Lord Duckhunter Posted 17 September, 2022 Share Posted 17 September, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Strange how everyone we play has been, “sh*te,” and we get zero credit for making the look bad. Villa have a bunch of £30m players, double what we’ve spent on any of our team, but we should just beat them because you said so? It isn’t us that’s made them look bad, it’s the rest of the fucking teams they’ve played. We’ve actually made Villa & Wolves look ok. Leicester have just taken another dicking, Chelsea sacked their manager & Utd got done by Brighton & Brentford. Your noddy mentality is what’s wrong with a number of our supporters. You keep claiming we had a tough start, we didn’t. 7 games and we’ve faced one decent side. If those 7 games included City, Liverpool, Arsenal, you’d have a point. But they didn’t, and you don’t. We have made a poor start considering the fixtures we’ve had. If you’ve got to play 3 of the big clubs, you’d pick Chelsea & Utd at the moment. You’d want Leicester every day of the week this season, & Wolves and Villa have made awful starts. Edited 17 September, 2022 by Lord Duckhunter 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 17 September, 2022 Share Posted 17 September, 2022 15 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: So because we’ve spent £70m we really should be expecting to beat the likes of Man United and Chelsea? Strange how everyone we play has been, “sh*te,” and we get zero credit for making the look bad. Villa have a bunch of £30m players, double what we’ve spent on any of our team, but we should just beat them because you said so? Results like Villa and Wolves happen, they were away games against competent opponents, which could have gone either way. The time to start losing sleep is when you go to Bournemouth or Fulham and are 3-0 down at half time. We’re approaching a full calendar year of woeful performances. Based on last night, we are regressing if anything. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 17 September, 2022 Share Posted 17 September, 2022 (edited) Might yet get worse, Brenda should be available in a few hours. Stick or twist ? 😉 Edited 17 September, 2022 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 September, 2022 Share Posted 17 September, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Maggie May said: We’re approaching a full calendar year of woeful performances "Analysing calendar years is pointless" (c) Saintsweb Intelligentsia 2020 Edited 17 September, 2022 by trousers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 17 September, 2022 Share Posted 17 September, 2022 1 hour ago, Lighthouse said: I think people need to accept that 7 points from those 7 fixtures is about a par score for Saints. We look better than last year overall, but £70m isn’t going to turn that team into world beaters. Dell-sized mentality 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 17 September, 2022 Share Posted 17 September, 2022 Brighton seem to be decent at recruitment, I say sack Ralph now and look at their targets for a replacement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 17 September, 2022 Author Share Posted 17 September, 2022 Should have fired him when I started this thread in 2019. Flattered to deceive ever since . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 17 September, 2022 Share Posted 17 September, 2022 1 hour ago, Lighthouse said: So because we’ve spent £70m we really should be expecting to beat the likes of Man United and Chelsea? Strange how everyone we play has been, “sh*te,” and we get zero credit for making the look bad. Villa have a bunch of £30m players, double what we’ve spent on any of our team, but we should just beat them because you said so? Results like Villa and Wolves happen, they were away games against competent opponents, which could have gone either way. The time to start losing sleep is when you go to Bournemouth or Fulham and are 3-0 down at half time. Villa and Wolves competant? They both look absolutely terrible this season. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 17 September, 2022 Share Posted 17 September, 2022 43 minutes ago, trousers said: "Analysing calendar years is pointless" (c) Saintsweb Intelligentsia 2020 Ha! I make it 15 PL defeats since the start of Jan. very bleak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 17 September, 2022 Share Posted 17 September, 2022 Very difficult to excuse last night. And the simple reality is that it continues a theme, and we are losing without any quality or fight to poor teams. I thought the new coaches might have made a difference but if the person at the top is still not leading well, making good decisions and motivating, then a change is probably the best course of action. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 17 September, 2022 Share Posted 17 September, 2022 The final straw for me? Seeing the Delapesque long throw-ins make a most unwelcome, groan-inducing return. They never worked when Delap did them, and they don't work now. They slow the game down horribly and are so easy to defend. The hallmark of a regime that has run out of ideas and steam. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintscummer Posted 17 September, 2022 Share Posted 17 September, 2022 I reckon his assistant will get the job in the next month. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 17 September, 2022 Share Posted 17 September, 2022 3 minutes ago, Saintscummer said: I reckon his assistant will get the job in the next month. Do it now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 17 September, 2022 Share Posted 17 September, 2022 Ralph will not walk as he needs the payoff, The club need to sack him Tuesday and I’m pretty sure they will and should have a plan in place if they do. I doubt they will pay him off and poach another club by paying compensation as it would cost in the region of 15m to replace Ralph. So who’s out there ready to step in?!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 17 September, 2022 Share Posted 17 September, 2022 34 minutes ago, Pilchards said: So who’s out there ready to step in?!? The Sammy Lee / Dennis Rofe dream team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 17 September, 2022 Share Posted 17 September, 2022 Ralph has reinvented long ball kick and rush at a stroke so give the man some credit. Will look good on his CV if nothing else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 Get Frank in from Brentford and pay him the wage RH gets. Will be enough to get him I'm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 1 hour ago, skintsaint said: Get Frank in from Brentford and pay him the wage RH gets. Will be enough to get him I'm. 7m pay off Ralph 2m compensation Brentford 7m Frank 16m in total and there goes our strikers fee for January. No can’t see it as that’s throwing money away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarisbury Saint Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 8 hours ago, Pilchards said: Ralph will not walk as he needs the payoff, The club need to sack him Tuesday and I’m pretty sure they will and should have a plan in place if they do. I doubt they will pay him off and poach another club by paying compensation as it would cost in the region of 15m to replace Ralph. So who’s out there ready to step in?!? Is Poch still free ? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 27 minutes ago, Pilchards said: 7m pay off Ralph 2m compensation Brentford 7m Frank 16m in total and there goes our strikers fee for January. No can’t see it as that’s throwing money away! Spend money on a striker in January, keep same manager and still he'll still get us relegated. No can’t see it as that’s throwing money away! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 9 minutes ago, Sarisbury Saint said: Is Poch still free ? Swimming in a bigger pond now unfortunately.. Selles is the cheap option and would get my vote 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 24 minutes ago, Wurzel said: Spend money on a striker in January, keep same manager and still he'll still get us relegated. No can’t see it as that’s throwing money away! Yeah I can see it now, we sign a striker for £30m but doesn’t play him for 10 Games as he doesn’t know our system but then proceeds to play an 11 year old on loan from Chelsea in his first game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 40 minutes ago, Chris cooper said: Swimming in a bigger pond now unfortunately.. Selles is the cheap option and would get my vote Why would the cheap option get your vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 47 minutes ago, Wurzel said: Spend money on a striker in January, keep same manager and still he'll still get us relegated. No can’t see it as that’s throwing money away! I know what you are saying bud and this is why I think they will sack Ralph and get his number 2 to step in as I honestly can’t see anyone making a bigger mess than Ralph with the squad we have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Why would the cheap option get your vote? Selles has made a difference since we’ve shuffled things around and I like wot I see from him . Paying off Ralph Would eat a sizeable chunk of funds available for a striker in January if we have 30m to spend. pay off Ralph wen we lose or draw with Everton .. let Selles take the reigns and Would be a lot cheaper than paying a club compensation to release a manager if we decided to go that way .. last available post so can’t discuss further with ya cos I’m to tight to pay the £5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 1 hour ago, Chris cooper said: Swimming in a bigger pond now unfortunately.. Selles is the cheap option and would get my vote What Monica?...................(.the American, Hungarian, Serbian, Serbo-Montenegrin, Yugoslav, Yugoslavian,tennis player) ,what she now knows something about football management? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 Pay for Poch. Make a statement! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singapore Saint Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 17 minutes ago, Roo1976 said: What Monica?...................(.the American, Hungarian, Serbian, Serbo-Montenegrin, Yugoslav, Yugoslavian,tennis player) ,what she now knows something about football management? She has a mean two-handed backhand and forehand, which is more than Ralph ever had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 There are plenty out there that would do a better job than Ralph. Mind you, to be fair, I reckon my dog would. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 11 hours ago, adrian lord said: The final straw for me? Seeing the Delapesque long throw-ins make a most unwelcome, groan-inducing return. They never worked when Delap did them, and they don't work now. They slow the game down horribly and are so easy to defend. The hallmark of a regime that has run out of ideas and steam. Objectively you're wrong, we scored against Leicester from one of the throw ins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 42 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Pay for Poch. Make a statement! Unlikely. Not a fan of 'coming back', but would make an exception here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 20 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: Objectively you're wrong, we scored against Leicester from one of the throw ins. Indeed. Since it was explained that the reason we utilise them is because we tend to win the second ball, I've watched carefully and it seems to be true. Very rarely do the oppo manage to clear it properly first time. The problem is that a) it leaves Salisu badly out of position if we do give it away and b) we don't have anybody on the pitch who has the slightest idea what to do with the second ball once we've won it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 3 hours ago, Pilchards said: 7m pay off Ralph 2m compensation Brentford 7m Frank 16m in total and there goes our strikers fee for January. No can’t see it as that’s throwing money away! I wouldn't be surprised if the compensation for Frank would be a lot more than 2m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 4 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: I wouldn't be surprised if the compensation for Frank would be a lot more than 2m I would be surprised if paying off Ralph would cost £7m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 5 hours ago, skintsaint said: Get Frank in from Brentford and pay him the wage RH gets. Will be enough to get him I'm. 3 hours ago, Pilchards said: 7m pay off Ralph 2m compensation Brentford 7m Frank 16m in total and there goes our strikers fee for January. No can’t see it as that’s throwing money away! Why would Frank come here? He's got a better squad at Brentford. Arrogant to assume that he'd come running if we click our fingers. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 11 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: I would be surprised if paying off Ralph would cost £7m. If he's got the thick end of 2 years left on his deal and he's earning £70k PW, that's £7m. Rumours are that he's on more than that though, so it'll be more than £7m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 I really hope that Leicester do not come thieving from us again, and swipe Ralph from under our noses. Ala Vestergaard and Bertrand 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 Saints extend their failing to win away from home in the Premier League after trailing at half-time to an incredible 104 games Scary stat 🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 12 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: I really hope that Leicester do not come thieving from us again, and swipe Ralph from under our noses. Ala Vestergaard and Bertrand I've already painted PLEZE LESTER DON'T TAKE RALF AWAY on an old bed sheet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 1 minute ago, CB Fry said: I've already painted PLEZE LESTER DON'T TAKE RALF AWAY on an old bed sheet Hope you have a spare saying PLEZE LESTER TAKE RALF AWAY! 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 Ultimately we know he isn’t going anywhere, anytime soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 3 hours ago, Wurzel said: Spend money on a striker in January, keep same manager and still he'll still get us relegated. No can’t see it as that’s throwing money away! Like he got us relegated last season, and the season before that too if I remember correctly. Wring your sheets out, we'll be fine again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 3 wins in the last 27, no clean sheets in last 13 games,no strikers, no creativity in midfield,no leadership on the pitch,terrible team selections. Hasenhuttl remains utter shite. That’s another constant. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 34 minutes ago, egg said: If he's got the thick end of 2 years left on his deal and he's earning £70k PW, that's £7m. Rumours are that he's on more than that though, so it'll be more than £7m. So you know the finer details in his contract, specifically pay-off clauses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said: So you know the finer details in his contract, specifically pay-off clauses. Nope, but most football contracts are fixed term so have to be fully paid up if cancelled by the club. There's no reason to believe Ralph's contract is anything other than standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 Just now, cloggy saint said: Like he got us relegated last season, and the season before that too if I remember correctly. Wring your sheets out, we'll be fine again. We wouldn't be the first side to get relegated under a manager who has previously escaped the drop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 Surely the simple answer, is to demote him from head coach, to coach, and promote Selles. No pay off needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 Just now, egg said: Nope, but most football contracts are fixed term so have to be fully paid up if cancelled by the club. There's no reason to believe Ralph's contract is anything other than standard. I would think that manager's contracts have a sacking clause in them. It would be ridiculous otherwise. Manager signs a contract, doesn't fancy the work so does everything ha can to produce a crap under-performing team so he can get his wages whilst sitting on a beach somewhere. I suppose it would explain our clueless manager, his tactics and selections. "If I pick Moi every week and play everyone else out of position I can have the next 2 years off with full pay". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 4 minutes ago, Gingeletiss said: Surely the simple answer, is to demote him from head coach, to coach, and promote Selles. No pay off needed. He'd still be in the payroll so that's not much of a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 18 September, 2022 Share Posted 18 September, 2022 Just now, egg said: He'd still be in the payroll so that's not much of a solution. Yes, but not having control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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