Ralph Hasenhuttl

[Turkish]

47 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Indeed. It’s a guaranteed way to success. Years ago an unwise old man always used to talk about Alex Ferguson and say that “it’s an easy job and anyone can do it, all he’s got to do is spend money”.

Yep, even Alan Pardew could do what Fergie did. If Man United did start to struggle then they'd just spend £200m.

You can knock me out vertically on the floor at what's happened since.

Edited 27 April, 2022 by Turkish

[Bad Wolf]

16 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

How'd did you come to that conclusion? 

• Did a good job at Bournemouth. No one's denying that.
• Gets linked with about 3 jobs, affirms interest in all of them, especially Palace which he basically begged to join
• No bugger wants him so comes out and 'commits his future' to Bournemouth and says how he was never leaving and how much he loves the club etc
• 3 days later, goes to Burnley
• Spectacularly fails 
• Returns to Bournemouth whom, in his absence have continued to improve massively
• Gets promoted (good achievement)
• Last season in the PL spends ridiculous cash and gets relegated with one of the worst defences ever
• Publicly implies he's waiting for Ralph to get sacked so he can walk in and take over because he's a shoe in
• Goes to Newcastle, spends their biggest ever transfer budget and hey presto they're doing well

 

He isn't a terrible manager by any means but his "rags to riches" story is nothing like the media portray it and he's an utter cretin in 'real life'. Don't buy his Mr Nice Guy persona because that's another one of his frauds.

[AlexLaw76]

15 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

• Did a good job at Bournemouth. No one's denying that.
• Gets linked with about 3 jobs, affirms interest in all of them, especially Palace which he basically begged to join
• No bugger wants him so comes out and 'commits his future' to Bournemouth and says how he was never leaving and how much he loves the club etc
• 3 days later, goes to Burnley
• Spectacularly fails 
• Returns to Bournemouth whom, in his absence have continued to improve massively
• Gets promoted (good achievement)
• Last season in the PL spends ridiculous cash and gets relegated with one of the worst defences ever
• Publicly implies he's waiting for Ralph to get sacked so he can walk in and take over because he's a shoe in
• Goes to Newcastle, spends their biggest ever transfer budget and hey presto they're doing well

 

He isn't a terrible manager by any means but his "rags to riches" story is nothing like the media portray it and he's an utter cretin in 'real life'. Don't buy his Mr Nice Guy persona because that's another one of his frauds.

Nearly every single manager fails at some point.  Most do so on their way up as well as the fall from grace.

Howe has been outstanding for Newcastle

Edited 27 April, 2022 by AlexLaw76

[Dman]

28 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Yep, even Alan Pardew could do what Fergie did. If Man United did start to struggle then they'd just spend £200m.

You can know me out vertically on the floor at what's happened since.

Only if those players signed are young, hungry and therefore guaranteed to improve. 
 

Or Chris Wood. 

Edited 27 April, 2022 by Dman

[Bad Wolf]

13 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Nearly every single manager fails at some point.  Most do so on their way up as well as the fall from grace.

Howe has been outstanding for Newcastle

Yes, every manager fails but it should still be taken into account when considering his managerial history. Big no thank you from me.

He's done the job I'd have expected any competent manager to do, which he is. Again, not saying he's terrible. Just not the Messiah that the media make him out to be.

[Dman]

6 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

Yes, every manager fails but it should still be taken into account when considering his managerial history. Big no thank you from me.

He's done the job I'd have expected any competent manager to do, which he is. Again, not saying he's terrible. Just not the Messiah that the media make him out to be.

Poch took over us after he was sacked for being bottom of the league with Espanyol. 

He’s about to get the boot from PSG as well. 

He’s Never won anything of note and somehow managed to come second in a 1 horse race in France… and that ignoring the league they threw away at tottenham. 
 

Assume you’d group him as a competent manager as well. 

Edited 27 April, 2022 by Dman

[Turkish]

2 minutes ago, Dman said:

Poch took over us after he was sacked for being bottom of the league with Espanyol. 

He’s about to get the boot from PSG as well. 

He’s Never won anything of note and somehow managed to come second in a 2 horse race in France… and that ignoring the league they threw away at tottenham. 
 

Assume you’d group him as a competent manager as well. 

If he’s gets the boot at PSG we’d be the only job he hasn’t got sacked from. Yet some make out he’s the second coming 

[nta786]

I like Howe but I think being English means that Ralph has a higher ceiling.

By that, I mean I feel like Ralph could probably get the gig again at a big top 4/top 6 German club other than Dortmund/Bayern, but can't say the same for Howe.

Sadly English managers are held in lower esteem. Despite what Howe is achieving, he'll never manage the likes of Man City/Liverpool/Chelsea/Utd.

At best I think Arsenal or Spurs.

[cloggy saint]

1 hour ago, Bad Wolf said:

No we didn't. He's an utter fraud of a manager and right nasty piece of work. I'd genuinely rather bring back Harry Redknapp than have that smarmy little b4astard anywhere near our club.

Why is he a nasty piece of work?

[aintforever]

51 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

• Returns to Bournemouth whom, in his absence have continued to improve massively

That's just not true though is it. When Howe left Bournemouth for Burnley they were one point behind us in 4th place in League 1. The following season they finished 11th and when he took over for Groves the season after they were near the bottom in October and Howe got them promoted that season.

Edited 27 April, 2022 by aintforever

[Smirking_Saint]

3 hours ago, Saint Garrett said:

JWP has got to be £100m bracket now, especially given Rice is being talked about £150m. Which is obscene btw. 

I wouldn’t accept £60m for him, no chance. 

Rice is valued at 150m (they won't get that) as he is genuinely one of the T4 or 5 DM's in world football right now, is English, and is likely the only one anywhere near available

JWP is very good but he is nowhere near worth 100m thats absolutely laughable, if he goes it will be around the 50-70m mark and that is mainly because of his value to us but set pieces aside he really isn't any better than a significant number of CMs throughout Europe

[Smirking_Saint]

1 hour ago, cloggy saint said:

Why is he a nasty piece of work?

Im not even sure he was a fraud, he failed at Burnley but ultimately did well at both of his stints with Bournemouth, in the main, and yes his tenure at Newcastle can be disected about the fact that he has spent 90m but he hasn't 'only' got them clear of a relegation battle, he has completely transformed them

[Ted Bates Statue]

3 hours ago, The Kraken said:

You’d certainly be mad to say he’s done anything other than a great job of turning them round. I don’t think he’ll stay at Newcastle in the medium to long term but their form of late has been excellent.

 

They have been incredible since January, apart from the loss to Cambridge. On that basis I think Howe has done enough to  take the next step and earn himself an interview with us.

Of course he will have to answer to stiff questioning from the board as when Saints show top 5 form for twelve fucking months on a relative shoestring it doesn't mean a thing, so it still remains to be seen as to whether he can do more than achieve the coveted 9th place trophy that most mid-table sides dream of.

[Toussaint]

4 hours ago, Bad Wolf said:

• Did a good job at Bournemouth. No one's denying that.
• Gets linked with about 3 jobs, affirms interest in all of them, especially Palace which he basically begged to join
• No bugger wants him so comes out and 'commits his future' to Bournemouth and says how he was never leaving and how much he loves the club etc
• 3 days later, goes to Burnley
• Spectacularly fails 
• Returns to Bournemouth whom, in his absence have continued to improve massively
• Gets promoted (good achievement)
• Last season in the PL spends ridiculous cash and gets relegated with one of the worst defences ever
• Publicly implies he's waiting for Ralph to get sacked so he can walk in and take over because he's a shoe in
• Goes to Newcastle, spends their biggest ever transfer budget and hey presto they're doing well

 

He isn't a terrible manager by any means but his "rags to riches" story is nothing like the media portray it and he's an utter cretin in 'real life'. Don't buy his Mr Nice Guy persona because that's another one of his frauds.

None of the points you make justify your character assassination. Did he not have his 3 best players absent for most of the relegation season?

He seems like a decent bloke to me, and a pretty good manager to boot, but what would I know?

[igsey]

I know how much you lot like xG stats...

Of the "Other 14" in the PL, we've got one of the worst xG to actual goals ratio in the league, with 6 fewer foals scored than we "should" have scored. Brighton and Norwich are the only teams with a larger negative score, at 8 and 9 respectively.

[manji]

Howes a cunt. One example , earlier in the season when we had the really bad patch. He started turning up at St Mary’s leaked stories the press he was going there as a shoe in for Ralph. 
He very nearly fucked Celtic over by telling them he wanted to go there. Kept them waiting for over month . He eventually bottled it. Leaving Celtic very little time to get Ange just before the season started. He is loathed up there.

[Wade Garrett]

15 minutes ago, manji said:

Howes a cunt. One example , earlier in the season when we had the really bad patch. He started turning up at St Mary’s leaked stories the press he was going there as a shoe in for Ralph. 
He very nearly fucked Celtic over by telling them he wanted to go there. Kept them waiting for over month . He eventually bottled it. Leaving Celtic very little time to get Ange just before the season started. He is loathed up there.

Had a massive chuckle reading this.

[DT]

I see our Ralph didn’t get the Austria job. The other one did. 

[aintforever]

19 hours ago, manji said:

Howes a cunt. One example , earlier in the season when we had the really bad patch. He started turning up at St Mary’s leaked stories the press he was going there as a shoe in for Ralph. 
He very nearly fucked Celtic over by telling them he wanted to go there. Kept them waiting for over month . He eventually bottled it. Leaving Celtic very little time to get Ange just before the season started. He is loathed up there.

It's almost as if he's free to choose what job he takes.

[Katalinic]

19 hours ago, manji said:

Howes a cunt. One example , earlier in the season when we had the really bad patch. He started turning up at St Mary’s leaked stories the press he was going there as a shoe in for Ralph. 
He very nearly fucked Celtic over by telling them he wanted to go there. Kept them waiting for over month . He eventually bottled it. Leaving Celtic very little time to get Ange just before the season started. He is loathed up there.

He was approached by the club as Ralph's potential replacement had the poor start had continued. So not really surprising that he was a regular at St Mary's at the time.

[cloggy saint]

19 hours ago, manji said:

He very nearly fucked Celtic over by telling them he wanted to go there. Kept them waiting for over month . He eventually bottled it. Leaving Celtic very little time to get Ange just before the season started. He is loathed up there.

Or in other words, he turned them down. Bottled it? 

Edited 29 April, 2022 by cloggy saint

[manji]

13 minutes ago, cloggy saint said:

Or in other words, he turned them down. Bottled it? 

He kept them waiting, again his press cronies continually rehashing the story the Celtic was his dream team. He made it appear he was joking them. The Celts stopped looking further afield. Then changed his mind suddenly no fawning interviews. They hate him.

[manji]

45 minutes ago, Katalinic said:

He was approached by the club as Ralph's potential replacement had the poor start had continued. So not really surprising that he was a regular at St Mary's at the time.

Wasn’t approached by the club. His press cronies made it appear so. He’s a cunt.

[cloggy saint]

HATE! CUNT! CUNT! HATE HATE!  All a bit juvenile really isn't it?

[Katalinic]

11 minutes ago, manji said:

Wasn’t approached by the club. His press cronies made it appear so. He’s a cunt.

He absolutely was.

[Østerrike]

On 29/04/2022 at 14:34, DT said:

I see our Ralph didn’t get the Austria job. The other one did. 

lol Austrian soccer assoc has basically no money, probably able to pay around EUR 500.000  a year

[Østerrike]

2 minutes ago, Østerrike said:

lol Austrian soccer assoc has basically no money, probably able to pay around EUR 500.000  a year

maybe Rangnick gets 700,000-1 mill, but thats it.

 

so i do not think they even tried hard to catch Ralph..

 

Update: Ok, i just checked, kinda surprised but Rangnick gets 1,5 Mill a year for training the Austrian squad

(and 9 Mill for training ManU from Dec- May oh well)

Edited 30 April, 2022 by Østerrike

[Saints foreva]

Ralph out. 

[AlexLaw76]

Ralph

 

please walk away in the summer!

[Lighthouse]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Ralph

 

please walk away in the summer!

Who do you think is going to get a tune out of this bunch of no hopers? Half of our team wouldn’t get a game for anyone else in this league, bar maybe Norwich and Watford.

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Lighthouse said:

Who do you think is going to get a tune out of this bunch of no hopers? Half of our team wouldn’t get a game for anyone else in this league, bar maybe Norwich and Watford.

Not for me to say. But time for something different!

[Lallana's Left Peg]

3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Who do you think is going to get a tune out of this bunch of no hopers? Half of our team wouldn’t get a game for anyone else in this league, bar maybe Norwich and Watford.

 

Exactly this.  No doubt Ralph gets things wrong but he's also working with some poor players for this level.

[Dman]

5 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Who do you think is going to get a tune out of this bunch of no hopers? Half of our team wouldn’t get a game for anyone else in this league, bar maybe Norwich and Watford.

Probably what Newcastle fans were saying about the likes of Joelinton etc. 

Of course his replacement might not be a success, but that shouldn’t be a reason to not look elsewhere. 
 

Same mistakes as last season, it’s a worrying trend. 

[AlexLaw76]

 

[Lighthouse]

13 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Not for me to say. But time for something different!

Right, so you have no idea you just want somebody to come in and do better with Long, Moi, Bednarek, Redmond and co.?

[Saints foreva]

2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

 

Fraud. Get him out. 

[Pilchards]

Just now, Saints foreva said:

Fraud. Get him out. 

We need a fresh start.

How can you stick with someone who is planning retirement.

 

[The Kraken]

3 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

We need a fresh start.

How can you stick with someone who is planning retirement.

 

This is a major concern for me, both in terms of attracting players and then motivating them.

[Chris cooper]

If forest Fail to get into prem .. I’d go for Steve cooper .. had a tremendous season .. forest were bottom 3 .. ripped up some trees at Swansea too 

[Pamplemousse]

Lots of knee jerk reactions here 

 

Think we need some perspective from where we were when he took over. And where we are now. Staying in the league an achievement until new ownership, which has happened. Think if there's no progress next season we need to make a change, but I reckon it'll come good.

 

Recent form of course unacceptable.

[pimpin4rizeal]

4 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Right, so you have no idea you just want somebody to come in and do better with Long, Moi, Bednarek, Redmond and co.?

But these are players Ralph has chosen to keep and give a ton of game time too, he chose to keep long over the likes of gabbi.. redmond and bednarek have been firm favs of his..

this is his side

[St.Jeweller]

9th when we took the lead, 15th at FT 🙄

[saint lard]

Next game against Brentford….wish Thomas Frank was in our dugout. Whatever the result is. 

[Lighthouse]

6 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

But these are players Ralph has chosen to keep and give a ton of game time too, he chose to keep long over the likes of gabbi.. redmond and bednarek have been firm favs of his..

this is his side

How’ve you figured that out? We kept them because it was cheap, we sold Gabbi because he didn’t fit in with our system but was good enough to get reasonable money from Italy.

[sydenhamssocks]

1 minute ago, Lighthouse said:

Right, so you have no idea you just want somebody to come in and do better with Long, Moi, Bednarek, Redmond and co.?

 

17 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Who do you think is going to get a tune out of this bunch of no hopers? Half of our team wouldn’t get a game for anyone else in this league, bar maybe Norwich and Watford.

Surely Ralph can’t be seen as ‘getting a tune’ out of our squad. His record is terrible. Over 80 points lost from winning positions since he took over. 20 odd of them in this season. 
7 home draws this season in which we were ahead in every one. 
and you know all the other stats , poorest run in club history  and 9 nils etc. 
as for the squad, of course it’s not the best but has shown a few positive performances. The manger has to shoulder the blame. 
if Ralph can’t get a tune out of this squad then he needs wholesale changes to a better more expensive squad. Which we can’t afford. He may well thrive if the quality of his players is better, but for now, it’s not. 
He’s cosied in with the fans and covered his back.  Time to go. He gave his best I suppose. 
 

[AlexLaw76]

25 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Right, so you have no idea you just want somebody to come in and do better with Long, Moi, Bednarek, Redmond and co.?

Yes,  That is how it works.  I can't recall a club hiring a manager on the recommendation of a message board.

When Hughes was up for the chop, no one mentioned Ralph then, so.......

[Sarisbury Saint]

26 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Right, so you have no idea you just want somebody to come in and do better with Long, Moi, Bednarek, Redmond and co.?

Maybe someone else wouldn’t have picked them.

[Dman]

21 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

Lots of knee jerk reactions here 

 

Think we need some perspective from where we were when he took over. And where we are now. Staying in the league an achievement until new ownership, which has happened. Think if there's no progress next season we need to make a change, but I reckon it'll come good.

 

Recent form of course unacceptable.

Recent form is exactly the same as it was this time last season, which makes its even more unacceptable. 

[Saints foreva]

1 minute ago, Dman said:

Recent form is exactly the same as it was this time last season, which makes its even more unacceptable. 

So kneejerk. 

[DT]

Hasenhuttl: “We didn't see a very good game today. The team that had a little bit better subs made the difference.” 
 

never his fault is it?