BotleySaint Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Pathetic windowInstead of strengthening we've weakened the team. Utterly bizzare.
Crab Lungs Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Sooner Gao f***s off the better Could not agree more.
Manuel Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Couldn't be a more frustrating situation. Finally we have a manager who can take us places but an owner who wants to sit tight.
northam soul Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Can we now start the who are we selling in the summer thread. I do worry more about us for next season,the dross will still be here and we will surely sell anyone who’s worth a few bob. Then when we finally manage do last minute loans to get rid of the usual suspects we are left with what.
woodsaint Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Sheff U close to signing Sander Berge for £28m They've not had to sell anyone either Very good signing. A player we should have pursued
sadoldgit Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Instead of strengthening we've weakened the team. Utterly bizzare. That depends on whether or not KWP turns out to be better than Cedric.
whiteleySaint30 Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 That depends on whether or not KWP turns out to be better than Cedric. We needed cover and we finish with the same number(ralph suggested we needed 2). For that reason we are not stronger - FACT.
DuncanRG Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 If KWP plays well and the Cedric money puts us in a better position to strengthen properly in the summer then it's been a good window. It's quite the gamble though.
SNSUN Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 That depends on whether or not KWP turns out to be better than Cedric. This. Disappointing window but it’s barely weaker. The question is whether we’d have been out signing players had we still been in the relegation zone? The run of form seems to have changed the minds of the board as to our need for players. Maybe the £35 million the media quoted was the fund we had to fight off relegation but they’ve decided to keep it until Summer. Maybe wishful thinking, but we’ll find out come the summer.
DuncanRG Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 This. Disappointing window but it’s barely weaker. The question is whether we’d have been out signing players had we still been in the relegation zone? The run of form seems to have changed the minds of the board as to our need for players. Maybe the £35 million the media quoted was the fund we had to fight off relegation but they’ve decided to keep it until Summer. Maybe wishful thinking, but we’ll find out come the summer. Yeah, exactly this. Since we're pretty much safe I'd much rather spend that money in the summer.
Baird of the land Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 This. Disappointing window but it’s barely weaker. The question is whether we’d have been out signing players had we still been in the relegation zone? The run of form seems to have changed the minds of the board as to our need for players. Maybe the £35 million the media quoted was the fund we had to fight off relegation but they’ve decided to keep it until Summer. Maybe wishful thinking, but we’ll find out come the summer. Yeah I always assumed that 35m was gambling next year's tv money/parachute payment.
Master Bates Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Callum Slattery joins De Graafschap on loan.
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Who thinks Ralph will quit the end of the season, even if we stay up! This has got to have been the last straw for him, surely.
Batman Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Who thinks Ralph will quit the end of the season, even if we stay up! This has got to have been the last straw for him, surely. I dont think he will quit as such. I think his restraint from taking another job will be a solid as a soggy biscuit. More polite applause from the usual lot to follow
danjosaint Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Who thinks Ralph will quit the end of the season, even if we stay up! This has got to have been the last straw for him, surely. Yep
Roo1976 Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Who thinks Ralph will quit the end of the season, even if we stay up! This has got to have been the last straw for him, surely. Do you think we will end up looking for yet another manager ?
Baird of the land Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Who thinks Ralph will quit the end of the season, even if we stay up! This has got to have been the last straw for him, surely. I don't see him quitting. We're raising his profile as he hoped. Think odds are he will be here at start of next season
hypochondriac Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 There's not really a reason for him to quit now. One more season I reckon and if he can get us to mid table that's probably his lot.
DuncanRG Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Who thinks Ralph will quit the end of the season, even if we stay up! This has got to have been the last straw for him, surely. Not signing a second full-back in January is the last straw?
Master Bates Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Sorry I didnt see the post in the Slattery thread
Ewell Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Who thinks Ralph will quit the end of the season, even if we stay up! This has got to have been the last straw for him, surely. Nope, can't see it, the reason being is that he is not a bed wetting ninny like the majority on this thread. Whilst the window hasn't blown anyones socks off, its been a sensible approach, to a well managed club who are still paying the price for mistakes in previous windows. This mess will not be sorted out overnight, we still have a multitude of high earners contracted to us, loaned out for which we are still paying a huge part of their salaries, wake up people!
Turkish Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Moaning about not having money seems fairly pointless. We all know the money we've wasted and we're extremely limited until we shift players. We have 6 or 7 players not even in our squad who not only cost us a lot, but are on huge wages. Shift them all and we have room to do business again. The money wasted has only been money we’ve earned from sales, why do we have no money when we’ve made over £70m profit the last two years? We are meant to be a well run, self sustainable club yet we don’t seem to be able to survive without selling players.
stevy777_x Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Nope, can't see it, the reason being is that he is not a bed wetting ninny like the majority on this thread. Whilst the window hasn't blown anyones socks off, its been a sensible approach, to a well managed club who are still paying the price for mistakes in previous windows. This mess will not be sorted out overnight, we still have a multitude of high earners contracted to us, loaned out for which we are still paying a huge part of their salaries, wake up people! This 100%
Turkish Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Nope, can't see it, the reason being is that he is not a bed wetting ninny like the majority on this thread. Whilst the window hasn't blown anyones socks off, its been a sensible approach, to a well managed club who are still paying the price for mistakes in previous windows. This mess will not be sorted out overnight, we still have a multitude of high earners contracted to us, loaned out for which we are still paying a huge part of their salaries, wake up people! How can we be a well managed club when we can’t bring in any new players without selling any despite being the only club club in the division to make a profit from transfers? Can we please stop this we are well run bo11ocks. We obviously aren’t, or at least haven’t been.
egg Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Nope, can't see it, the reason being is that he is not a bed wetting ninny like the majority on this thread. Whilst the window hasn't blown anyones socks off, its been a sensible approach, to a well managed club who are still paying the price for mistakes in previous windows. This mess will not be sorted out overnight, we still have a multitude of high earners contracted to us, loaned out for which we are still paying a huge part of their salaries, wake up people! Absolutely this ?
Turkish Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Absolutely this ? It not factual. We aren’t a well run club, simple as that. Don’t believe the spin.
Baird of the land Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Nope, can't see it, the reason being is that he is not a bed wetting ninny like the majority on this thread. Whilst the window hasn't blown anyones socks off, its been a sensible approach, to a well managed club who are still paying the price for mistakes in previous windows. This mess will not be sorted out overnight, we still have a multitude of high earners contracted to us, loaned out for which we are still paying a huge part of their salaries, wake up people! Is there another club with 4 of its top 10 record transfers on loan. Another 3 regularly on the bench. That leaves 2 sold and only Danny ings who we bought this season in the regular starting xi
Turkish Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Is there another club with 4 of its top 10 record transfers on loan. Another 3 regularly on the bench. That leaves 2 sold and only Danny ings who we bought this season in the regular starting xi Just shut up and repeat the mantra mate We are a well run club We are a well run club We are a well run club Say it often enough you’ll believe it too
egg Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 It not factual. We aren’t a well run club, simple as that. Don’t believe the spin. We have been well run but made awful transfer decisions. If those transfers had come off they'd be no whingeing. Doing what people on here are calling for would make us badly run. We need to clear out the ****e and rebuild. It's not complicated.
Turkish Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 We have been well run but made awful transfer decisions. If those transfers had come off they'd be no whingeing. Doing what people on here are calling for would make us badly run. We need to clear out the ****e and rebuild. It's not complicated. We’ve made multiple failures in transfers, which means aren’t well run then.
egg Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 We’ve made multiple failures in transfers, which means aren’t well run then. Wrong. Making transfer decisions that haven't worked us does not alter the fact that we're well run strategically and financially. As a business the club works. Throwing money around whilst being stuck with a load of ****e players would be stupid.
Crab Lungs Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Wrong. Making transfer decisions that haven't worked us does not alter the fact that we're well run strategically and financially. As a business the club works. Throwing money around whilst being stuck with a load of ****e players would be stupid. We've done that already, which would suggest we're badly run.
Give it to Ron Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 I dont think he will quit as such. I think his restraint from taking another job will be a solid as a soggy biscuit. More polite applause from the usual lot to follow Well it wont be from you as you don’t go near it so how you have bloody cheek to criticise others Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
egg Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 We've done that already, which would suggest we're badly run. We're financially viable and sustainable. That, at its simplest, is a well run football business. If it isn't, tell me your definition of a well run football business.
Batman Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Well it wont be from you as you don’t go near it so how you have bloody cheek to criticise others Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk what the hell is your beef and your obsession on what I spend or not at the club?
Turkish Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Wrong. Making transfer decisions that haven't worked us does not alter the fact that we're well run strategically and financially. As a business the club works. Throwing money around whilst being stuck with a load of ****e players would be stupid. If your strategy is to stay up spending as little as possible then we’ve got it nailed.
Turkish Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 We've done that already, which would suggest we're badly run. Some people might argue that’s spending tens of millions on a poor recruitment policy over and over again might make us badly run and strategically flawed but this can’t be true because I’m just going to pretend that we’re well run.
Give it to Ron Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 what the hell is your beef and your obsession on what I spend or not at the club? Obsession don’t flatter yourself just think your constant criticism of people that go is a joke. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Batman Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Obsession don’t flatter yourself just think your constant criticism of people that go is a joke. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk where have I constantly criticised people who go?
saint77 Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 where have I constantly criticised people who go? You constantly criticise everything to do with our club nearly 30k of posts that are full of c-rap
Give it to Ron Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 We’ve made multiple failures in transfers, which means aren’t well run then. Were the culprits not sacked? We are stuffed at the moment and until the new structure is in place Croker , new recruitment guy and we know what division we are in 36 points quoted don’t think contracts will be discussed although I would bet some have been already. I don’t see us coming out of this well unless we take a big loss on Forster, Mo,Carillo and Hoedt Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Batman Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 You constantly criticise everything to do with our club nearly 30k of posts that are full of c-rap Not really the answer to the question thanks anyway. Just put me on ignore
Give it to Ron Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 where have I constantly criticised people who go? You even criticise people in the post above “politely clap” what do you expect them to do? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Batman Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 You even criticise people in the post above “politely clap” what do you expect them to do? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk If you take that literally and believe it is aimed solely at those sat at SMS, that is your problem.
Give it to Ron Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 If you take that literally and believe it is aimed solely at those sat at SMS, that is your problem. So answer the question what are they meant to do? We are in the crap due to the way it was run - new people are going to try and improve that do you think supporting them is the way ? Wilson/Krueger and Reed caused this mess along with Hunter the shambles will take years to fix. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
davefizzy14 Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Nope, can't see it, the reason being is that he is not a bed wetting ninny like the majority on this thread. Whilst the window hasn't blown anyones socks off, its been a sensible approach, to a well managed club who are still paying the price for mistakes in previous windows. This mess will not be sorted out overnight, we still have a multitude of high earners contracted to us, loaned out for which we are still paying a huge part of their salaries, wake up people! A sensible post! I agree with you Ewell
GDog07 Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Whilst we still have big earners on our books that we cannot yet shift, not spending on transfer fees and still trying to reduce our expenditure/wage bill is evident in some sense that financially we are being sensible. The club will definitely spend money in the summer, of course we will. But, whilst we are in a somewhat safer position than anyone envisaged us to be at this point in the season in the league, I’m more than happy not to see us throw another £20m at a deadline day flop. I’m optimistic that this is the summer (and it’s been a long time coming!) that we can finally cut ties with the many players (out on loan absolutely everywhere) we all want to see the back of and see us able to invest some of their transfer fees and freed up wages on players that can actually contribute to our first team squad. Like has been said above, it’s not that we haven’t tried to buy and strengthen in these past few windows. We HAVE and DID buy and in some case spent a small fortune on, unfortunately, utter garbage. We wouldn’t be complaining so bad if all our purchases from the last two or three windows all turned out to be Mane’s or Van Dijk’s. it’s just frustrating to see that we’ve spent so much and almost none of those signings are anywhere near our club, record signings playing elsewhere, leeching our wage budget and stunting our progression and there lies the blame with those in charge of recruitment these past few years. Money is only an issue because we have so many flops on loan, leeching away at our budget. Until we part company, hopefully for some sort of fee, we can’t look to acquire more expensive acquisitions. In that respect, I’m hoping that’s what we are doing now, cutting down our expense and waiting until the summer, offloading more of our deadwood out on loan before we buy, that would be my definition of well run.
stevy777_x Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Hope Vestergaard leaves and we get a fee, getting him off the wage bill will further give us the needed flexibility to renew our team this summer.
woodsaint Posted 30 January, 2020 Posted 30 January, 2020 Hope Vestergaard leaves and we get a fee, getting him off the wage bill will further give us the needed flexibility to renew our team this summer. We cant let both him and Danso go this month. Would leave us two injuries away from dipping into the u23 CB cover which would be madness
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