hours ago, gammon cheeks said:

Poch in ?

Okay, I spoke to a friend of mine who us still in contact with him. I contacted him a few days ago mainly cos of the conversations on here and I jokingly asked my friend if he was still in contact with him and if so would he fancy coming back here.

He replied : and this is straight from the horses mouth,

" He sees himself as too big for us these days "".

Now I know nothing is ever concrete in football bit this is straight from Poch. I could easily be wrong and anything could happen but he can't be more unequivocal than that. I loved Poch. Possibly my favourite manager we've had in the last 38 years that I've supported Saints, but it ain't gonna happen.

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4 minutes ago, Hawkswood said:

Okay, I spoke to a friend of mine who us still in contact with him. I contacted him a few days ago mainly cos of the conversations on here and I jokingly asked my friend if he was still in contact with him and if so would he fancy coming back here.

He replied : and this is straight from the horses mouth,

" He sees himself as too big for us these days "".

Now I know nothing is ever concrete in football bit this is straight from Poch. I could easily be wrong and anything could happen but he can't be more unequivocal than that. I loved Poch. Possibly my favourite manager we've had in the last 38 years that I've supported Saints, but it ain't gonna happen.

Well he is too big for us. From PSG to Southampton? Do me a favour

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I've never posted anything remotely ITK in the past and I'm not claiming to be ITK now.... however a friend of my friend works for Sky, and told my friend that Sky are currently "prepping" for Ralph's departure. 

That's what I heard, and I guess it might well have been merely a response to those Twitter rumours, so pinch of salt etc etc. 

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9 minutes ago, Block 5 said:

I've never posted anything remotely ITK in the past and I'm not claiming to be ITK now.... however a friend of my friend works for Sky, and told my friend that Sky are currently "prepping" for Ralph's departure. 

That's what I heard, and I guess it might well have been merely a response to those Twitter rumours, so pinch of salt etc etc. 

what is there for sky to prep for? It’s hardly Southgate being sacked by England. A bit of breaking news at the bottom of the screen and an interview with benali will be all the coverage that it’ll get and warrant.

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10 minutes ago, Block 5 said:

I've never posted anything remotely ITK in the past and I'm not claiming to be ITK now.... however a friend of my friend works for Sky, and told my friend that Sky are currently "prepping" for Ralph's departure. 

That's what I heard, and I guess it might well have been merely a response to those Twitter rumours, so pinch of salt etc etc. 

"Operation Itchen Bridge" as it is known in media circles.

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Wade Garrett

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1 hour ago, Hawkswood said:

Okay, I spoke to a friend of mine who us still in contact with him. I contacted him a few days ago mainly cos of the conversations on here and I jokingly asked my friend if he was still in contact with him and if so would he fancy coming back here.

He replied : and this is straight from the horses mouth,

" He sees himself as too big for us these days "".

Now I know nothing is ever concrete in football bit this is straight from Poch. I could easily be wrong and anything could happen but he can't be more unequivocal than that. I loved Poch. Possibly my favourite manager we've had in the last 38 years that I've supported Saints, but it ain't gonna happen.

No shit Sherlock.

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CB Fry

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1 hour ago, Hawkswood said:

Okay, I spoke to a friend of mine who us still in contact with him. I contacted him a few days ago mainly cos of the conversations on here and I jokingly asked my friend if he was still in contact with him and if so would he fancy coming back here.

He replied : and this is straight from the horses mouth,

" He sees himself as too big for us these days "".

Now I know nothing is ever concrete in football bit this is straight from Poch. I could easily be wrong and anything could happen but he can't be more unequivocal than that. I loved Poch. Possibly my favourite manager we've had in the last 38 years that I've supported Saints, but it ain't gonna happen.

Exclusive insight like that is the reason I am on this forum.

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1 hour ago, Block 5 said:

I've never posted anything remotely ITK in the past and I'm not claiming to be ITK now.... however a friend of my friend works for Sky, and told my friend that Sky are currently "prepping" for Ralph's departure. 

That's what I heard, and I guess it might well have been merely a response to those Twitter rumours, so pinch of salt etc etc. 

Prepping...! All they need to do is run the two nine nils, quote some of the woeful stats that we have collected as we collapse in the league, job done.  Probably no more than 5 minutes editing,  and would it really be that much of a story, doubt it. 

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1 hour ago, Hawkswood said:

Okay, I spoke to a friend of mine who us still in contact with him. I contacted him a few days ago mainly cos of the conversations on here and I jokingly asked my friend if he was still in contact with him and if so would he fancy coming back here.

He replied : and this is straight from the horses mouth,

" He sees himself as too big for us these days "".

Now I know nothing is ever concrete in football bit this is straight from Poch. I could easily be wrong and anything could happen but he can't be more unequivocal than that. I loved Poch. Possibly my favourite manager we've had in the last 38 years that I've supported Saints, but it ain't gonna happen.

Fucks sake! That’s ruined my evening. 

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1 hour ago, Turkish said:

what is there for sky to prep for? It’s hardly Southgate being sacked by England. A bit of breaking news at the bottom of the screen and an interview with benali will be all the coverage that it’ll get and warrant.

 

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Prepping...! All they need to do is run the two nine nils, quote some of the woeful stats that we have collected as we collapse in the league, job done.  Probably no more than 5 minutes editing,  and would it really be that much of a story, doubt it. 

Dell-sized mentality™

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4 hours ago, Turkish said:

what is there for sky to prep for? It’s hardly Southgate being sacked by England. A bit of breaking news at the bottom of the screen and an interview with benali will be all the coverage that it’ll get and warrant.

Wouldn't even get that.

"... same every year. No-one has ever caught the cheese. I mean, what would they do with it anyway? Who wants a muddy cheese...?

And finally... Southampton are in the market for a new manager... (Holds finger to ear) Hang on a minute! A big cheese update at the top of the hour, after the break."

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3 hours ago, Block 5 said:

I've never posted anything remotely ITK in the past and I'm not claiming to be ITK now.... however a friend of my friend works for Sky, and told my friend that Sky are currently "prepping" for Ralph's departure. 

That's what I heard, and I guess it might well have been merely a response to those Twitter rumours, so pinch of salt etc etc. 

Same person that presumably spoke to that Rob guy on twitter 6 hours before you posted?

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, stevy777_x said:

Poch just said that he was waiting for a higher caliber club than Nice and was prepared to wait. That s us off the list.

Or maybe, he has already agreed to come back to us, and is just waiting for the sacking of RH to be completed. Just an alternative scenario.

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12 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Questioning the judgement of those in charge.

Why? Did you expect us to be on more points after 7 games, after buying 10 new players and not bringing in a recognized striker in the summer.

I d say we are doing alright. Young team= inconsistency which is exactly what we ve been

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Not one for going back but I seriously think poch could be a good fit for the players we currently have a the club and would get us back on track.... yes maybe a stepping stone again (like any manager would do) but he would have a point to prove, whereas Ralph has nothing to motivate him

Would he consider us if the price/fit was right? 

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5 minutes ago, Mr X said:

Not one for going back but I seriously think poch could be a good fit for the players we currently have a the club and would get us back on track.... yes maybe a stepping stone again (like any manager would do) but he would have a point to prove, whereas Ralph has nothing to motivate him

Would he consider us if the price/fit was right? 

Taking Spurs to a CL final - Managing PSG with some of the World’s best players - Trying to keep Southampton up with a bunch of kids and without a proven striker.

In what world is that possibly a logical career move?

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49 minutes ago, Mr X said:

Not one for going back but I seriously think poch could be a good fit for the players we currently have a the club and would get us back on track.... yes maybe a stepping stone again (like any manager would do) but he would have a point to prove, whereas Ralph has nothing to motivate him

Would he consider us if the price/fit was right? 

Are you having a stroke?

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1 hour ago, stevy777_x said:

Why? Did you expect us to be on more points after 7 games, after buying 10 new players and not bringing in a recognized striker in the summer.

I d say we are doing alright. Young team= inconsistency which is exactly what we ve been

Why - because I think the manager is shit.

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2 hours ago, stevy777_x said:

Why? Did you expect us to be on more points after 7 games, after buying 10 new players and not bringing in a recognized striker in the summer.

I d say we are doing alright. Young team= inconsistency which is exactly what we ve been

True, but that offers no explanation for Ralph's most recent brain fart.

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2 hours ago, stevy777_x said:

Why? Did you expect us to be on more points after 7 games, after buying 10 new players and not bringing in a recognized striker in the summer.

I d say we are doing alright. Young team= inconsistency which is exactly what we ve been

We are doing okay?

Blimey Ralph probably has one of the worst managerial records for Saints in the last 15 years and he’s doing okay?

IMHO I expect a little more than what he is doing right now and if he can’t do that then I suggest we get someone in who can.

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Regards whether the time has come for Ralph to go yet I'm ambivilent about.

Up until last week , I think my thoughts were that we should give him a little bit more time, to bed this new team in and see how we go. 

However, as may have already said on here, Last weeks match against Villa was a real turnover for me.  As Saints fans we have allgot used to pretty decent performances, often followed by pretty poor performances.

But last week, we were absolutely abysmal. For the firts time ever I switched off with about 30 minutes to go. Otherwise my missus thought that I might just have seizure ! And in over 60 years of watching Saints hame and away I have never left a match early before.

All the Ralphy traits were back there on view in that match. Wierd and inexplicable selections to start the match. Poor tactics and strategy.  No motivation throughout the team. No decisive movement or decisions from Ralph and the coaching team to change things up. Just static woeful stuff.

Two more points if I may. I think the decision to allow Romeo to go was a truly dreadful one. The reasoning supposedly was it was in gratitude for his service to our club. But he was our player on a contract still and his loyalty was to us still and although most of us who attend St.Marys reguarly last season could see that his legs had gone a bit, we could have managed him wisely still and boy was he important to us. I sincerely hope we dont look back at the end of the season and think....what if !

And then add in the signing of Maitland-Niles. I have a friend in his 60's, a life long Gooner and season ticket holder. He told me we are getting a really useful player who could be used in that central mid-field role. He said that it looked as though he just didnt fit in with Arteta plans.

And what did Ralphy do....well a bit of Ralphism again ! He makes a strange statement about M-N not being ready yet for " our"  system !!! Could somone plaese tell me what that actually is at the moment.

So a 25 year old who played a bit for one of the bigger clubs in the PL .....and who had 5 England caps I believe.....needed time according to Ralph to " fit in ".....yet he throws 18 and 19 years old on who seemingly have had that time to " learn our system " Bloody bizzare !

So, is it Ralph in or out ? For me , it depends on who's out there that we can persuade to come to our club. Poch and Tuched are merely pipe dreams in my opinion.

Rant over ! 

 

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20 minutes ago, Francis1947 said:

Regards whether the time has come for Ralph to go yet I'm ambivilent about.

Up until last week , I think my thoughts were that we should give him a little bit more time, to bed this new team in and see how we go. 

However, as may have already said on here, Last weeks match against Villa was a real turnover for me.  As Saints fans we have allgot used to pretty decent performances, often followed by pretty poor performances.

But last week, we were absolutely abysmal. For the firts time ever I switched off with about 30 minutes to go. Otherwise my missus thought that I might just have seizure ! And in over 60 years of watching Saints hame and away I have never left a match early before.

All the Ralphy traits were back there on view in that match. Wierd and inexplicable selections to start the match. Poor tactics and strategy.  No motivation throughout the team. No decisive movement or decisions from Ralph and the coaching team to change things up. Just static woeful stuff.

Two more points if I may. I think the decision to allow Romeo to go was a truly dreadful one. The reasoning supposedly was it was in gratitude for his service to our club. But he was our player on a contract still and his loyalty was to us still and although most of us who attend St.Marys reguarly last season could see that his legs had gone a bit, we could have managed him wisely still and boy was he important to us. I sincerely hope we dont look back at the end of the season and think....what if !

And then add in the signing of Maitland-Niles. I have a friend in his 60's, a life long Gooner and season ticket holder. He told me we are getting a really useful player who could be used in that central mid-field role. He said that it looked as though he just didnt fit in with Arteta plans.

And what did Ralphy do....well a bit of Ralphism again ! He makes a strange statement about M-N not being ready yet for " our"  system !!! Could somone plaese tell me what that actually is at the moment.

So a 25 year old who played a bit for one of the bigger clubs in the PL .....and who had 5 England caps I believe.....needed time according to Ralph to " fit in ".....yet he throws 18 and 19 years old on who seemingly have had that time to " learn our system " Bloody bizzare !

So, is it Ralph in or out ? For me , it depends on who's out there that we can persuade to come to our club. Poch and Tuched are merely pipe dreams in my opinion.

Rant over ! 

 

I would consider it a rant, it's a succinct and eloquent summary in my opinion. 

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Pamplemousse

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1 hour ago, Pilchards said:

We are doing okay?

Blimey Ralph probably has one of the worst managerial records for Saints in the last 15 years and he’s doing okay?

IMHO I expect a little more than what he is doing right now and if he can’t do that then I suggest we get someone in who can.

Given the quality of squads he's had at his disposal, I genuinely think it's a miracle we're still in the league. Clearing up the mess left by Pellegrino and Hughes, and also by Les Reed/Krueger, no tall order.

I actually hadn't looked at the league table for a while but assumed we were a couple of places off the drop zone the way everyone is talking, turns out we're actually higher up. So yeah the start hasn't been that great but hardly catastrophic.

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Slow news day so just spoken to a mate who is head of maintenance for Ronald Koeman's golf buggy.  Got him to ask Ron if he was going to come back to Saints, and he replied that he now considers himself too big for us, also some incoherent mutterings about asshats and dugouts.  Is anyone here on first names terms with Nigel Adkins' optician? 

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Ralph still second favourite to be next manager to leave his job behind Rodgers but moving out (I think) at 9/4. Was probably just a few punters getting on after seeing that Wiki nonsense. Actually would quite like it to happen though, I suddenly realise

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1 hour ago, Francis1947 said:

Regards whether the time has come for Ralph to go yet I'm ambivilent about.

Up until last week , I think my thoughts were that we should give him a little bit more time, to bed this new team in and see how we go. 

However, as may have already said on here, Last weeks match against Villa was a real turnover for me.  As Saints fans we have allgot used to pretty decent performances, often followed by pretty poor performances.

But last week, we were absolutely abysmal. For the firts time ever I switched off with about 30 minutes to go. Otherwise my missus thought that I might just have seizure ! And in over 60 years of watching Saints hame and away I have never left a match early before.

All the Ralphy traits were back there on view in that match. Wierd and inexplicable selections to start the match. Poor tactics and strategy.  No motivation throughout the team. No decisive movement or decisions from Ralph and the coaching team to change things up. Just static woeful stuff.

Two more points if I may. I think the decision to allow Romeo to go was a truly dreadful one. The reasoning supposedly was it was in gratitude for his service to our club. But he was our player on a contract still and his loyalty was to us still and although most of us who attend St.Marys reguarly last season could see that his legs had gone a bit, we could have managed him wisely still and boy was he important to us. I sincerely hope we dont look back at the end of the season and think....what if !

And then add in the signing of Maitland-Niles. I have a friend in his 60's, a life long Gooner and season ticket holder. He told me we are getting a really useful player who could be used in that central mid-field role. He said that it looked as though he just didnt fit in with Arteta plans.

And what did Ralphy do....well a bit of Ralphism again ! He makes a strange statement about M-N not being ready yet for " our"  system !!! Could somone plaese tell me what that actually is at the moment.

So a 25 year old who played a bit for one of the bigger clubs in the PL .....and who had 5 England caps I believe.....needed time according to Ralph to " fit in ".....yet he throws 18 and 19 years old on who seemingly have had that time to " learn our system " Bloody bizzare !

So, is it Ralph in or out ? For me , it depends on who's out there that we can persuade to come to our club. Poch and Tuched are merely pipe dreams in my opinion.

Rant over ! 

 

Good post. Ralph just drives me nuts with his idiosyncratic decisions. 

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Tom & Gerry

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Sometimes Ralph gets it right and sometimes, too often for some he gets it wrong, but that is hardly surprising given the quality of the league. To get results against teams of equal or greater ability you can't always stand toe to toe with them, you have to think outside the box and occasionally be a little unorthodox and also  a lot goes on behind the scenes with players that we don't know about. However in this game you are only as good as your last game and  that was deeply concerning, but  before that we should really  have got a point away which isn't bad and the game before that we all enjoyed. So I suggest the sensible way to go is to see how we do in the matches leading up to the world cup break and then decide if we want to make a change.  If Ralph were a cat he'd be very much on his 9th life.

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