Ralph Hasenhuttl

[Disco Stu]

I think it's time for a change. His game management is just baffling.

[Wade Garrett]

Please fuck off Ralph.

[The Kraken]

5 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

Disappointed if this is the end as I think he's had a horrible deal of it during his tenure here. I think it'd be a shame to part ways just as things are looking more positive from a financial aspect. 

Unfortunately though it's just been dire for months now, hard to fight his corner much further. 

I think horrible deal is pushing it.

He hasn’t been well backed financially, certainly in terms of transfer fees. But he’s been very well remunerated himself, and he’s wasted a very significant amount of money on transfers and wages on dross. I’ve been a defender of Ralph, I think I overall he’s been good for us, but it seems like his road is run. He has run out of (good) ideas, the form of team is in free fall, and next year looks very worrying indeed.

I also don’t share your view that the future looks better financially. So far I feel no difference with this lot at the helm than I did with Gao.

Edited 7 May, 2022 by The Kraken

[qwertyell]

The owners, with their Brentford links, can't fail to notice the increasingly stark difference between the state of the club they left and their new toy.

The youth set up seems to be in decent health right now. It's the first team that's going nowhere but down if they don't change something.

[Bad Wolf]

I like Ralph but very hard to defend him after that.

Sacking Ralph now would be extremely counter productive. I honestly think he'll go at the end of the season and Frank will come in.

How would people feel if the club announced tonight that Ralph was departing at the end of the season but would stay on for the remaining games? May create a better atmosphere, we'd get to say goodbye on relatively good terms and managers who want the job would have longer to apply before the end of season sackings start.

Edited 7 May, 2022 by Bad Wolf

[Nemi]

He’s done an ok job, and we have had memorable moments, but for the majority of the time here the football has been crap and the results even worse.

I don’t know who would be a better option and realistically we could do a lot worse, but we’re not gonna get any better with Ralph and unless we want to just scrape relegation every season we need new ideas.

I’d take the risk and get someone new. I’d rather risk getting relegated by at least trying to be better, cause it isn’t fun being a Saints fan right now

 

Edited 7 May, 2022 by Nemi

[skintsaint]

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

Just now, Bad Wolf said:

Sacking Ralph now would be extremely counter productive. I honestly think he'll go at the end of the season and Frank will come in.

How would people feel if the club announced tonight that Ralph was departing at the end of the season but would stay on for the remaining games? May create a better atmosphere, we'd get to say goodbye on relatively good terms and managers who want the job would have longer to apply before the end of season sackings start.

I'd rather he was sacked in the dressing room right now. It's not like he'll be getting us another point this season anyway. 

[Baird of the land]

2 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

I like Ralph but very hard to defend him after that.

Sacking Ralph now would be extremely counter productive. I honestly think he'll go at the end of the season and Frank will come in.

How would people feel if the club announced tonight that Ralph was departing at the end of the season but would stay on for the remaining games? May create a better atmosphere, we'd get to say goodbye on relatively good terms and managers who want the job would have longer to apply before the end of season sackings start.

That would be atrocious. Effectively ' a we don't care if we get relegated/ don't take seriously the situation' message

[egg]

Enough is enough. The bloke can't live off previous purple patches any more. Get him gone. Now. 

[Teddeer]

13 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

Disappointed if this is the end as I think he's had a horrible deal of it during his tenure here. I think it'd be a shame to part ways just as things are looking more positive from a financial aspect. 

Unfortunately though it's just been dire for months now, hard to fight his corner much further. 

I'm sure his bank balance will compensate for his horrible deal. I wouldn't mind earning that amount for failure. It's not all bad for Ralph - sure he doesn't spend his evenings cutting out discount coupons. There are worse jobs in the world.

[CWD]

1 minute ago, Nemi said:

He’s fine an ok job, and we have had memorable moments, but for the majority of the time here the football has been crap and the results even worse.

I don’t know who would be a better option and realistically we could do a lot worse, but we’re not gonna get any better with Ralph and unless we want to just scrape relegation every season we need new ideas.

I’d take the risk and get someone new. I’d rather risk getting relegated by at least trying to be better, cause it isn’t fun being a Saints fan right now

 

Agree completely with this. I like Ralph, and think he has done a good job for the most part. He's consistently had a very weak squad, but still given us some great results here and there and crucially kept us in the league comfortably.

But for the first time, I'm in the Ralph Out camp. His game management has been dire, particularly in the last few months, and we haven't really shown any progression under him, bar a few purple patches. We've never got to the level of consistency I thought we would. I've lost faith that he's the man to get us back into the top half.

[CB Fry]

Said it before. He's just the Austrian Dave Jones. That's all he is.

Probably capable of getting us to 16/17th again next year.

[Teddeer]

7 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

You didn't sort out the defence, you lost control of the task, I've had it with your excuses, your playbook could have been written by a four year old....for those reasons Ralph, it is with regret that you are fired!

[hypochondriac]

I think we did well to get as many points as we had to be honest. Problem is we are so inconsistent and Ralph doesn't seem to be able to change a game. We have a really poor squad but even knowing that I think we should try someone else. 

[Turkish]

We can’t really judge him until he’s had a full season with his squad. This isn’t his squad yet

[Suhari]

So frustrating. I like RH and he has delivered some great performances.

He's got an average to shit squad, and little opportunity to invest.

He's got a patched together coaching team: really, how many of our first team coaches would get jobs at other EPL clubs?

So he's not got an ideal base for success. Its a real shame.

But he's also seemingly stubborn, makes some woeful team selections and tactical decisions, and simply can't influence things 'in game'. And there's just too many truly awful performances.

I remain, just, only just, on the 'RH in' bandwagon. Let's freshen up the squad, get him a new coaching team and go again next season. Something needs to change.

That said: I wouldn't shed a tear if he left or was fired.

 

[S-Clarke]

He doesn't help himself with the daft selections. How many times does he need to see Diallo and JWP in a two before he realises it doesn't work at this level?

They moved through the middle of us with ease today. We certainly don't have enough quality in the squad, no where near, but you can't suicidally go into a game leaving yourself so exposed to the obvious counter attacks.

If he looked at the Brentford home game and selected Diallo based on that, then I'm at a loss. That game was a success for Diallo because he played in a 3, ahead of the two deeper lying midfielders offering protection. 

Really, really abject end to the season. Equally as bad as last season and you have to say that injuries aren't to blame this time either, bar Tino that's a full squad of albeit pretty abject players in the main, but it's still a full squad.

I don't know where we go from here to be honest. Part of me is hoping that he will be afforded the backing to actually buy 'footballers' for this team to make his job easier, but then I don't know if I can deal with thrashings every week for much longer. And it's most weeks. 61 goals let in again this season. That sort of rate will eventually lead to relegation.

[Matthew Le God]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

We can’t really judge him until he’s had a full season with his squad. This isn’t his squad yet

I haven't seen a post defending him today. So perhaps stop this line of sarcasm? 🤔

[Bad Wolf]

17 minutes ago, Nemi said:

He’s done an ok job, and we have had memorable moments, but for the majority of the time here the football has been crap and the results even worse.

I don’t know who would be a better option and realistically we could do a lot worse, but we’re not gonna get any better with Ralph and unless we want to just scrape relegation every season we need new ideas.

I’d take the risk and get someone new. I’d rather risk getting relegated by at least trying to be better, cause it isn’t fun being a Saints fan right now

 

I disagree. At worst, it's been about 50/50. 

[adrian lord]

Time to go. 

[Bad Wolf]

17 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

That would be atrocious. Effectively ' a we don't care if we get relegated/ don't take seriously the situation' message

Sticking with a manager who's kept us up 4 seasons in a row sends a message that they don't care about relegation?

[Bad Wolf]

14 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Said it before. He's just the Austrian Dave Jones. That's all he is.

Probably capable of getting us to 16/17th again next year.

I was about 8 when Jones was in charge and not really into football but from what I've heard, didn't he do okay?? At worst underwhelming?

[bpsaint]

23 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

I like Ralph but very hard to defend him after that.

Sacking Ralph now would be extremely counter productive. I honestly think he'll go at the end of the season and Frank will come in.

How would people feel if the club announced tonight that Ralph was departing at the end of the season but would stay on for the remaining games? May create a better atmosphere, we'd get to say goodbye on relatively good terms and managers who want the job would have longer to apply before the end of season sackings start.

Yeah I’m sure St Mary’s will be absolutely buzzing next week after we get absolutely dicked about 0-8 by Liverpool and all the fans stay in their seats to wave off Ralph as if it’s a ship on its maiden voyage.
 

A quiet parting of the ways is needed IMO.

[EBS1980]

Has nobody to discuss things with, get input from during the games. It’s only ever Ralph in the technical area, maybe a revamp of the coaching set up with an actual assistant one of those brought in rather than just a series of coaches?

[Turkish]

7 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

I was about 8 when Jones was in charge and not really into football but from what I've heard, didn't he do okay?? At worst underwhelming?

Did about the same as Ralph. Lower midtable, some awful run, think we got 2 points from 10 games at the start of one season, some decent wins. It’s a fair comparison. Hoddle came in and immediately made the team considerably better

Edited 7 May, 2022 by Turkish

[Saint Matty 76]

23 minutes ago, Teddeer said:

I'm sure his bank balance will compensate for his horrible deal. I wouldn't mind earning that amount for failure. It's not all bad for Ralph - sure he doesn't spend his evenings cutting out discount coupons. There are worse jobs in the world.

I get that, but I think it’s very harsh to describe his tenure as a failure. 

I think it could be time to move on but I don’t begrudge him whatsoever of how he’s kept us up without much fuss with the limitations we’ve put on ourselves.

[Turkish]

6 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

Yeah I’m sure St Mary’s will be absolutely buzzing next week after we get absolutely dicked about 0-8 by Liverpool and all the fans stay in their seats to wave off Ralph as if it’s a ship on its maiden voyage.
 

A quiet parting of the ways is needed IMO.

Surely the only appropriate result for Ralph’s last home game is 9-0?

[cloggy saint]

12 minutes ago, adrian lord said:

Time to go. 

Yep, just look at the new heights we soared to after replacing the last 3 managers.

[Mr X]

Remember when some people thought we'd got ourselves a budget klopp when he first came here? 😂

[trousers]

I reluctantly sent off my application form for the 'Ralph Out' club just before our superb 'Top 6 form' run from December to March. 

That run led me to believe, like many others, that he had found the key to the consistency door at long last. But, alas, it would appear, in retrospect, to have been a false dawn. 

I'm therefore, somewhat reluctantly again, dusting off my 'Ralph Out' membership card as I feel the club needs the kind of fresh impetus that only a new management regime can bring. 

I still remain baffled how a manager can go from seemingly being a genius at some stages of the season to someone that resembles a clueless buffoon at other times. 

For sale: #legend hashtag. One careful owner. 

Edited 7 May, 2022 by trousers

[S-Clarke]

12 minutes ago, EBS1980 said:

Has nobody to discuss things with, get input from during the games. It’s only ever Ralph in the technical area, maybe a revamp of the coaching set up with an actual assistant one of those brought in rather than just a series of coaches?

Sadly that's probably down to our finances again, we couldn't even bring in proper coaches and had to promote cheapo options from the under age teams. When you look at it from a financial point of view he really hasn't had the support. He's not been able to build his own backroom team, he's only been able to add to the team in bits and pieces over several windows whilst selling the better players from the previous seasons etc. It really is the recipe for  'standing still' and that's ultimately what we have done ever since he's been here.

My feeling is that if we ditch him now we put a lot of our summer plans in the bin, potentially miss out on targets and have to start all over again with a new manager and potentially go into a new season with the same absolute garbage attacking players, just without Broja this time.

Edited 7 May, 2022 by S-Clarke

[CB Fry]

17 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

I was about 8 when Jones was in charge and not really into football but from what I've heard, didn't he do okay?? At worst underwhelming?

Yes he did okay. 

One pretty decent season with Kevin Davies on fire (12th) and then a bit dodgy but a wonderful great escape season with Pahars.

That's all Ralph is. Okay, fine, bottom six okay. 

Remember there have been moments where we think he's off to Manchester United or Spurs and all that nonsense.

He's not that. He's Dave Jones.

[Matthew Le God]

2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

My feeling is that if we ditch him now we put a lot of our summer plans in the bin, potentially miss out on targets and have to start all over again with a new manager and potentially go into a new season with the same absolute garbage attacking players, just without Broja this time.

Losing Pochettino and some key players in 2014 didn't stop Saints having a superb transfer window with a newly appointed manager of Koeman. Sadly the same can't be said of the summer appointments of Puel and Pellegrino and their respective summer transfer windows.

[Saints foreva]

You know its bad when Matt Le God turns. 

[Turkish]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Losing Pochettino and some key players in 2014 didn't stop Saints having a superb transfer window with a newly appointed manager of Koeman. Sadly the same can't be said of the summer appointments of Puel and Pellegrino and their respective summer transfer windows.

That’s because We had Les Reed at the wheel in those days. 

[Bad Wolf]

1 minute ago, CB Fry said:

Yes he did okay. 

One pretty decent season with Kevin Davies on fire (12th) and then a bit dodgy but a wonderful great escape season with Pahars.

That's all Ralph is. Okay, fine, bottom six okay. 

Remember there have been moments where we think he's off to Manchester United or Spurs and all that nonsense.

He's not that. He's Dave Jones.

Thing is, if we aim higher than "okay" it's a risk and will probably result in someone poaching the new manager.

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, Saints foreva said:

You know its bad when Matt Le God turns. 

Like milk?

[Turkish]

Just now, Saints foreva said:

You know its bad when Matt Le God turns. 

The spread sheet formulas must had turned against him

[DT]

Hasenhuttl: “The difference is in & around the box, & this is the difference between these two teams at the moment. When we have the ball in the box we have two players there & they have five players there. This is why they score three goals & we don’t.” #saintsfc [bbc]
 

not a clue 

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Yes he did okay. 

One pretty decent season with Kevin Davies on fire (12th) and then a bit dodgy but a wonderful great escape season with Pahars.

That's all Ralph is. Okay, fine, bottom six okay. 

Remember there have been moments where we think he's off to Manchester United or Spurs and all that nonsense.

He's not that. He's Dave Jones.

There were moments when some of our dinlow fans thought Adkins was the next great British manager though

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, Turkish said:

The spread sheet formulas must had turned against him

The numbers have spoken Turkish!

[DT]

Hasenhuttl: “Between the two boxes, it looks quite organised, and on the ball - okay. But the decisive parts in the game are not there, and this is the reason why we don’t win a game at the moment.” #saintsfc [bbc]
 

why don’t you bloody work on it then you imbecile 

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

2 minutes ago, Saints foreva said:

You know its bad when Matt Le God turns. 

The football manager algorithm must have alerted him to something. I wonder what :-;

 

[Saints foreva]

1 minute ago, DT said:

Hasenhuttl: “Between the two boxes, it looks quite organised, and on the ball - okay. But the decisive parts in the game are not there, and this is the reason why we don’t win a game at the moment.” #saintsfc [bbc]
 

why don’t you bloody work on it then you imbecile 

Clown. Absolute clown. 

[Matthew Le God]

1 minute ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

The football manager algorithm must have alerted him to something. I wonder what :-;

No light at the end of Ralph's tunnel!

[Turkish]

7 minutes ago, DT said:

Hasenhuttl: “The difference is in & around the box, & this is the difference between these two teams at the moment. When we have the ball in the box we have two players there & they have five players there. This is why they score three goals & we don’t.” #saintsfc [bbc]
 

not a clue 

We are great apart from defending and scoring, yes?

[Teddeer]

9 minutes ago, DT said:

Hasenhuttl: “The difference is in & around the box, & this is the difference between these two teams at the moment. When we have the ball in the box we have two players there & they have five players there. This is why they score three goals & we don’t.” #saintsfc [bbc]
 

not a clue 

Well Ralph, you're the coach on millions of pounds a year so over to you on that one.

[S-Clarke]

6 minutes ago, DT said:

Hasenhuttl: “Between the two boxes, it looks quite organised, and on the ball - okay. But the decisive parts in the game are not there, and this is the reason why we don’t win a game at the moment.” #saintsfc [bbc]
 

why don’t you bloody work on it then you imbecile 

Basically we're rubbish at football.

[Teddeer]

7 minutes ago, DT said:

Hasenhuttl: “Between the two boxes, it looks quite organised, and on the ball - okay. But the decisive parts in the game are not there, and this is the reason why we don’t win a game at the moment.” #saintsfc [bbc]
 

why don’t you bloody work on it then you imbecile 

Open your playbook Ralph...you wrote it...surely the answer is in there somewhere.