Turkish Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 Who would you prefer to play today...? £5m Bednarek £18m Vestergaard Matthew I’m not going to keep repeating myself I’ve already addressed this point too. Obviously there are exceptions and sometimes you can get a bargain abut the better the player the more they cost more. That’s why Mbeppe cost £140m and josh sims is out on loan. And no I’m not saying saints should go and spend £40m on a random foreigner we’ve never heard of.
Matthew Le God Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 Matthew I’m not going to keep repeating myself I’ve already addressed this point too. Obviously there are exceptions and sometimes you can get a bargain abut the better the player the more they cost more. That’s why Mbeppe cost £140m and josh sims is out on loan. And no I’m not saying saints should go and spend £40m on a random foreigner we’ve never heard of. There aren't a few exceptions, there are lots!
egg Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 Quality costs money, that’s why better players cost more. It’s not hard. Carillo is not better than players costing less. Vestergaard is not better than Bednarek. You call that a bad point, and than try to highlight your ridiculous point that more money always gets a better player by highlighting that cos Ronaldo cost more than Paul Moody that he's a better player!! Put your feet up mate.
Turkish Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 There aren't a few exceptions, there are lots! There are far more examples of players costing More and being better. It’s an absolute ridiculous to try and prove otherwise.
egg Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 There are far more examples of players costing More and being better. It’s an absolute ridiculous to try and prove otherwise. But you point the likes of Bournemouth and Villa and Brighton of clubs who's spending we should match. They don't have better than we have - would they really give Liverpool the game we have them in teh first half? The fact is that whilst they've spent more, they haven't bought better. The issue is buying wisely, not necessarily spending more.
Turkish Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 Carillo is not better than players costing less. Vestergaard is not better than Bednarek. You call that a bad point, and than try to highlight your ridiculous point that more money always gets a better player by highlighting that cos Ronaldo cost more than Paul Moody that he's a better player!! Put your feet up mate. Because I’m still absolutely amazed you’re trying to argue that as a general rule the better the player is the more they cost. Obviously there will be some exceptions and we can all point to individual signings that cost a lot and haven’t worked and cheap ones that have.
Gordon Mockles Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 So, now the January window is over and our January defensive strengthening of the full back areas and general defence is complete, how do people think we did? Do you think we did well and delivered what the club alluded to? I use use the term “alluded” because, according to club apologists on here, any manager intending of signing a player has to say I promise and do a Boy Scout salute towards camera otherwise he can plead diminished responsibility. I’m very curious to know if the club apologists on here class it as a good window or how they will spin some positivity on our market trader club? Can they bear to suggest any criticism towards their beloved club? I hope our defence is deemed stronger by those apologists. Draughting into a midfielder to play at RB today facing the league leaders. I was going to suggest how Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain or Wijnaldum would fare down the left but seems the counter attacks of Liverpool have answered that question, despite going against the run of play.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 So, now the January window is over and our January defensive strengthening of the full back areas and general defence is complete, how do people think we did? Do you think we did well and delivered what the club alluded to? I use use the term “alluded” because, according to club apologists on here, any manager intending of signing a player has to say I promise and do a Boy Scout salute towards camera otherwise he can plead diminished responsibility. I’m very curious to know if the club apologists on here class it as a good window or how they will spin some positivity on our market trader club? Can they bear to suggest any criticism towards their beloved club? I hope our defence is deemed stronger by those apologists. Draughting into a midfielder to play at RB today facing the league leaders. I was going to suggest how Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain or Wijnaldum would fare down the left but seems the counter attacks of Liverpool have answered that question, despite going against the run of play. We are watching the game, perhaps you should try it
Gordon Mockles Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 We are watching the game, perhaps you should try it I asked a question, not for your advice on how to spend my spare time. Perhaps you should keep on topic, this is the January transfer window thread. If you have anything worthwhile to contribute, maybe shut up.
Gordon Mockles Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 I asked a question, not for your advice on how to spend my spare time. Perhaps you should :lol:keep on topic, this is the January transfer window thread. If you have anything worthwhile to contribute, maybe shut up. **haven't even. If you have something worthwhile, maybe shut up anyway if this is your barometer of judgements
Heisenberg Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 I asked a question, not for your advice on how to spend my spare time. Perhaps you should keep on topic, this is the January transfer window thread. If you have anything worthwhile to contribute, maybe shut up. Dont respond mate... how he gets away with this blatant winding up of the forum is beyond me... he is clearly a troll and the mods know it...
Katalinic Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 Dont respond mate... how he gets away with this blatant winding up of the forum is beyond me... he is clearly a troll and the mods know it... Irony at it's finest.
stevy777_x Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 Batman, Turkish, Gordon Mockles, Heisenberg and Mr X are the biggest troller on here
verlaine1979 Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 Who would you prefer to play today...? £5m Bednarek £18m Vestergaard The problem with our approach is that we've stopped taking a punt on players like Bednarek. The buy-to-eventually-sell approach requires speculating on players in a range of price brackets to spread the risk. Over the past couple of seasons we've reverted to one-in-one-out at the first team level, with no real investment in players outside that. Wolves' punt on the lad from Rochdale being a case in point.
Matthew Le God Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 The problem with our approach is that we've stopped taking a punt on players like Bednarek. The buy-to-eventually-sell approach requires speculating on players in a range of price brackets to spread the risk. Over the past couple of seasons we've reverted to one-in-one-out at the first team level, with no real investment in players outside that. Wolves' punt on the lad from Rochdale being a case in point. Not sure how you can do any differently as the Premier League restricts the number of players over 21 years old you can have to 25, plus in any case Ralph says he wants a smaller squad to keep things competitive.
verlaine1979 Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 Not sure how you can do any differently as the Premier League restricts the number of players over 21 years old you can have to 25, plus in any case Ralph says he wants a smaller squad to keep things competitive. I count five under-21s in our 25-man squad listed on the Premier League website. Plus, you do what PL clubs have always done when buying potential for the future - you loan them out which helps you find out quicker if they're likely to come good.
hypochondriac Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 Not sure how you can do any differently as the Premier League restricts the number of players over 21 years old you can have to 25, plus in any case Ralph says he wants a smaller squad to keep things competitive.It's not exactly competitive now. If we put out any sort of second string they'd be absolutely murdered.
Turkish Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 Batman, Turkish, Gordon Mockles, Heisenberg and Mr X are the biggest troller on here Parenting uncomfortable truths to club cheerleaders doesn’t make me a troll pal
Turkish Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 Parenting uncomfortable truths to club cheerleaders doesn’t make me a troll pal *presenting
Useful Idiot Posted 1 February, 2020 Posted 1 February, 2020 Personally, I'd say Heisenberg and Always_SFC are both trolls. Batman has a severe case of pessimism and negativity. Gordon Mockles seems very angry about things and enjoys typing about them in a long-winded fashion. I can't remember any of Mr X's posts, so if he's a troll he's pretty terrible at it. Turkish seems to just speak his mind in a pretty blunt fashion and occasionally bait Matthew Le God.
Gordon Mockles Posted 2 February, 2020 Posted 2 February, 2020 Batman, Turkish, Gordon Mockles, Heisenberg and Mr X are the biggest troller on here Ssshhh now. The adults are taking.
qwertyell Posted 5 February, 2020 Posted 5 February, 2020 Looks like we could be down to just two senior central midfielders for the rest of the season - with three CMs out on loan. So that's great planning... Wonder if there's any out of contract midfielders floating around. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk
Matthew Le God Posted 5 February, 2020 Posted 5 February, 2020 Looks like we could be down to just two senior central midfielders for the rest of the season - with three CMs out on loan. So that's great planning... Armstrong can play in central midfield. With Boufal/Djenepo and Redmond behind Ings & Long.
Dusic Posted 5 February, 2020 Posted 5 February, 2020 Armstrong can play in central midfield. With Boufal/Djenepo and Redmond behind Ings & Long.He can. But Im not sure he is overly suited to that. All his best attributes are attacking ones.
Saint_clark Posted 5 February, 2020 Posted 5 February, 2020 Armstrong can play in central midfield. With Boufal/Djenepo and Redmond behind Ings & Long.In the same way Yoshida or Danso could play right back. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk
hypochondriac Posted 5 February, 2020 Posted 5 February, 2020 Armstrong can play in central midfield. With Boufal/Djenepo and Redmond behind Ings & Long.I can also play Central midfield. Doesn't mean I should.
Turkish Posted 5 February, 2020 Posted 5 February, 2020 I can also play Central midfield. Doesn't mean I should. Don’t forget since the 2018 version you can retrain players for other positions so give him a couple of weeks coaching as a defensive midfielder and away we go.
skintsaint Posted 15 February, 2020 Posted 15 February, 2020 Don’t forget since the 2018 version you can retrain players for other positions so give him a couple of weeks coaching as a defensive midfielder and away we go.
SKD Posted 20 February, 2020 Posted 20 February, 2020 KWP out Saturday with a calf injury.... just to make this shower of sh!t window look even worse
Matthew Le God Posted 20 February, 2020 Posted 20 February, 2020 KWP out Saturday with a calf injury.... just to make this shower of sh!t window look even worse Why does it make the window look worse? How many right backs do you want in the squad?
Greenridge Posted 20 February, 2020 Posted 20 February, 2020 Why does it make the window look worse? How many right backs do you want in the squad? Two capable / fit ones. Not asking too much I guess.
Matthew Le God Posted 20 February, 2020 Posted 20 February, 2020 Two capable / fit ones. Not asking too much I guess. Walker-Peters & Valery are good enough quality Valery played for the under 23 last week and has been back for 3 weeks, Walker-Peters has a minor injury. What is the problem?
Greenridge Posted 20 February, 2020 Posted 20 February, 2020 Walker-Peters & Valery are good enough quality Valery played for the under 23 last week and has been back for 3 weeks, Walker-Peters has a minor injury. What is the problem? The problem is you obviously didn’t read the post you are replying to.
Matthew Le God Posted 20 February, 2020 Posted 20 February, 2020 The problem is you obviously didn’t read the post you are replying to. You said fit, but it is daft to think they'll both be fit all the time. Should we sign 5 right backs in case 4 of them might get injured?
Turkish Posted 20 February, 2020 Posted 20 February, 2020 You said fit, but it is daft to think they'll both be fit all the time. Should we sign 5 right backs in case 4 of them might get injured? It's not daft to think one of them might be fit all the time is it.
Matthew Le God Posted 20 February, 2020 Posted 20 February, 2020 It's not daft to think one of them might be fit all the time is it. Valery played a game last week
Turkish Posted 20 February, 2020 Posted 20 February, 2020 Valery played a game last week A Kids game. He's not played a first team game for months.
Matthew Le God Posted 20 February, 2020 Posted 20 February, 2020 A Kids game. He's not played a first team game for months. Under 23s is not kids
Greenridge Posted 20 February, 2020 Posted 20 February, 2020 Under 23s is not kids Metaphorically it is. It has little resemblance to the demands, speed and quality of the Premier League. He will not be match fit due to his prolonged absence but I’m sure you understand that.
SKD Posted 20 February, 2020 Posted 20 February, 2020 A Kids game. He's not played a first team game for months. And correct me if I’m wrong, but the last first team game he played was when we lost 9-0 and he was absolutely appalling. As, generally speaking, he has been every time he’s played in a back 4. Too early to talk about KWP yet, but didn’t set the world alight on Saturday. And to my original point, he (Valery) was out in January, we needed a right back on top of what we had, not a downgrade replacement. Now we have 0 fit right backs for at least 1 potentially 2 of our biggest games of the season
egg Posted 20 February, 2020 Posted 20 February, 2020 Two capable / fit ones. Not asking too much I guess. KWP and Valery were fit for the last game. KWP is now injured. Valery isn't.
Turkish Posted 20 February, 2020 Posted 20 February, 2020 And correct me if I’m wrong, but the last first team game he played was when we lost 9-0 and he was absolutely appalling. As, generally speaking, he has been every time he’s played in a back 4. Too early to talk about KWP yet, but didn’t set the world alight on Saturday. And to my original point, he (Valery) was out in January, we needed a right back on top of what we had, not a downgrade replacement. Now we have 0 fit right backs for at least 1 potentially 2 of our biggest games of the season I don’t remember him playing since and yes he was absolutely awful in that game. I still find it incredible that we went into the window saying we were going to strengthen the window on numerous occasions and came out of it weaker ?
Lighthouse Posted 20 February, 2020 Posted 20 February, 2020 The whole team was crap against Leicester, even if Valery was a stand out performer. He’s no worse than Martina, Pied, Richardson, Kenton, Targett, Fox or any of the other reserve full backs we’ve had over the years. Like it or not, he is about our level when it comes to cover in that position.
Greenridge Posted 20 February, 2020 Posted 20 February, 2020 KWP and Valery were fit for the last game. KWP is now injured. Valery isn't. No one said otherwise. We are talking about this weekend. But coming back to your irrelevant point. Being fit and being match fit are not one of the same. With their lack of any first team action neither were match fit last weekend and neither would have payed ahead of Cedric.
egg Posted 20 February, 2020 Posted 20 February, 2020 No one said otherwise. We are talking about this weekend. But coming back to your irrelevant point. Being fit and being match fit are not one of the same. With their lack of any first team action neither were match fit last weekend and neither would have payed ahead of Cedric. The point being made was that we're struggling for a RB cos we sold one injured RB, signed one injured one, and had one on his way back to fitness. Had we kept the injured Cedric we'd be no better off.
Baird of the land Posted 21 February, 2020 Posted 21 February, 2020 And correct me if I’m wrong, but the last first team game he played was when we lost 9-0 and he was absolutely appalling. As, generally speaking, he has been every time he’s played in a back 4. Too early to talk about KWP yet, but didn’t set the world alight on Saturday. And to my original point, he (Valery) was out in January, we needed a right back on top of what we had, not a downgrade replacement. Now we have 0 fit right backs for at least 1 potentially 2 of our biggest games of the season You are completely wrong. He played several times after that. One appalling game against Leicester doesn't equate to him generally having been poor.
woodsaint Posted 21 February, 2020 Posted 21 February, 2020 And correct me if I’m wrong, but the last first team game he played was when we lost 9-0 and he was absolutely appalling. As, generally speaking, he has been every time he’s played in a back 4. Too early to talk about KWP yet, but didn’t set the world alight on Saturday. And to my original point, he (Valery) was out in January, we needed a right back on top of what we had, not a downgrade replacement. Now we have 0 fit right backs for at least 1 potentially 2 of our biggest games of the season Who wasnt appalling against Leicester. The same Valery who was getting lavished with praise last season after a run of good performances including scoring against united and spurs, is now completely written off. Just sums this forum up
Batman Posted 22 February, 2020 Posted 22 February, 2020 KWP and Valery were fit for the last game. KWP is now injured. Valery isn't. Can’t be fit if missing out again? That, or not particularly good?
egg Posted 22 February, 2020 Posted 22 February, 2020 Can’t be fit if missing out again? That, or not particularly good? Eh? Valery is fit mate. On the bench.
Heisenberg Posted 22 February, 2020 Posted 22 February, 2020 Can’t be fit if missing out again? That, or not particularly good? Our "first choice RB" is being kept out of the RB position by one of our first choice CMs
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