norwaysaint Posted 9 September, 2019 Share Posted 9 September, 2019 Which year do you rate as Saints best for players coming in? Up to you if you factor in who left the same year and what we got for them. I brought this up because for some reason I found myself looking at 98-99 and seeing that we brought in: Beattie Pahars Marsden Kachloul who all had a major impact on an improved team over the next few years. as well as the slightly less successful Howells Hughes Ripley which at least showed ambition. At the same time we sold Kevin Davies for a, then, whopping 7.5m after only 25 appearances and even managed to get over a million for a clapped out Carlton Palmer. All this under the leadership of Dave Jones. What other seasons stand out for you? Probably a few during our rebirth from league one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 9 September, 2019 Share Posted 9 September, 2019 Which year do you rate as Saints best for players coming in? Up to you if you factor in who left the same year and what we got for them. I brought this up because for some reason I found myself looking at 98-99 and seeing that we brought in: Beattie Pahars Marsden Kachloul who all had a major impact on an improved team over the next few years. as well as the slightly less successful Howells Hughes Ripley which at least showed ambition. At the same time we sold Kevin Davies for a, then, whopping 7.5m after only 25 appearances and even managed to get over a million for a clapped out Carlton Palmer. All this under the leadership of Dave Jones. What other seasons stand out for you? Probably a few during our rebirth from league one. The Poch-out, Koeman-in metamorphosis season. Remarkable who we sold & who we replaced them with & actually got better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 9 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 9 September, 2019 In 2008-9 our transfers in nembered four: Tommy Forecast Antony Pulis Lee Molyneux Ryan Smith So the book is closed on "worst transfer season". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 9 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 9 September, 2019 The Poch-out, Koeman-in metamorphosis season. Remarkable who we sold & who we replaced them with & actually got better. In: Pelle Mane Long Tadic Betrand Forster Alderweireld (loan) Out: Lambert Lallana Shaw Lovren Chambers Cork Do Prado Barnard Such a huge change, and as you say, led to our most succesful team of the era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 9 September, 2019 Share Posted 9 September, 2019 2014 was also my first thought when I saw the thread title. We really moved up a gear that summer. In 2008-9 our transfers in nembered four: Tommy Forecast Antony Pulis Lee Molyneux Ryan Smith So the book is closed on "worst transfer season". I’ll see that and raise you 2007. We p*ssed away a load of money we didn’t have on crap like Euell and Safri when we should have been trying to trim the wage bill. Not only did our actions eventually put us in administration, we also completely ignored the gaping holes in our defence and started the season losing 4-1 at home to a Jamie Scowcroft hat trick. At least 2008 was born out of poverty and necessity, even if they were crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 9 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 9 September, 2019 2014 was also my first thought when I saw the thread title. We really moved up a gear that summer. I’ll see that and raise you 2007. We p*ssed away a load of money we didn’t have on crap like Euell and Safri when we should have been trying to trim the wage bill. Not only did our actions eventually put us in administration, we also completely ignored the gaping holes in our defence and started the season losing 4-1 at home to a Jamie Scowcroft hat trick. At least 2008 was born out of poverty and necessity, even if they were crap. At first glance, you have a point, but then one remembers that Tommy Forecast was signed instead of keeping the sell on clause for Gareth Bale. I think this makes Tommy Forecast one of the most expensive signings we've ever made. Tommy Forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 9 September, 2019 Share Posted 9 September, 2019 At first glance, you have a point, but then one remembers that Tommy Forecast was signed instead of keeping the sell on clause for Gareth Bale. I think this makes Tommy Forecast one of the most expensive signings we've ever made. Tommy Forecast. It was Tommy Forecast plus a chunk of cash we needed to keep going. It may seem ridiculous now but we didn't really have a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 September, 2019 Share Posted 9 September, 2019 Surely the first season in league one? We were utterly dreadful the few seasons before that and Pardew rebuilt the team in the two windows signing players who would be key to our rise. Lambert and Fonte obviously two out the best best signings we’ve ever made but Hammond, Harding, Barnard, Jaidi and even Puncheon all played a part in our promotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted 9 September, 2019 Share Posted 9 September, 2019 What about 1980-81? Convincing Keegan to sign was probably the most impressive transfer feat in our history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 9 September, 2019 Share Posted 9 September, 2019 Hands down for 2014-15. Alderweireld and Mané on deadline day turned out to be the icing on the cake. Great summer. The summer before promised a lot with Lovren, Wanyama and Osvaldo but the latter was a nut. I have a soft spot for 96-97 under Souness. Even though they didn’t achieve much as a team, I liked Lundekvam, Berkovic, Ostenstadt, Van Gobbel and ultimately Evans saving the day. The less said about Dia the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 9 September, 2019 Share Posted 9 September, 2019 Surely the first season in league one? We were utterly dreadful the few seasons before that and Pardew rebuilt the team in the two windows signing players who would be key to our rise. Lambert and Fonte obviously two out the best best signings we’ve ever made but Hammond, Harding, Barnard, Jaidi and even Puncheon all played a part in our promotions. Plus even the loans were good - Antonio and Waigo. Connolly was an astute free transfer. 2014 obviously was stellar, 2015 with VVD not too bad. Agree with those saying 96-7 as well, that team underperformed for the personnel we had but Souness signed some excellent players and it was exciting to watch at times. 98-99 a mixed bag with Howells and Hughes, selling Davies for silly money but then getting Marian on deadline day. Worst are 2007 as Lighthouse mentions, Burley's CM obsession went way too far, 2016/18/18 until Les sacked, and 92-93 on par with Les given Shearer was replaced by Speedie and Dixon, plus signing the likes of Steve 'hoof' Wood. David Lee might have been that season, and Groves. The only saving grace that season was Super Ken. Dread to think how much paying a lot of those contracts off cost the club when Lawrie and Bally returned. Speedie/Dixon and Carrillo/Pellegrino are probably the joint transfer season nadirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 9 September, 2019 Share Posted 9 September, 2019 Both Souness and Jones oversaw excellent recruitment but disappointing league positions, if i remember rightly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 9 September, 2019 Share Posted 9 September, 2019 What about 1980-81? Convincing Keegan to sign was probably the most impressive transfer feat in our history. Are we still the only English club to sign a current European Player of the Year ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 9 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 9 September, 2019 I addition to comments abouy 09/10, looking at wiki I see that within a few weeks we sold McGoldrick for one million and signed Lambert for the same price. That has to be a great bit of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 9 September, 2019 Share Posted 9 September, 2019 Convincing Keegan to sign was probably the most impressive transfer feat in history* *slight correction Ever. Anywhere. By anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 9 September, 2019 Share Posted 9 September, 2019 The season we signed Ricky Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 9 September, 2019 Share Posted 9 September, 2019 The first Poch summer when we signed Wanyama, Lovren and Osvaldo was a game changer for us - and we didnt lose anyone. Lovren was essentially taking Hooiveld's place and is probably the biggest upgrade of a starting player since being back in the PL (Shaw for Fox maybe the other). Wanyama also hit the ground running and those two massively improved us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 9 September, 2019 Share Posted 9 September, 2019 What about 1980-81? Convincing Keegan to sign was probably the most impressive transfer feat in our history. 100% agree. Jaw dropped to floor. Stayed there or a few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 9 September, 2019 Share Posted 9 September, 2019 What about 1980-81? Convincing Keegan to sign was probably the most impressive transfer feat in our history. It would mean more if we had kept him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 10 September, 2019 Share Posted 10 September, 2019 What about 1980-81? Convincing Keegan to sign was probably the most impressive transfer feat in our history. Drove past the Potters Heron the other day with Mrs JBS - and joked they should have a Blue Plaque on the wall stating that one of biggest Football signing coups was revealed on this spot on the 11th February 1980. On the Kevin Davies sale to Blackburn, I vaguely recall reading something from Dave Jones about this. It was along the lines of being sat in his office and a call from Blackburn being put through to him, Blackburn saying they wanted to buy him and were offering £7.5m for him, Jones said he nearly fell off his chair on hearing the amount, Blackburn thought he had hung up due to the silence on the Southampton end of the line, but Jones was just running the madness through his head, that there was this lad who played a season for Saints let alone the Premier League (I always thought under the circumstances us getting Davies from Chesterfield was a bit of blinding business - getting 10 times what we paid for him even more so) Jones had commented that Davies still had a lot to learn but if someone was stupid enough to spend that kind of money on an unfinished player then he had better say yes before they changed their mind. Turned out to be a cracking bit of business as we got some oik called James Beattie as part of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 10 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 10 September, 2019 On the Kevin Davies sale to Blackburn, I vaguely recall reading something from Dave Jones about this. It was along the lines of being sat in his office and a call from Blackburn being put through to him, Blackburn saying they wanted to buy him and were offering £7.5m for him, Jones said he nearly fell off his chair on hearing the amount, Blackburn thought he had hung up due to the silence on the Southampton end of the line, but Jones was just running the madness through his head, that there was this lad who played a season for Saints let alone the Premier League (I always thought under the circumstances us getting Davies from Chesterfield was a bit of blinding business - getting 10 times what we paid for him even more so) Jones had commented that Davies still had a lot to learn but if someone was stupid enough to spend that kind of money on an unfinished player then he had better say yes before they changed their mind. Turned out to be a cracking bit of business as we got some oik called James Beattie as part of the deal. I wonder if any player has ever had such a mark up, based on such little reason, in so short a time? 750000 is about what we paid. He had 25 games and scored 9 goals, nothing outstanding apart from one really nice one. Then off again for ten times the price! They really had too much money in those days. I think the whole valuation nonsense really put too much pressure on him too and it was years until he really found his way again, at Bolton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Troy Posted 10 September, 2019 Share Posted 10 September, 2019 I wonder if any player has ever had such a mark up, based on such little reason, in so short a time? 750000 is about what we paid. He had 25 games and scored 9 goals, nothing outstanding apart from one really nice one. Then off again for ten times the price! They really had too much money in those days. I think the whole valuation nonsense really put too much pressure on him too and it was years until he really found his way again, at Bolton. i cant remember it exactly but i feel like he may have scored a couple of winners and also possibly a couple of winners against bigger clubs. Sometimes maybe 9 goals seem a lot more when they have a value to them. Also the mazy dribble and a scrappy winner against utd maybe? showed a couple of types of goal he could score. Not saying it was a good move but maybe there was a bit there to tempt them (also my memory could be rubbish!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 10 September, 2019 Share Posted 10 September, 2019 i cant remember it exactly but i feel like he may have scored a couple of winners and also possibly a couple of winners against bigger clubs. Sometimes maybe 9 goals seem a lot more when they have a value to them. Also the mazy dribble and a scrappy winner against utd maybe? showed a couple of types of goal he could score. Not saying it was a good move but maybe there was a bit there to tempt them (also my memory could be rubbish!) It was Everton... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjkR91QEjFg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Troy Posted 10 September, 2019 Share Posted 10 September, 2019 It was Everton... sorry - wasnt clear - i remember the everton goal - was thinking he scored a coupkle of scrappy winners and poss one in a 1-0 against man u - there was one where the ball came in pretty much along the line and he forced imself in front of defence to bundle it in - in my head it was a 1-0 winner againt utd but could be complete nonsense! either way was thinking maybe he showed a couple of types of goal he could score and that increased his value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 10 September, 2019 Share Posted 10 September, 2019 (edited) sorry - wasnt clear - i remember the everton goal - was thinking he scored a coupkle of scrappy winners and poss one in a 1-0 against man u - there was one where the ball came in pretty much along the line and he forced imself in front of defence to bundle it in - in my head it was a 1-0 winner againt utd but could be complete nonsense! either way was thinking maybe he showed a couple of types of goal he could score and that increased his value KD scored the only goal in the third minute on 19 Jan 1998, in a 1-0 home win against Man Utd. 17:06 in this video Edited 10 September, 2019 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 10 September, 2019 Share Posted 10 September, 2019 The season we signed Ricky Lambert This. Not because we had the best saints team ever that season (clearly we were in league 1) but because it signalled us really turning a corner we went from being on our knees to signing Lambert, the divisions top scorer, for big money, then signing Fonte in Jan for an even higher fee and we also signed the divisions second highest scorer (at the time) in Lee Barnard in Jan. It was just such a good feeling to be the big boys for a while buying up the best players we could for big money (at the level we were playing at). In fact Fonte and Lambert are still in top eight of all time most expensive buys in league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 10 September, 2019 Share Posted 10 September, 2019 I agree about the first league one summer when it felt like nothing would even be any good again. But i'd forgotten how big and how successful the Poch-Koeman transition was. Based on what they contributed over the next couple of seasons (not what had gone before when Rickie was obviously a God).... Pelle better than Lambert Mane better than Lallana Bertrand better than Shaw Toby better than Lovren Tadic better than Corky Long better than Guly Forster bigger than Barnard (although he was short AND f*cking 'ard Which just leaves Callum Chambers and the less said the better. In: Pelle Mane Long Tadic Betrand Forster Alderweireld (loan) Out: Lambert Lallana Shaw Lovren Chambers Cork Do Prado Barnard Such a huge change, and as you say, led to our most succesful team of the era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Troy Posted 11 September, 2019 Share Posted 11 September, 2019 KD scored the only goal in the third minute on 19 Jan 1998, in a 1-0 home win against Man Utd. 17:06 in this video cheers - thats a good example but not the one ive got in my head! cant have been man u then! cheers though as sort of half right so brain mostly still in place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 11 September, 2019 Share Posted 11 September, 2019 Wonder what Tommy Forecast is doing now ? Managed only 6 League 2 appearances in his whole career. and bet he was richly rewarded too. The ******. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 12 September, 2019 Share Posted 12 September, 2019 cheers - thats a good example but not the one ive got in my head! cant have been man u then! cheers though as sort of half right so brain mostly still in place! He scored in a 1-0 win at home against Chelsea after Xmas - also scored earlier in season at home to Liverpool in 1-1 draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 14 September, 2019 Share Posted 14 September, 2019 He scored in a 1-0 win at home against Chelsea after Xmas - also scored earlier in season at home to Liverpool in 1-1 draw. His first goal for us was 1-0 win in a home, evening match v Palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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