Lighthouse Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 WTF was that first half team Ralph?! Is the back four just a pre-match sweepstake these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 I hope those that desperately wanted a South Coast derby in the cup are still happy with what they wished for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Ralph cost us that game Next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 In the end the record books will show 3-1 Bournemouth win. They were utter ****e second half but our finishing was worse. As for the end... I think the players had switched off and thought it was over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Ridiculous team selection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Summed up in 5 words... Bournemouth defended well; we didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Woeful performance. We love handing teams goals. Massive reality check for the people who think this is a top half team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bensfcno1 Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Absolute garbage. How no one at the club can see that we have not got CB’s that are good enough for this league is a ajokeZ Ralph has to take responsibility also for not playing Cedric and Bertrand in their natural positions for the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 25 shots for us. Only 6 on target. 6 for them, 3 on target, all goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Weird team selection, seemed like an egotistical decision by Ralph which is worrying. Second half better but too much to do. McCarthy in goal from now on please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Sort the back line out and start Bertrand..... Embarrassing stuff trying to be to clever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Infuriating. There are clear and repeated flaws in how we perform. I don't believe we are in danger this season, but my goodness, there is such scope for improvement and for the first time Ralph must answer some difficult questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Are we allowed to now ask if the manager is as good as his claimed reputation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 We best not okay a weird load of players out of position on Tuesday. I'm not sure I'll be able to forgive that so easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Scoreline doesn’t reflect the game. Didn’t deserve to lose, especially not 3-1 imo, but I suppose when you defend like that and waste that many chances, you won’t win many games.. Vestergaard is a shambles. Utter sh!te. Not convinced by Gunn, at all. Ralph has to take a lot of the blame. Cedric good. Romeu - class (other than the first goal) Boufal decent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Why do I bother? Watching Saints is just too damn infuriating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Callum Wilson cost £3million, Josh King was a free. Che Adams is nowhere near their level and I don't think he ever will be. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Utterly disgusting performance. I never want to see Vestergaard in a Saints shirt again. Cedric puts in a slightly better performance than usual and suddenly he's amazing despite said performance still just being average. Bertrand came on and did nothing and we wonder why Ralph doesn't like him, PEH and JWP were both diabolical. Romeo, Boufal, Redmond all very good. Adams did okay but got no service. If we smash P*mpey then I'll happily look back at this and laugh but for now, not good at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Ralph cost us that game Next Not for the first time either. Makes some very strange selections. If Puel or MoPe set us up like that this place would be going ape****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Embarrassing. When will he start Ings instead of Adams? At least he's proven at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Would that have happened if Yoshida had played? Instead of the lump? No. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Infuriating. There are clear and repeated flaws in how we perform. I don't believe we are in danger this season, but my goodness, there is such scope for improvement and for the first time Ralph must answer some difficult questions. Which three teams do you think we'll finish well clear of? I suspect we'll stay up but I doubt it'll be comfortable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Ralph cost us that game You 100% sure about that...? Has been difficult to guage your opinion of the manager all evening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Scoreline doesn’t reflect the game. Didn’t deserve to lose, especially not 3-1 imo, but I suppose when you defend like that and waste that many chances, you won’t win many games.. Vestergaard is a shambles. Utter sh!te. Not convinced by Gunn, at all. Ralph has to take a lot of the blame. Cedric good. Romeu - class (other than the first goal) Boufal decent "We didn't deserve to lose" well they scored one and we scored three. So yes we did. That's literally how the game works. Do you claim that someone didn't deserve to win a game of Monpoly because you rolled more doubles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Weird team selection, seemed like an egotistical decision by Ralph which is worrying. Second half better but too much to do. McCarthy in goal from now on please. to be fair hes been pretty decent apart from the howler tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 I reckon a tailor's dummy would do a better job in defence than Vestergaard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Are we allowed to now ask if the manager is as good as his claimed reputation ? Also picked Stephens for countless games. Now blind to Vestergaard's lack of any quality whatsoever Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Which three teams do you think we'll finish well clear of? I suspect we'll stay up but I doubt it'll be comfortable Villa, Sheff Utd, Wolves, Palace and Watford all look worse than us right now. I agree with your second sentence but we aren’t one of the worst three teams in the league. In short, we aren’t as bad as we were tonight and we aren’t as good as the team which has won three consecutive away games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 We were never scoring two. Ralph needs to stop throwing the 1st half, our attack can't survive any deficit. Hard run of games now, in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Which three teams do you think we'll finish well clear of? I suspect we'll stay up but I doubt it'll be comfortable I'm going on instinct rather then logic here. But, I firmly believe we are better then: Villa, Norwich, Sheff Utd, Watford, Newcastle. I think we will be ok. Just, ok. But, I want to see the major flaws in us addressed. Static defending and an unclinical shame that has cursed us since Koeman left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bensfcno1 Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Decision making, ideas in the final third and ability to always play the ball behind teammates when on the attack just don’t help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkeith Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Much better in the 2nd half when we played with a proper left back. The first half was awful, but we wre much more of a team in the 2nd. Bad selection by Ralph. Bournemouth took there chances in the 1st and then hung on in the second. I hope the lesson has been learned that , just because you have picked up 7 points from 3 games without a left back does not mean that you would not have picked up 9 with Bertrand playing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 InstagramGK Gunn. Utter crap. ‘Learning mate, top GK’. Forster MK II Vestergaard. Just why. Clearly awful and always has been. Bertrand and Yoshida on bench. Why. Stupid team selection and out of position players. Why. Danish Prutton. Cr4p, always has been. Claps loads and pumps his first a lot, therefore top player. Apparently. JWP, one of our own. Top player. Apparently. Utterly avoidable loss. Fair play to Boufal though, him and Redmond the only real bright sparks. Anyone who says Boufal doesn’t work hard is mental. Still, we’ll probably end up booing him soon for misplacing a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 I reckon a tailor's dummy would do a better job in defence than Vestergaard. we've had ages to get a quality proven defender in too & did nothing, we will pay the price ultimately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 I know I keep saying it but I wish we had the 2014 Saints team heading down Fratton on Tuesday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Sorry Ralph, that one's on you. Odd team selection & subs. Yes JWP scored but dreadful in open play & on dead balls. Adams off the wrong sub. Could go on & probably will in the car. Boufal, Cedric did well. Must do better on Thursday. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 (edited) Well that was spectacularly 1 star in just about every conceivable aspect wasn't it? No excuse for that ludicrous defensive line up in the first half - how can you possibly justify starting with a cb at rb and an rb at lb with our only recognised lb on the bench. Ridiculous, but RH is owed massive amounts of slack from last season so let it go I suppose. As for the attack I think we have major problems. It's early days for Adams but he looks seriously OOHD. It's not early days for Ings and he looks........ Edited 20 September, 2019 by stknowle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 I’m a big Ralph fan but he seems to be trying to be too ‘clever’ with some of his teams selections which remind of the Burley days of square pegs in round holes and Puel team tombola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Manager had a shocker. Defensively disorganised to the point of negligence. Whatever his problem with Bertrand is, he needs to be told to get over himself - his ego is only hurting us. Horrific lack of quality going forward. Adams works hard but doesn't get into scoring positions. Pedestrian midfield bypassed again and again on the counter attack - and we've got no other options but those three statues. Still think this will be another grim season of scraping by. And if the manager's tactics and selections continue to be as erratic as they have been since Rohl left, we might not get away with it again. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 The positives If you are going to give away a comedy goal do it when you have lost and injury time is up. Romeu & hojberg absolutely d9minated them. Boufal scared them. Bertrand looked good. The bad Vestergaard Our shooting Our strikers Redmond brought back early and injured The really bad danso Gunn for Wilson goal The awful Ralph. Fortunately he’s got a little credit in the bank as that was worse than our hopeless previous couple of managers in terms of set up. Made even worse when he sorted it at ht and we bossed large parts of the 2nd half For me that was most important game of 3 coming up, a chance to set up a good season where we finish above them. Better win the less important cup game against a poor league one side then as I don’t see us getting anything against spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydney_saint Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 A lot of players get chastised here, and mostly unfairly. But wanna mention two players that go a bit under the radar Ings- his cameo was okay and nearly set up a goal. But he always looks so... average. Has he ever really proven he is premier league quality? As far as I can see he's only had once decent season in the top flight for Burnley with 11 goals. Which is okay but even Ashley Barnes has managed that. And even those goals were boosted by a purple patch of 5 in 6. I strongly suspect he will be out on loan this time next year. I want it to work out but see no signs. Hojberg- Runs around alot and beats his chest to make the fans purr. But sometimes I watch him closely and wonder what he actually does? He doesn't seem to win the ball back that much and his passing is atrocious. Even when he hits his man it is nearly always behind him. Not by much, but just that slight more that stifles the attack leaving the wide player needing to turn back in rather than hit the space. I feel he is the elephant in the room when it comes to our midfield. When he's on fire he's incredible. But that could go for many of our players and has so many down matches. That said I'm not too bothered. We ain't going down but we ain't achieving anything either. Life as a middlish table club. No point stressing too much Sent from my CPH1835 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc oli Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Bednarek very good- even at the end he was given no choice by Gunn. Midfield good at winning the ball back. Jwp could have had a hat trick. Boufal very good, rarely wasted the ball, decent efforts on goal. Ludicrous defensive line up first half. Adams could do with resting. Gunn weak. Vest gash. Bournemouth just more clinical than us, not much between the sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valesaint Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Embarrassing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Scoreline doesn’t reflect the game. Didn’t deserve to lose, especially not 3-1 imo, but I suppose when you defend like that and waste that many chances, you won’t win many games.. Vestergaard is a shambles. Utter sh!te. Not convinced by Gunn, at all. Ralph has to take a lot of the blame. Cedric good. Romeu - class (other than the first goal) Boufal decent Top GK mate. Got designer stubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Lost it in the first half. Boufal looked good again, and Cedric. Che Adams is never ever going to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 That is all on Ralph for his baffling starting lineup. It was the same last week at Sheff Utd, but lucky for us their attacking players are terrible. Bertrand is the best defender in the squad. If he's fit enough to play an entire half then why isn't he on from t he start? Yoshida is the best CB in the squad, but despite playing really well last week he gets left out in favour of our worst player on the pitch at Bramall Lane. With the pace of the Bournemouth attackers, that was never going to end well. I'll cut Danso some slack because it seems he hasn't even been allowed to play a single half in one position yet, but he was woeful at RB. How the hell did it take 45 minutes and a 2-goal deficit (lucky it wasn't 3) for Ralph to identify that. We won the ball in their half very well and dominated the possession, but sadly every one of our decent chances fell to JWP who seems to be utterly incapable of hitting a moving ball properly. Boufal had a couple of decent long range efforts but couldn't get either of them far enough away from the keeper. Our best player tonight by far. As for that gift at the end. Gunn needs to have a word with himself after that. Woeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Lose to Portsmouth and there will be calls for Ralph to go, mark my words. And although I won't agree with them, I won't be able to muster the willpower to argue with them. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Are we allowed to now ask if the manager is as good as his claimed reputation ?Yes. Until the next time we have a good game, upon which all will be forgotten until the next time we lose. And repeat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 Felt so sorry for Bednarek having deal with that sh1t alongside him every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 20 September, 2019 Share Posted 20 September, 2019 I want to give credit at least two players. Boufal is a man reborn, work-rate of a player unbecoming of this defense fearless when taking on and totally committed to winning things back. Romeu also did his shift superbly, he is not in there to score or be the last line... Frankly, he should not have been given responsibility to mark their best threat from a set piece, he is there to break things up and he did that. The team around them however? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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