Ralph Hasenhuttl

[Holmes_and_Watson]

  On 06/10/2022 at 19:39, Turkish said:

Good luck in your new job at Amazon Ralph 😘

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There's a joke in there about at least Amazon can be counted on to deliver something, but I'm not making it. 🙂

[Fitzhugh Fella]

Been a bad week really. All this “Ralph on the brink” in the press is unhelpful. Either get rid or don’t. Now this ridiculous decision to penalise home fans in the Itchen tells me the leadership of the club are clueless when it comes to understanding or backing home supporters.  Going to St Mary’s in the last couple of years has been fairly depressing but we keep going. The club are treating their fans with disdain. They can afford that while Sky bankroll them but my advice is never forget the hand that will always feed you through rain and shine. 

[Pilchards]

  On 06/10/2022 at 19:48, Charlie Wayman said:

He looked rattled at today's press conference, no doubt he'd read the article as well.

Sad that he is such a lovely, respectful and principled guy. That part of it we will miss immensely. 

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Don’t be sorry as the bottom line is he has been paid well by the club and they have stuck by him through thick and thin.

Deep down Ralph knows he has failed and now its time for someone else too have a go.

Edited 6 October, 2022 by Pilchards

[Lighthouse]

  On 06/10/2022 at 20:05, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Been a bad week really. All this “Ralph on the brink” in the press is unhelpful. Either get rid or don’t.

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What? You’re the one who’s been ferociously talking up the idea of him being sacked, for several years. The club haven’t alluded to anything of the sort.

[Turkish]

  On 06/10/2022 at 20:57, Lighthouse said:

What? You’re the one who’s been ferociously talking up the idea of him being sacked, for several years. The club haven’t alluded to anything of the sort.

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Exactly. FF has been slagging off Ralph for years! Even responsible for a bizarre article in the media saying he’s regret selling Gallagher!

[Fitzhugh Fella]

  On 06/10/2022 at 21:08, Turkish said:

Exactly. FF has been slagging off Ralph for years! Even responsible for a bizarre article in the media saying he’s regret selling Gallagher!

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Well if what you say is true (which it’s not) it shows me to be a lot brighter than you. And please point me to the article you’ve mentioned. Your are a very obsessed person methinks 

[Turkish]

  On 06/10/2022 at 21:25, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Well if what you say is true (which it’s not) it shows me to be a lot brighter than you. And please point me to the article you’ve mentioned. Your are a very obsessed person methinks 

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How does that work then? You don’t like anyone. You moaned about all the owners, all the managers the only time you’ve said anything positive in all the times you’ve been posting on forums is when Krueger and Katrina agreed to let you sell your book in the club shop, for a few months they were the best thing since sliced bread before resorting to type complaining about everything. For someone that supposedly supports the club and have written some very good books about it it’s pretty amazing you rarely anything good to say about it!

[Andrew Watson]

  On 06/10/2022 at 21:48, Turkish said:

How does that work then? You don’t like anyone. You moaned about all the owners, all the managers the only time you’ve said anything positive in all the times you’ve been posting on forums is when Krueger and Katrina agreed to let you sell your book in the club shop, for a few months they were the best thing since sliced bread before resorting to type complaining about everything. For someone that supposedly supports the club and have written some very good books about it it’s pretty amazing you rarely anything good to say about it!

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Perhaps you should have a beer with Duncan then Turkish and find out like I did a few years back what a decent guy he really is and he did not moan on any of those occasions.

[Weston Super Saint]

  On 06/10/2022 at 20:27, Pilchards said:

Don’t be sorry as the bottom line is he has been paid well by the club and they have stuck by him through thick and thin.

Deep down Ralph knows he has failed and now its time for someone else too have a go.

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Define 'failure'.

If Ralph was set a target by the board / owners of Premier League survival each year, why would he 'know deep down he had failed'?  Surely he's achieved his target?

[egg]

  On 07/10/2022 at 05:49, Weston Super Saint said:

Define 'failure'.

If Ralph was set a target by the board / owners of Premier League survival each year, why would he 'know deep down he had failed'?  Surely he's achieved his target?

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It's more a case that he's taken us far as he can, it's gone stale, that he's dined out on his purple patch for long enough, that there's now a feeling of inevitability of relegation, so a change is needed.

[SNSUN]

 

This picture hangs in the Nostrano Lounge in Staines. I've had it in my phone gallery for ages but seeing as he's probably not here for much longer I thought I'd post it now. Lookalikey...?

[Fitzhugh Fella]

  On 06/10/2022 at 21:48, Turkish said:

How does that work then? You don’t like anyone. You moaned about all the owners, all the managers the only time you’ve said anything positive in all the times you’ve been posting on forums is when Krueger and Katrina agreed to let you sell your book in the club shop, for a few months they were the best thing since sliced bread before resorting to type complaining about everything. For someone that supposedly supports the club and have written some very good books about it it’s pretty amazing you rarely anything good to say about it!

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Oh yes I can bellyache along with the best and often use this forum to let off steam as a form of therapy (don’t we all?). But this is the first time I’ve been critical of SD. I think shutting a section of the ground because someone threw a paper cup or whatever to be an overreaction when better stewarding is surely the answer. 
I have wanted RH gone since last season and I am critical of the drip drip in the media. I feel for everyone’s sake the plug should be pulled now. 
And following on from what Andy said I would happily have a beer with you as I would love to know what makes you tick and often agree with you views (even occasionally smiling at your posts). This feud you have towards me is a bit baffling, but if that’s what you want there’s not much I can do except use my two posts a day to have my say. Luckily that means I can only get up your nose twice a day I guess.  

[skintsaint]

  On 07/10/2022 at 06:25, SNSUN said:

 

This picture hangs in the Nostrano Lounge in Staines. I've had it in my phone gallery for ages but seeing as he's probably not here for much longer I thought I'd post it now. Lookalikey...?

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Going to stick my neck out here and say that's a good likeness.

Edited 7 October, 2022 by skintsaint

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 06/10/2022 at 19:01, Weston Super Saint said:

More likely the double figure manager.

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I’d give him two fingers.

Edited 7 October, 2022 by Whitey Grandad
Stupid autocorrect

[Daft Kerplunk]

  On 07/10/2022 at 05:49, Weston Super Saint said:

Define 'failure'.

If Ralph was set a target by the board / owners of Premier League survival each year, why would he 'know deep down he had failed'?  Surely he's achieved his target?

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Saints apparently had a target to finish between 7th and 12th each season. By that measure, he has, and is failing. I suspect that there are many managers who would love to be paid £6 million a year for that. 

[egg]

  On 07/10/2022 at 07:48, Daft Kerplunk said:

Saints apparently had a target to finish between 7th and 12th each season. By that measure, he has, and is failing. I suspect that there are many managers who would love to be paid £6 million a year for that. 

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These "he's paid loads"comments irritate me. No professional likes to not meet targets, underperform, fail, receive criticism, get the sack, etc. Getting paid loads won't make Ralph feel happy about the past year and his inevitable sacking. 

[JRM]

  On 07/10/2022 at 07:54, egg said:

These "he's paid loads"comments irritate me. No professional likes to not meet targets, underperform, fail, receive criticism, get the sack, etc. Getting paid loads won't make Ralph feel happy about the past year and his inevitable sacking. 

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How much would it cost us to pay up his contract now? 

[Doctoroncall]

  On 07/10/2022 at 07:19, Whitey Grandad said:

I’d give him two fingers.

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Is that post lubed?

[Daft Kerplunk]

  On 07/10/2022 at 07:54, egg said:

These "he's paid loads"comments irritate me. No professional likes to not meet targets, underperform, fail, receive criticism, get the sack, etc. Getting paid loads won't make Ralph feel happy about the past year and his inevitable sacking. 

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Who said anything about him enjoying failing? He’s just not good enough at one of the areas he needs to be excellent at for the money: man management. The board are the ones making the mistake. 

[stevy777_x]

  On 07/10/2022 at 07:48, Daft Kerplunk said:

Saints apparently had a target to finish between 7th and 12th each season. By that measure, he has, and is failing. I suspect that there are many managers who would love to be paid £6 million a year for that. 

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Apparently is that your own invention?

[Saint86]

  On 07/10/2022 at 08:44, stevy777_x said:

Apparently is that your own invention?

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What do you mean Steve? Are you implying that a finish of 7th place in each of the last 3-4 seasons was in some way unrealistic? 🤣

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

  On 07/10/2022 at 07:54, egg said:

These "he's paid loads"comments irritate me. No professional likes to not meet targets, underperform, fail, receive criticism, get the sack, etc. Getting paid loads won't make Ralph feel happy about the past year and his inevitable sacking. 

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I'm sure being a multi millionaire will ease the experience somewhat though?

[Turkish]

  On 07/10/2022 at 06:57, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Oh yes I can bellyache along with the best and often use this forum to let off steam as a form of therapy (don’t we all?). But this is the first time I’ve been critical of SD. I think shutting a section of the ground because someone threw a paper cup or whatever to be an overreaction when better stewarding is surely the answer. 
I have wanted RH gone since last season and I am critical of the drip drip in the media. I feel for everyone’s sake the plug should be pulled now. 
And following on from what Andy said I would happily have a beer with you as I would love to know what makes you tick and often agree with you views (even occasionally smiling at your posts). This feud you have towards me is a bit baffling, but if that’s what you want there’s not much I can do except use my two posts a day to have my say. Luckily that means I can only get up your nose twice a day I guess.  

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Some very fair points and I agree with you that shutting block 1 is pathetic. I saw a video of the Everton fans the other side of the netting on Saturday, groups of them giving it large and goading saints fans, every single steward had their back to them staring at the saints fans. The answer is simple, increase the divide and reduce tickets to away fans not punish saints fans for behaviour of both, but I get the impression this is the plan all along to make sure the itchen north is full of “suitable types” that won’t react it away fans are in the corporate areas.

I also agree with you of the dripping to the media, it’s in bad taste if it is someone inside the club or if it’s not and it’s a bitter player or staff then that’s pretty childish too, either way we both agree Ralph’s time here is coming to an end. However I’ve always felt that you turned on him once it because clear sam Gallagher didn’t feature in his plans, I get it, I’d be the same and there is nothing wrong with that. 
 

I don’t have an agenda against you and you’ve given as good as you get in the past, only recently you made a completely unprovoked dig at me because I was in the home end for the away game at Leeds for example. Anyway I’ll probably have to pass on the offer of a pint as i live in Yorkshire now and don’t get back to Southampton very often, don’t think friends and family would be to happy if I said I couldn’t see them on a rare visit as I’m meeting someone off saintsweb to settle our difference 🤣

[Daft Kerplunk]

  On 07/10/2022 at 08:44, stevy777_x said:

Apparently is that your own invention?

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Ask Martin Semmens 😎

[Bad Wolf]

  On 06/10/2022 at 19:49, Holmes_and_Watson said:

There's a joke in there about at least Amazon can be counted on to deliver something, but I'm not making it. 🙂

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Yeah I was thinking along the lines of "box delivery" but it doesn't really work when we have one of the bets set piece specialists on the planet.

[Saint NL]

Cooper just signed a new contract at Forest. That's a weird one.

[cloggy saint]

  On 07/10/2022 at 10:45, Bad Wolf said:

 we have one of the bets set piece specialists on the planet.

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Exciting stuff, who have we signed??

[Wurzel]

  On 07/10/2022 at 07:48, Daft Kerplunk said:

Saints apparently had a target to finish between 7th and 12th each season. By that measure, he has, and is failing. I suspect that there are many managers who would love to be paid £6 million a year for that. 

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Why would anyone have a target of between 7th & 12th, and not just top 12. If he'd scraped top 6 would have been sacked for over-acheiving? Or did the club specify that we don't want any of that European nonesense again?

[Bad Wolf]

BBC Radio Solent Sport - "The club told me last night that there is no truth in the newspaper story." - BBC Sounds

[Miltonaggro]

  On 07/10/2022 at 06:25, SNSUN said:

 

This picture hangs in the Nostrano Lounge in Staines. I've had it in my phone gallery for ages but seeing as he's probably not here for much longer I thought I'd post it now. Lookalikey...?

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When Ralph get's the Spanish Archer on Monday the club will be selling the bottom half of this beautiful portrait for £69.99 to appease the remaining members of the fanbase in the spirit of Ralph'shampton   

[manji]

  On 06/10/2022 at 21:25, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Well if what you say is true (which it’s not) it shows me to be a lot brighter than you. And please point me to the article you’ve mentioned. Your are a very obsessed person methinks 

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Obsessed wtf ! You havnt got over being made “ Club Historian “ . I came across your Twitter feed the other day and you describe yourself as “ club historian “ 🙄

[Toussaint]

  On 07/10/2022 at 13:06, Bad Wolf said:

BBC Radio Solent Sport - "The club told me last night that there is no truth in the newspaper story." - BBC Sounds

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Just listened in full. For those who feel that the club is being run shabbily at the moment, this will give further oxygen to those thoughts, especially given Adam's reasoned speculation as to the source of the leaks and also the  roles and responsibilities of certain people no one seemed to be aware of.  I have also had an uneasy feeling lately, I'm not sure replacing Ralph is going to solve that much. I haven't been a fan of his for a while,  but I increasingly feel he wasn't backed in the way he wanted to be in the transfer market, others are running the football show and he just has to "make it work".  A bit like Ali G's hoverboard.  

 

 

thanks for posting.

[Dusic]

  On 07/10/2022 at 14:27, Toussaint said:

Just listened in full. For those who feel that the club is being run shabbily at the moment, this will give further oxygen to those thoughts, especially given Adam's reasoned speculation as to the source of the leaks and also the  roles and responsibilities of certain people no one seemed to be aware of.  I have also had an uneasy feeling lately, I'm not sure replacing Ralph is going to solve that much. I haven't been a fan of his for a while,  but I increasingly feel he wasn't backed in the way he wanted to be in the transfer market, others are running the football show and he just has to "make it work".  A bit like Ali G's hoverboard.  

 

 

thanks for posting.

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So essentially Blackmore saying the story might have come from Sport Republic because the article refences them and their role in the club.

IMO thats a bit of a stretch. The point of the article is to say RH is going to be fired.

Why would SR feed that to the DT? Whats the point?

More likely its just padding out the article with contextual information about Saints, some of which is accurate and some less so - as is often the case with press articles.

[Christophenburg]

  On 07/10/2022 at 13:06, Bad Wolf said:

BBC Radio Solent Sport - "The club told me last night that there is no truth in the newspaper story." - BBC Sounds

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Got to say this felt a little unprofessional from Adam. He continues to make excuses for Ralph, trusts his 'contacts' word for it that the article wasn't brief, speculates to an insane degree that the owners are briefing against the manager, then ends up admitting a defeat to Man City puts him under further pressure. Adam's friendship with Hassenhuttl is colouring his ability to scrutinise him

[Toussaint]

  On 07/10/2022 at 14:58, Dusic said:

So essentially Blackmore saying the story might have come from Sport Republic because the article refences them and their role in the club.

IMO thats a bit of a stretch. The point of the article is to say RH is going to be fired.

Why would SR feed that to the DT? Whats the point?

More likely its just padding out the article with contextual information about Saints, some of which is accurate and some less so - as is often the case with press articles.

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Your interpretation could be correct, but it’s equally possible that Adam Blackmore knows more than he is letting on. There maybe a power struggle going on behind the scenes?

The articles did have the appearance of coming from inside the club. What I am surprised at is there has been no effort from within the club to dampen things down.

[egg]

  On 07/10/2022 at 14:27, Toussaint said:

Just listened in full. For those who feel that the club is being run shabbily at the moment, this will give further oxygen to those thoughts, especially given Adam's reasoned speculation as to the source of the leaks and also the  roles and responsibilities of certain people no one seemed to be aware of.  I have also had an uneasy feeling lately, I'm not sure replacing Ralph is going to solve that much. I haven't been a fan of his for a while,  but I increasingly feel he wasn't backed in the way he wanted to be in the transfer market, others are running the football show and he just has to "make it work".  A bit like Ali G's hoverboard.  

 

 

thanks for posting.

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I heard it live yesterday. He even said that people could read between his lines. It was a clear insinuation that SR had leaked it. Intriguing what he was saying about the SR guys running the football side of the business and the transfer deals, not Semmens. Strange goings on for sure. 

[SaintsLoyal]

  On 06/10/2022 at 20:05, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Been a bad week really. All this “Ralph on the brink” in the press is unhelpful. Either get rid or don’t. Now this ridiculous decision to penalise home fans in the Itchen tells me the leadership of the club are clueless when it comes to understanding or backing home supporters.  Going to St Mary’s in the last couple of years has been fairly depressing but we keep going. The club are treating their fans with disdain. They can afford that while Sky bankroll them but my advice is never forget the hand that will always feed you through rain and shine. 

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Um especially when i believe that the two newspapers were clearly briefed on the evening before the following days media gathering.

I would have certainly liked to have seen a similar removal of seat availability in the away section corner and not just the home end.

[AlexLaw76]

  On 07/10/2022 at 15:33, Christophenburg said:

Got to say this felt a little unprofessional from Adam. He continues to make excuses for Ralph, trusts his 'contacts' word for it that the article wasn't brief, speculates to an insane degree that the owners are briefing against the manager, then ends up admitting a defeat to Man City puts him under further pressure. Adam's friendship with Hassenhuttl is colouring his ability to scrutinise him

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totally agree.  Given the hilariously over the top introduction by Adam for Ralph at the fans forum, it is hardly a surprise.

Genuine question, has Adam ever done a pice like that questioning Ralph and his utterly bizarre tactical decisions?

IF SR are moving the goalposts and taking more control, I do not blame them.  Those running the club day-to-day appear to be at the end of their cycle.

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[John D]

If SR are starting to take a greater role then that is their right.  Can't be a a power struggle as they own the club.  If Semmens is being marginalised then I suspect he will follow Ralph out the door. 

[swannymere]

  On 05/10/2022 at 13:47, Charlie Wayman said:

Oh dear. What is life without hope? Cheer up for goodness sake!

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 I'm perfectly happy, i know that we'll never will hit the heights on a regular basis, i'm happy to plod along in the Premier League taking a few scalps a season. I think the unhappy ones are the ones who think huge success is just a manager or owner change away.

[Lord Duckhunter]

  On 07/10/2022 at 17:16, swannymere said:

 I think the unhappy ones are the ones who think huge success is just a manager or owner change away.

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Nobody thinks that, nobody at all. 

[Chris cooper]

  On 07/10/2022 at 17:16, swannymere said:

 I'm perfectly happy, i know that we'll never will hit the heights on a regular basis, i'm happy to plod along in the Premier League taking a few scalps a season. I think the unhappy ones are the ones who think huge success is just a manager or owner change away.

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How old are you Swanny ? If you don’t mind me asking ?

[Harry_SFC]

  On 07/10/2022 at 17:15, John D said:

If SR are starting to take a greater role then that is their right.  Can't be a a power struggle as they own the club.  If Semmens is being marginalised then I suspect he will follow Ralph out the door. 

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Exactly. Plus Rasmus Ankersen did really well at Brentford. I did like Semmens initially but I've become unsure after the last couple of fan forums. Certainly wouldn't lose any sleep if he and Toby Steele left. 

[sadoldgit]

  On 07/10/2022 at 17:16, swannymere said:

 I'm perfectly happy, i know that we'll never will hit the heights on a regular basis, i'm happy to plod along in the Premier League taking a few scalps a season. I think the unhappy ones are the ones who think huge success is just a manager or owner change away.

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I totally agree with you up to a point. I don’t think that some people think that “huge success” is just a manager away, but I do think that many have unrealistic expectations for a club of our resources and size. Being an average, mid table club for us season after season with good cup runs is not an unreasonable expectation. To be playing regularly in what we are told is the best league in the world is no mean feat for an average sized club. There are plenty of clubs like us who have been languishing in the lower leagues for years.

[saintscottofthenortham]

  On 07/10/2022 at 15:33, Christophenburg said:

Got to say this felt a little unprofessional from Adam. He continues to make excuses for Ralph, trusts his 'contacts' word for it that the article wasn't brief, speculates to an insane degree that the owners are briefing against the manager, then ends up admitting a defeat to Man City puts him under further pressure. Adam's friendship with Hassenhuttl is colouring his ability to scrutinise him

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Exactly this. It has been a massive issue for Blackmore for some time. He point blank refuses to ask the genuinely difficult questions that a plethora of fans have been asking for a long long time. The way he suggested prior to the fans forum that he indeed WAS going to ask the difficult questions, only to ask leaded questions in a way that laid the foundation to make a mockery of any suggestion he has done anything that could possibly be criticised, was the nail in the coffin for me. Used to love listening to Radio Solent on matchdays, but the Blackmore/Ralph love-in has really tainted it for me. 

[Badger]

  On 07/10/2022 at 15:51, egg said:

I heard it live yesterday. He even said that people could read between his lines. It was a clear insinuation that SR had leaked it. Intriguing what he was saying about the SR guys running the football side of the business and the transfer deals, not Semmens. Strange goings on for sure. 

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  On 07/10/2022 at 17:15, John D said:

If SR are starting to take a greater role then that is their right.  Can't be a a power struggle as they own the club.  If Semmens is being marginalised then I suspect he will follow Ralph out the door. 

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The only reason to leak a story here would be to try guaging the response to see if acceptable to the fanbase. If so I'm not sure it reflects well on the 'decision maker' not having confidence in their own conviction. 

 

[Badger]

  On 07/10/2022 at 18:08, Harry_SFC said:

Exactly. Plus Rasmus Ankersen did really well at Brentford. I did like Semmens initially but I've become unsure after the last couple of fan forums. Certainly wouldn't lose any sleep if he and Toby Steele left. 

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Have said several times that a large part of Brentford's success has been down to recruitment (of players and manager). Ankersen, like Frank, is only part of that. 

[egg]

  On 07/10/2022 at 17:15, John D said:

If SR are starting to take a greater role then that is their right.  Can't be a a power struggle as they own the club.  If Semmens is being marginalised then I suspect he will follow Ralph out the door. 

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That's how I read it. Feels like it's being set up for a complete change. 

[gallaghert366@yahoo.com]

  On 07/10/2022 at 17:53, Chris cooper said:

How old are you Swanny ? If you don’t mind me asking ?

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What is the point of your question  - please?

[Kenilworthy]

  On 07/10/2022 at 18:38, sadoldgit said:

I totally agree with you up to a point. I don’t think that some people think that “huge success” is just a manager away, but I do think that many have unrealistic expectations for a club of our resources and size. Being an average, mid table club for us season after season with good cup runs is not an unreasonable expectation. To be playing regularly in what we are told is the best league in the world is no mean feat for an average sized club. There are plenty of clubs like us who have been languishing in the lower leagues for years.

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Totally agree with what you say. But where the club has let us down is in often being too timid to seize the few good opportunities that come our way, with the exception of 1976. In the 84 semi we froze when we were clearly a much better side than Everton. In the 2003 FA Cup final we showed no ambition but not to get a heavy defeat. The no-show in the 2018 semi was scandalous and while I can forgive Ralph the two 9-0s I cannot forgive the 2021 semi.